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From: emv@ox.com (Ed Vielmetti)
Subject: Re: broken mailer of the month award: novell.com
In-Reply-To: geoff@world.std.com's message of Sun, 19 May 1991 22:42:52 GMT
Message-ID: <EMV.91May19194049@poe.aa.ox.com>
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References: <34206@ucsd.Edu> <1991May19.224252.4366@world.std.com>
Date: Sun, 19 May 1991 23:40:52 GMT

In article <1991May19.224252.4366@world.std.com> geoff@world.std.com (Geoff Collyer) writes:

   third strike, any one?

novell.com name servers are goofed up, too, according to doc; their
off-site secondary servers don't return authoritative answers.

--Ed

Doc-2.0.1: Starting test of novell.com.   parent is com.
Doc-2.0.1: Test date - Sun May 19 19:33:21 EDT 1991
soa @a.isi.edu. for com. has serial: 910516

######## Query Log ########

## Nameservers for com. (dig ns com.):

a.isi.edu.
aos.brl.mil.
c.nyser.net.
gunter-adam.af.mil.
ns.nasa.gov.
ns.nic.ddn.mil.
terp.umd.edu.
===================

## SOA record for com. domain from nameserver a.isi.edu.

;; flags: qr aa 
com.	in	soa	ns.nic.ddn.mil.  hostmaster.nic.ddn.mil. (
			910516	;serial
			10800	;refresh
			900	;retry
			604800	;expire
			86400 )	;minim


===================

Doc-2.0.1: Starting test of novell.com.   parent is com.
Doc-2.0.1: Test date - Sun May 19 19:33:43 EDT 1991
soa @a.isi.edu. for com. has serial: 910516
soa @aos.brl.mil. for com. has serial: 910513
soa @c.nyser.net. for com. has serial: 910516
DIGERR (TIME_OUT): dig @gunter-adam.af.mil. for SOA of parent (com.) failed
soa @ns.nasa.gov. for com. has serial: 910516
soa @ns.nic.ddn.mil. for com. has serial: 910516
soa @terp.umd.edu. for com. has serial: 910516
WARNING: Found 2 unique SOA serial #'s for com.
Found 4 NS and 4 glue records for novell.com. @a.isi.edu. (non-AUTH)
Found 4 NS and 4 glue records for novell.com. @aos.brl.mil. (non-AUTH)
Found 4 NS and 4 glue records for novell.com. @c.nyser.net. (non-AUTH)
Found 4 NS and 4 glue records for novell.com. @ns.nasa.gov. (non-AUTH)
Found 4 NS and 4 glue records for novell.com. @ns.nic.ddn.mil. (non-AUTH)
Found 4 NS and 4 glue records for novell.com. @terp.umd.edu. (non-AUTH)
DNServers for com.
   === 0 were also authoritatve for novell.com.
   === 6 were non-authoritative for novell.com.
Servers for com. (not also authoritative for novell.com.)
   === agree on NS records for novell.com.
NS list summary for novell.com. from parent (com.) servers
  == ccnucb.colorado.edu. novlsun.novell.com. ns.utah.edu.
  == xlnvax.excelan.com.
soa @ccnucb.colorado.edu. for novell.com. serial: 
ERROR: no SOA record for novell.com. from ccnucb.colorado.edu.
DIGERR (TIME_OUT): dig @novlsun.novell.com. for SOA of novell.com. failed
soa @ns.utah.edu. for novell.com. serial: 
ERROR: no SOA record for novell.com. from ns.utah.edu.
soa @xlnvax.excelan.com. for novell.com. serial: 100014
ERROR: NS list from novell.com. authoritative servers does not
  === match NS list from parent (com.) servers
NS list summary for novell.com. from authoritative servers
  == mx.novell.com. newsun.novell.com. npd.novell.com.
  == prv.novell.com. svl.novell.com. tahiti.novell.com.
ERROR: xlnvax.excelan.com. claims to be authoritative, but does not appear in
NS list from authoritative servers
Checking 2 potential addresses for hosts at novell.com.
  == 137.65.4.1 130.57.8.1
in-addr PTR record found for 137.65.4.1
in-addr PTR record found for 130.57.8.1
Summary:
   ERRORS found for novell.com. (count: 4)
   WARNINGS issued for novell.com. (count: 1)
   Incomplete test for novell.com. (1)
Done testing novell.com.  Sun May 19 19:34:40 EDT 1991


######## Query Log ########

## Nameservers for com. (dig ns com.):

a.isi.edu.
aos.brl.mil.
c.nyser.net.
gunter-adam.af.mil.
ns.nasa.gov.
ns.nic.ddn.mil.
terp.umd.edu.
===================

## SOA record for com. domain from nameserver a.isi.edu.

;; flags: qr aa 
com.	in	soa	ns.nic.ddn.mil.  hostmaster.nic.ddn.mil. (
			910516	;serial
			10800	;refresh
			900	;retry
			604800	;expire
			86400 )	;minim


===================

## SOA record for com. domain from nameserver aos.brl.mil.

;; flags: qr aa ra 
com.	in	soa	ns.nic.ddn.mil.  hostmaster.nic.ddn.mil. (
			910513	;serial
			10800	;refresh
			900	;retry
			604800	;expire
			86400 )	;minim


===================

## SOA record for com. domain from nameserver c.nyser.net.

;; flags: qr aa ra 
com.	in	soa	ns.nic.ddn.mil.  hostmaster.nic.ddn.mil. (
			910516	;serial
			10800	;refresh
			900	;retry
			604800	;expire
			86400 )	;minim


===================

## SOA record for com. domain from nameserver ns.nasa.gov.

;; flags: qr aa ra 
com.	in	soa	ns.nic.ddn.mil.  hostmaster.nic.ddn.mil. (
			910516	;serial
			10800	;refresh
			900	;retry
			604800	;expire
			86400 )	;minim


===================

## SOA record for com. domain from nameserver ns.nic.ddn.mil.

;; flags: qr aa 
com.	in	soa	ns.nic.ddn.mil.  hostmaster.nic.ddn.mil. (
			910516	;serial
			10800	;refresh
			900	;retry
			604800	;expire
			86400 )	;minim


===================

## SOA record for com. domain from nameserver terp.umd.edu.

;; flags: qr aa ra 
com.	in	soa	ns.nic.ddn.mil.  hostmaster.nic.ddn.mil. (
			910516	;serial
			10800	;refresh
			900	;retry
			604800	;expire
			86400 )	;minim


===================

## NS records for novell.com. domain from nameserver a.isi.edu.

;; flags: qr ; ques: 1, ans: 0, auth: 4, addit: 4
;; authority records:
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	ccnucb.colorado.edu.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	novlsun.novell.com.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	ns.utah.edu.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	xlnvax.excelan.com.
;; additional records:
ccnucb.colorado.edu.	172800	in	a	128.138.238.34
novlsun.novell.com.	172800	in	a	137.65.4.1
ns.utah.edu.	172800	in	a	128.110.124.120
xlnvax.excelan.com.	172800	in	a	130.57.4.1

===================

## NS records for novell.com. domain from nameserver aos.brl.mil.

;; flags: qr ra ; ques: 1, ans: 4, auth: 4, addit: 4
;; answers:
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	ccnucb.colorado.edu.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	novlsun.novell.com.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	ns.utah.edu.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	xlnvax.excelan.com.
;; authority records:
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	ccnucb.colorado.edu.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	novlsun.novell.com.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	ns.utah.edu.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	xlnvax.excelan.com.
;; additional records:
ccnucb.colorado.edu.	172800	in	a	128.138.238.34
novlsun.novell.com.	172800	in	a	137.65.4.1
ns.utah.edu.	172800	in	a	128.110.124.120
xlnvax.excelan.com.	172800	in	a	130.57.4.1

===================

## NS records for novell.com. domain from nameserver c.nyser.net.

;; flags: qr ra ; ques: 1, ans: 4, auth: 4, addit: 4
;; answers:
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	ccnucb.colorado.edu.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	novlsun.novell.com.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	ns.utah.edu.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	xlnvax.excelan.com.
;; authority records:
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	ccnucb.colorado.edu.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	novlsun.novell.com.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	ns.utah.edu.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	xlnvax.excelan.com.
;; additional records:
ccnucb.colorado.edu.	172800	in	a	128.138.238.34
novlsun.novell.com.	172800	in	a	137.65.4.1
ns.utah.edu.	172800	in	a	128.110.124.120
xlnvax.excelan.com.	172800	in	a	130.57.4.1

===================

## NS records for novell.com. domain from nameserver ns.nasa.gov.

;; flags: qr ra ; ques: 1, ans: 4, auth: 4, addit: 4
;; answers:
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	ccnucb.colorado.edu.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	novlsun.novell.com.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	ns.utah.edu.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	xlnvax.excelan.com.
;; authority records:
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	ccnucb.colorado.edu.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	novlsun.novell.com.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	ns.utah.edu.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	xlnvax.excelan.com.
;; additional records:
ccnucb.colorado.edu.	172800	in	a	128.138.238.34
novlsun.novell.com.	172800	in	a	137.65.4.1
ns.utah.edu.	172800	in	a	128.110.124.120
xlnvax.excelan.com.	172800	in	a	130.57.4.1

===================

## NS records for novell.com. domain from nameserver ns.nic.ddn.mil.

;; flags: qr ; ques: 1, ans: 4, auth: 4, addit: 4
;; answers:
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	ccnucb.colorado.edu.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	novlsun.novell.com.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	ns.utah.edu.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	xlnvax.excelan.com.
;; authority records:
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	ccnucb.colorado.edu.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	novlsun.novell.com.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	ns.utah.edu.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	xlnvax.excelan.com.
;; additional records:
ccnucb.colorado.edu.	172800	in	a	128.138.238.34
novlsun.novell.com.	172800	in	a	137.65.4.1
ns.utah.edu.	172800	in	a	128.110.124.120
xlnvax.excelan.com.	172800	in	a	130.57.4.1

===================

## NS records for novell.com. domain from nameserver terp.umd.edu.

;; flags: qr ra ; ques: 1, ans: 4, auth: 4, addit: 4
;; answers:
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	ccnucb.colorado.edu.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	novlsun.novell.com.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	ns.utah.edu.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	xlnvax.excelan.com.
;; authority records:
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	ccnucb.colorado.edu.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	novlsun.novell.com.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	ns.utah.edu.
novell.com.	172800	in	ns	xlnvax.excelan.com.
;; additional records:
ccnucb.colorado.edu.	172800	in	a	128.138.238.34
novlsun.novell.com.	172800	in	a	137.65.4.1
ns.utah.edu.	172800	in	a	128.110.124.120
xlnvax.excelan.com.	172800	in	a	130.57.4.1

===================

## SOA record for novell.com. domain from nameserver ccnucb.colorado.edu.

;; flags: qr ra 

===================

## SOA record for novell.com. domain from nameserver ns.utah.edu.

;; flags: qr ra 

===================

## SOA record for novell.com. domain from nameserver xlnvax.excelan.com.

;; flags: qr aa ra 
novell.com.	in	soa	newsun.novell.com.  hostmaster.novell.com. (
			100014	;serial
			10800	;refresh
			3600	;retry
			3600000	;expire
			86400 )	;minim


===================

## NS records for novell.com. domain from nameserver xlnvax.excelan.com.

;; flags: qr aa ra ; ques: 1, ans: 6, auth: 0, addit: 7
;; answers:
novell.com.	86400	in	ns	mx.novell.com.
novell.com.	86400	in	ns	newsun.novell.com.
novell.com.	86400	in	ns	npd.novell.com.
novell.com.	86400	in	ns	prv.novell.com.
novell.com.	86400	in	ns	svl.novell.com.
novell.com.	86400	in	ns	tahiti.novell.com.
;; additional records:
mx.novell.com.	86400	in	a	130.57.8.1
newsun.novell.com.	86400	in	a	130.57.10.190
newsun.novell.com.	86400	in	a	130.57.16.1
newsun.novell.com.	86400	in	a	130.57.4.1
npd.novell.com.	86400	in	a	137.65.12.1
prv.novell.com.	86400	in	a	137.65.4.1
svl.novell.com.	120	in	a	130.57.133.10

===================

### Queries for nameserver address in-addr.arpa. records


; <<>> DiG 2.0 <<>> +pfset=0x2738 -x 
;; flags: qr aa rd ra ; Ques: 1, Ans: 1, Auth: 0, Addit: 0
;; QUESTIONS: 
;;	1.4.65.137.in-addr.arpa, type = ANY, class = IN

;; ANSWERS:
1.4.65.137.in-addr.arpa.	2940	PTR	novlsun.prv.Novell.COM.


; <<>> DiG 2.0 <<>> +pfset=0x2738 -x 
;; flags: qr aa rd ra ; Ques: 1, Ans: 1, Auth: 0, Addit: 0
;; QUESTIONS: 
;;	1.8.57.130.in-addr.arpa, type = ANY, class = IN

;; ANSWERS:
1.8.57.130.in-addr.arpa.	86400	PTR	mx.novell.COM.

