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From: jph@ais.org (Joseph Hillenburg)
Subject: Re: Anyone actually own an 040 Amiga?
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Date: Sun, 5 May 1991 09:04:39 GMT

In article <+q2G9+1*1@cs.psu.edu> melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) writes:
>
>In article <91124.170117MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu> <MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>
>   Gosh, I dunno. Wait a minute, here's some companies that are planning
>   drop-in 68040 boards for $800, barely the cost of the 68040 chip itself.
>   Well, there ya go.
>
>How long are we going to have to wait? Eh?

Just until '040 production speeds up. There are about 5-7 boards ready NOW, but
there's so much backlog on the '040 that noone can get any.

>
>   Wild guess: $1000 or so. YOU, however, will NOT be able to upgrade
>   YOUR NeXT Slab to the 68050, PERIOD. In 3 years you'll have to throw out your
>   Slab and buy a Boulder. Assuming NeXT is still around in three years.
>
>Then buy the Boulder today for an extra $1500 to $2000 so you can
>expand it in three years.  NeXT released the slab so people could
>afford a NeXT who couldn't before.  People buy Pizza box
>SparcStations.  I wonder why?  Got an answer?
>

B-b-b-but every sPARC except the SLC and possibly IPC has expansion slots,
something the NeXTstation is sorely missing, and should've been considered.
Also, what if one couldn't afford the boulder? They buy the Slab now, then
are totally phased out when NeXT switches to the 88000. (Or the planned
superscalar version...)

>   The ECS Agnes and Denise chips together cost $150; for this you drop
>   in completely new chips. The cost will never be much more than that.
>
>Does that mean they aren't available yet too(too as in where is A DOS
>2.0)

The ECS Agnus is, the Denise is only in the 3000, at this point, but would
most likely come out when Kickstart is burned into ROM.

>
>   Even a lowly Amiga 500 can be expanded to take advantage of every
>   expansion devise there is: lots of people have '030-powered A500s.
>   Get a clue: most people would rather not have to throw away their
>   old computer if they want to take advantage of a new chip. There's
>   a reason for expansion ports, y'know.
>
>REALLLLYYYY!!!  What about the super expandable Amiga 1000?  What's
>going to happen to it?  That was just a protoype right?  Can I get
>half bright mode for an early Amiga 1000?  How about 2 megs of chip
>RAM?  People would rather think that they can expand their computer
>forever so they'll pay more money for something that they won't use.
>Slabs cost $2500.  If NeXT doesn't offer another board for the Slab,
>I'll just order out for another pizza box.  I imagine that an 040 NeXT
>will still be worth $1000 to $1500 in three years(slab only).
>

The A1000 was a mistake. If the designers had more time, what we would have
had was something more like the 2000.

>-Mike

*sigh* NeXT idiots everywhere...
-- 
Joseph Hillenburg
jph@irie.ais.org
