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From: timk@wynnds.xenitec.on.ca (Tim Kuehn)
Subject: Re: copyright status and future development of comp.archives
Organization: TDK Consulting Services
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1991 01:17:54 GMT
Message-ID: <1991Jun27.011754.2219@wynnds.xenitec.on.ca>
References: <EMV.91Jun25142055@bronte.aa.ox.com> <1991Jun26.190247.24577@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>

In article <1991Jun26.190247.24577@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> vk@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (vivek.kalra) writes:
>From article <EMV.91Jun25142055@bronte.aa.ox.com>,
>by emv@msen.com (Ed Vielmetti):
>> <excerpt> <msgid> OZ.91Jun25014110@ursa.ccs.yorku.ca </msgid>
>> oz@ursa.ccs.yorku.ca (Ozan Yigit) writes:
>> 
>>    Now, there is no need to bother even in the US, as per
>>    Geneva convention, all articles are implicitly copyright by their
>>    authors.  I think the implications of this for any "derivative
>>    works" such as the article contents of comp.archives is reasonably
>>    clear.
>> 
>> </excerpt> <para>
>> I don't think it's clear at all, and I resent your implications that
>> comp.archives is just a rebroadcasting service.  I add a significant
>> amount of value, not only in the selection and presentation of the
>> materials, but also in the verification and categorization of articles
>> as they come out.  ...

>But isn't that what happens in *every* moderated news group?  If not, just
>how is it different?  And if it does, why aren't all the other moderators
>doing, or at least talking about doing, what you propose?
>Vivek Kalra vk@honasa.att.com   

Most other moderators receive submissions to a news group, and decide 
whether it's appropriate and/or relevent to the operation of the newsgroup. 
They basically decides if the article is worth posting or not, and if not, 
reject the article and notify the submitter, with comments why it was 
rejected or what could be done to make the submission postable to the 
group. 

What Ed is doing in comp.archives is not recieving submissions "Please 
post this to comp.archives" but rather actively scanning MB of text daily 
to find announcements of archives sites and it's programs, then 
going out and verifying that 'yes - it's there', along with other relevent
information, and THEN posting it to comp.archives for the rest of us to 
see. 

So, in a sense, he's the one that's doing most of the work in keeping c.a 
going, not to mention adding a significant level of value by culling non-
relevent announcements, and tagging the announcements with information 
about the archive for everybody else to see. This is not only a non-
trivial effort, but it is what makes c.a different from other moderated 
newsgroups, which the first poster seems to be missing.

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