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From: vw3@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Vernon Williams)
Subject: Re: DTS
Message-ID: <1991May4.113217.13049@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 4 May 1991 11:32:17 GMT

In article <9JXc23w164w@xcluud.sccsi.com> gtolar@xcluud.sccsi.com (Glynne Tolar) writes:
>This question is to anybody at Apple who will dare address it.
> 
>I talked to Andrew at CV Technoligies eariler today.  He explained to me in 
>what I caused to be a lengthy conversation that he was a developer that 
>paied the $600 a year (yes, I know it is now $300 and I did correct him) and 
>he said "And you know what I get for the $600?  A bunch of Mac crap."  Now 
>no flame here Matt but what is the deal?

I think that this means that he's not an Apple II Developer (at least in
Apple's eyes) Did he specify that he only wanted to be an Apple II developer?
I think it costs less and you don't have to wade though lots of mac literature.

>
>My personal observation...That is Apple's idea of Apple II developer 
>support.  Send Mac developement materals, develope on the Mac (for II 
>software, how strange).  Explains the 2 Macs in Andy's cube.

I've seen what Andy does with his mac(s). He uses the cross-development system.
I beleive he told me that he liked the set-up as it freed up his IIGS so he
could do nifty things with it.
>
>I'm beginning to wonder if 1) Apple II hardware engineers exist anymore, and 
>2) if Apple II software engineers are just trainees for future jobs in Mac 
>developement.  Again, Apple's idea of support.  Don't get me wrong guys.  I 
>like the fict you're doing something.  Problem is, should be settle for just 
>the bones Apple throws our way or is their going to be any meet anytime.

I think you should get all the facts before you get quite so upset. While 
Apple doesn't support the Apple II in the same way it does the mac, it does 
support it. How soon we forget the VOC, HyperCard IIGS, System 5.0.x...

These aren't usefull for everyone, but does suggest that there is still 
some interest in the II.

What was the last thing you did to support the Apple II line? (Actually I'm
sure you've done something...I'm just asking this semi-retorically)
>
>We don't care, we don't have to.  We're Apple computer.

I care, as do many others...(many of them Apple employees) that should count 
for something

>----------------------- OR -----------------------------
>Apple II forever.  I just love hearing the company LInE.

Nothing is forever, but I 'm sure my machine will be around for a little while
(I still find uses for it and am more comfortable with it than with any other 
computer I've used so far)

>   Pick your favorite.             gtolar@xcluud.sccsi.com
>I didn't write the organization or path.  I just use it.


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