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From: greg@travis.cica.indiana.edu (Gregory TRAVIS)
Subject: Re: Amiga/NeXT flames (Was Re: Amiga OS *IS* state...)
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Date: 12 Apr 91 02:06:35 GMT

dltaylor@cns.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Dan Taylor) writes:

>In <yd8G8k8l1@cs.psu.edu> melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) writes:

>>Why is the Unix non-standard?

>1) ONLY the NeXT runs that kernel; it is not System V, it is NOT bsd4.3
>(any version) or bsd4.4, it is NOT OSF (as if they actually shipped one).
>SunOS is not a standard kernel, either, but they've shipped enough that
>some people think it is.

I dare you to find a single significant difference between the programming
interface to NeXT's Mach and a pure 4.3BSD system.  We have several machines
here (lots of Suns/Stardents/Silicon Graphics/NeXTs/Macintosh-AUX/VAXs/IBMRT).
We have ONE pure 4.3 system - The IBM RT (first generation).  And the
NeXTs are the second choice for "generic" computers.  Where do all those
VAXs running Ultrix fall in your classification?

>2) it has NON-standard mailers (voice is nice, why not an OSI standard?).

Don't really know what you're talking about here.  Sendmail is still the
underlying delivery method and SMTP is the connection to the outside
world.

>3) it has a non-standard graphics interface; it is NOT X11R4, which is
>[the] only non-proprietary GUI standard.  DPS has nice features, but it
>isn't a standard, it's [a] proprietary licensed technology.

1)  Thank God.  2) So what?

>As an aside, other than watching goldfish, what practical use is the
>transparency?

Try programming one sometime.
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Gregory R. Travis                Indiana University, Bloomington IN 47405
greg@cica.indiana.edu  		 Center for Innovative Computer Applications
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