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From: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
Subject: Re: CDTV misleading???!? Air Mouse and things.
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1991 16:12:47 GMT

In article <THOMAS.91Jun7074740@capitol.capitol.com> thomas@capitol.capitol.com (Mark Thomas) writes:
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>[Note: edited for brevity]
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>[Also my poster is stupid. My address is thomas@capitol.com, NOT
>thomas@capitol.capitol.com as its listed above]
>
>In article <1991Jun6.005113.7848@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>
>es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes:
>
>> 	Note that all my following remarks are based on the
>> assumption that the reports from CES made here were accurate and
>> complete.
>
>Hmmmm. Would you really want to make that assumtion :-) I am surprised that
>CD-I doesn't have a larger presence at CES. Philips is *supposed* to be
>showing players/titles, etc. Perhaps they were missed by the poster(s) of
>the CES info?
>
	Philips canceled on CES a while ago.

>
>One other note, so far as I know, the initial CD-I players are going to sell
>at about $1000, not $1499 as previously mentioned.
>
	The list price for the Magnavox CD-I (the only one shown
at CES) was $1,400, versus a $1,000 list price on CDTV. They'll
both be discounted, but I doubt the Magnavox will be discounted
$400 more than CDTV. CDTV has been found for just over $700.
Also, many of those mass-retailers are going to charge either
list or almost list.

>
>> 	Basically, we'll have to wait and see what materializes
>> before Christmas. I am pretty sure CD-I will dominate Japan and
>> CDTV will dominate Europe. America is the question.
>
>Not sure I agree with CDTV dominating Europe. Philips is big over there. 
>Again, guess we'll have to see...
>
	The A500 is the best selling computer in both Germany and
England. I think Commodore has the image there to pull off CDTV.
Also, the Magnavox was only listed as selling in the U.S. by
October. Nothing mentioned about Europe. If CD-I misses this
Christmas in Europe they've lost, IMHO.

	-- Ethan

Now the world has gone to bed,		Now I lay me down to sleep,
Darkness won't engulf my head,		Try to count electric sheep,
I can see by infrared,			Sweet dream wishes you can keep,
How I hate the night.			How I hate the night.   -- Marvin
