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From: melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger)
Subject: Re: Amiga OS *IS* state of the art, but the NeXT is better
In-Reply-To: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu's message of 3 Apr 91 07:51:21 GMT
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In article <1991Apr3.075121.18084@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes:

	   Wait, wait, wait. Aren't you saying that the NeXT is the
   great machine? They don't even HAVE a model for the $1,000 area.
   The flicker-fixer can be added to an A2000, i.e. anything but an
   A500, and there is an adaptor for A500s made by third-parties (I
   believe ICD?). And, as to it not being in the machine, if you
   have a competent dealer they will install it for you.

I'm looking at the complete market.  The A500 doesn't compete with the
NeXT, it competes with cheap PC compatibles and the low-end Macs --
and Ataris.  I was simply making an observation on how I thought the
A500 could be improved so that people wouldn't look at a cheap PC
clone with a VGA monitor then at the flickering Amiga monitor and
decide to buy the PC.  The average consumer isn't going to ask for
flicker fixer!

   >Isn't a Toaster being made for the Mac?  And don't forget to watch out
   >for the NeXTDimension board from NeXT.
   >
   (I hate to this, but it is well deserved)

BZZZZT, wrong.  I didn't make an inaccurate statement, I asked a
question.  However, you get BZZZZT for you lack of knowledge in your
other posting about RISC vs. CISC.  Do you think pc's outperform
workstations?

   BZZZZZT    Wrong answer! But thank you for playing!
	   NewTek is definitely not making a Toaster for the Mac.
   While there are Apple companies who claim to be making similar
   devices, that is to be expected. I have seen no price estimates,
   and of course there is no hardware to SEE on the mac, just
   advertisements. Lots of vapor.

	   That's why the Amiga has the best character generation
   software and the best 3-D modeling software of anything in its
   price range. Yes, a niche market, but that is how Apple started,
   not so?

Why is it better?  I'm not that familiar with the Amiga character
generation software.  How is it better than Display Postscript?

	   Yes, but there were never really any good years for the
   Amiga at that point. Now it has made its mark. Obviously the
   Amiga won't last forever, but Commodore can be considered a sure
   thing for the next 5-10 years, at least if stock-market analysts
   are to be believed. They've rated Commodore a 'strong-buy' and
   have said that it is a company to watch for in the 90s.

Technology is changing too fast to say that a company is going to be a
strong buy throughtout the next decade.  With the introduction of HP's
Snake machines, all bets are off.  What's going to happen when
Microsoft, Compaq, and MIPS tell IBM this is how it's going to be?

On another thread, how much raw CPU does it take a computer to make up
for the advantage the Amiga has with its blitter?  Does the blitter
effectively run at 14MHz?  Someone told me that it was only 3MHz.
Does a 33 MHz PC have comparable graphics capabilities to an Amiga
500?

-Mike

