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From: johnhlee@CS.Cornell.EDU (John H. Lee)
Subject: Re: X windows on a 500?  Am I reaching?
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In article <1991Apr29.111550.5921@mack.uit.no> terjepe@stud.cs.uit.no (Terje Pedersen) writes:
>Sounds like music in my ears..
>Is it available on ftp ?
>from X.h:
[...DEC/MIT copyright notice deleted...]
>
>=> in other words : you can't sell it.
>
>so if it isn't available on ftp, are you going to make it available ?
>
>TP

I was under the impression that the notice gave explicit permission to
distribute without paying a fee to DEC or MIT, but that selling the
X Window System is not explicitly prohibited, especially if one sells a
machine-specific X server or libraries not provided in the standard
distribution.  Ironically, the Free Software Foundation sells generic X11R4
(shipped in various tape formats.)  No, X is *not* public-domain.

Thus, you'll need to buy Dale Luck's X11 (Commodore's is free for an A3000UX)
anyways since you'll need a AmigaDOS and Amiga-specific X server and
X libraries.  Since the standard X distribution is strongly geared towards
UNIX, I seriously doubt you you can even compile the client parts of the
standard distribution on an non-UNIX Amiga.

But should you feel rather adventurous and have several hundred free hours
on your hands, the latest archives (all 40+ megs of them?) are free via
anonymous FTP from various sites.  Quoted from the comp.windows.x FAQ:

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        X11R4 is ftp-able from export.lcs.mit.edu; these sites are preferable,
though, and are more direct:

                        Machine                  Internet      FTP
    Location            Name                     Address       Directory
    --------            -------                  --------      -------------
(1) West USA            gatekeeper.dec.com       16.1.0.2      pub/X11/R4
    Central USA         mordred.cs.purdue.edu    128.10.2.2    pub/X11/R4
(2) Central USA         giza.cis.ohio-state.edu  128.146.8.61  pub/X.V11R4
    Southeast USA       uunet.uu.net             192.48.96.2   X/R4
(3) Northeast USA       crl.dec.com              192.58.206.2  pub/X11/R4
(4) UK Janet            src.doc.ic.ac.uk         129.31.81.36  X.V11R4
    UK niftp            uk.ac.ic.doc.src                       <XV11R4>
(5) Australia           munnari.oz.au            128.250.1.21  X.V11/R4

The giza.cis.ohio-state.edu site, in particular, is known to have much of the
contrib stuff that can be found on export.

The release is available to DEC Easynet sites as CRL::"/pub/X11/R4".

Sites in Australia may contact this address: ftp.Adelaide.EDU.AU
[129.127.40.3] and check the directory pub/X/R4. The machine shadows export
and archives comp.sources.x. (Mark Prior, mrp@ucs.adelaide.edu.au, 5/90)

Note: a much more complete list is distributed regularly by Dan Heller
(argv@sun.com) as part of the introductory postings to comp.sources.x.

A set of X11R4 binaries built by Tom Roell (roell@informatik.tu-muenchen.de)
for the 386/ix will available from export.lcs.mit.edu in /contrib and in
/pub/i386/X11R4 from 131.159.8.35 in Europe. Stephen Hite
(shite@sinkhole.unf.edu) can also distribute to folks without ftp facilities
via disks sent SASE; contact him for USmail and shipping details. [12/90]
In addition, the binaries are available via uucp from szebra
[1-408-739-1520, TB+ (PEP); ogin:nuucp sword:nuucp] in /usr2/xbbs/bbs/x.
In addition, the source is on zok in /usrX/i386.R4server/. [2/91]

A set of HP 9000/800 binaries is available on hpcvaaz.cv.hp.com (15.255.72.15)
as ~ftp/pub/MitX11R4/libs.x800.Z. [2/91]

A set of [usable but admittedly flawed] X11R4 binaries built by Mr. Mouse
(mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu) for the original NeXT is available from
132.206.1.1, in X/XNeXT/distribution.Z. [12/90]

A set of binaries by John Coolidge (coolidge@cs.uiuc.edu) for the Mac running
A/UX 2.0 is available from wuarchive.wustl.edu in the file
(/archive/systems/aux/X11R4/Xupdate2.tar.Z). Also in X11R4/diffs is a set of
patches for making X11R4 with shared libraries with mkshlib.

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