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From: scott@skypod.guild.org (Scott Campbell)
Subject: Re: Hayes SM 9600 V-series calls Intel 9600ex; sad results
Message-ID: <1991Jun10.110347.6827@skypod.guild.org>
Organization: Skypod Communications Inc., Toronto, Ontario
References: <1991Jun5.211611.7156@aero.org> <1991Jun6.062755.168@armon.rain.com> <1991Jun8.080524.16623@gn.ecn.purdue.edu>
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 91 11:03:47 GMT

In article <1991Jun8.080524.16623@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> psun@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Peter C. Sun) writes:
>In article <1991Jun6.062755.168@armon.rain.com> mehdi@armon.rain.com (Mehdi Attaran) writes:
>>
>>The Intel 9600EX modem is a V.32 modem with V.42/V.42bis and MNP 4/5
>>capabilities.  Your Hayes SM 9600 V-Series does not have V.32 capability, and
>>can only connect at 2400 baud to the Intel 9600EX (and other V.32 capable)
>>modems.  The Hayes SM 9600 V-Series can only connect at 9600 baud to other
>>Hayes SM 9600 V-Series modems. (That includes the Hayes Ultra)

>	So your saying that my Hayes SM V-series is nearly worthless?
>While it appears that you are quite correct, its something that I
>wish I had known before... Why do you suppose that Hayes (who have
>long been respected in the field of modem-ry) would release this
>loser?  I was in such hopes of getting my board up at 9600 baud!
>Oh well, theres always HST...

Generally, as far as I can tell.  I just finished dealing with Computerland
to get modems to connect a LAN in Toronto with a LAN in Ottawa.  First they
wanted us to use Ventel 2400 baud modems.

Sorry I said.  This is a long distance call we are talking about here. (Also
I have a ventel 2400 at home and I have yet to make it work satisfactorily/
I suppose if I got them to sell me a ventel, then I would get some
manuals :-))

The only high speed modems they sell are the Hayes SM 9600 V-series. They
wanted $975 each for them ($CA)

I personnally knew of the problem you mention (ie. noone else talks to them)
I couldn't get that out of the computerland rep.

I asked, what about telebit? sure, 2500s will run you about $CA1250.  But
we won't support them at all (computerland does our support - another
horror story for another day :-()

Ok. I said. are there any modems that are SORT of standard that you can sell
and will support.

How about a Hayes Ultra 96 for $CA1050.  And that's what we got.

For $75 more than the V-series.  That's how hayes keeps selling the v-series.
They get their dealers not to tell you about real modems.  For $75 I got
a modem that will talk to almost anyone intstead of noone.

sigh.

BTW. does anyone know how to connect a ultra 96 to a v-series. I can only
seem to connect at 2400 baud. (someone else I know has a v-series - he
has never made it connect to anyone ever as far as I know at anything
more than 2400) apparently v-series 9600 is called hayes ping-pong and
its half-duplex v.32.

scott

ps. before I sound like a hayes-basher, I have to say that the ultra96 seems
like a pretty good v.32 modem.  Lots of features.  





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