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From: james@engrss2.unl.edu (James Nau)
Subject: Re: 804 dialout
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In article <1991Jun10.131909.14977@news.larc.nasa.gov> jcburt@ipsun.larc.nasa.gov (John Burton) writes:
>In article <McHuDMW00j69M5j6Z4@andrew.cmu.edu> jb3o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jon Allen Boone) writes:
>>tfabian@falcon.lerc.nasa.gov (Teddy Fabian) writes:
>>> whether the dialouts in question have a password on them or not isn't
>>> the issue.. the issue is whether or not it's right for you or me (or any 
>>> of a thousand other people) to use something to their advantage that isn't
>>> meant for them to use..
>>
>>  Actually, within a certain domain, it is the issue of whether or not
>>access was restricted or people were informed.  There is a difference
>>between a car and a dialout.  For instance, if you did use my car
>>without my permission/knowledge, I'd be worried about getting it back,
>>who had taken it, etc.  On the other hand, if you were using, say, my
>>television - you were just sitting there watching my tv - and not
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>>causing any other difficulty, then I'd have to say that I would mind
>>much less.  It costs money for someone to pay when I use their dialout
>>- it also cost money when you watch my tv (read: electricity).
>>However, in either case, it is of a different class than that of using
>>my car w/o my permission/knowledge.

Perhaps a better still analogy.  What if the TV were in the Student 
Union/Center and some non-student is there watching TV.  Then, a non-student
is using resources of the school...

James
