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Date: Wed, 15 May 1991 13:52:48 GMT

In article <1991May15.004928.15595@gn.ecn.purdue.edu>, jess@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jess M Holle) writes:
>I am very curious about this as well and have the following questions to add:
>
>1)  Does the Hypercard 2.1 that comes with 7.0 include everything from
>     -the Claris release
>     -the minimalized version that comes with new Macs

The version of Hypercard 2.1 is the "minimalized" version.  You get
the full HC 2.1 binary, the "crippled" home stack (User Level 1 and 2
only), plus Addresses and Appointment Calendar.  On the plus side,
however, it is "Addresses with Audio" and "Appointment Calendar with
Audio".  You also get an "Audio Help" stack.

As an aside, the trick of typing "magic" at the user level card no
longer works.  Pressing any key at that card just give you a beep.

I think this is reliable info - I mean, I have the disks from the
Personal Upgrade Kit right here... :-)

>2)  If (1) is a no on either or both counts, what is missing/will I need/want
>    it (ie. can I open any stack that I might come across that requires 2.1,
>    can I do my own scripting, etc, etc)

You can open any stack that requires 2.1, provided you have enough
system resources, of course.

In order to do your own scripting, however, you need an alternate Home
stack that will allow you to crank up the User Level (unless there is
a trick in this one, different than "magic").  You'll probably also
want some additional "support stacks".  I'd advise you to check your
local user group, ftp sites such as <sumex.stanford.edu> and
<mac.archive.umich.edu>, and certain HyperCard books available in
bookstores for these stacks.

>3)  Are the Hypercard 2.1 disks freely copiable like the rest of 7.0
>     -at dealers
>     -eventually over ftp

I have no firm data on this, but I doubt it.  The Compatibility
Checker can run on any HC from 2.1 to 1.2.2, so HC 2.1 is needed for
that, and the only dealer that I've encountered who was allowing
copies to be made of System 7.0 was not allowing copies of HC 2.1.

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Jim Gaynor - AgVAX System Manager - Academic Computing - Ohio State University
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Disclaimer : All opinions expressed here are mine and only mine.  So there!
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