Newsgroups: news.software.b
Path: utzoo!geoff
From: geoff@zoo.toronto.edu (Geoffrey Collyer)
Subject: Re: Unsubscribed newsgroups in C News log
Message-ID: <1991Feb20.063914.9994@zoo.toronto.edu>
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology
References: <1991Feb20.024549.8050@uai.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 1991 06:39:14 GMT

Mark R. Ludwig:
>	Feb 19 03:15:27.510 uunet - <casterln.666903484@are> 
>			    no subscribed groups in `gnu.emacs.help'

Looks likes another set of FAQ answers.  This message means that
gnu.emacs.help is not permitted by your subscription list (newsgroup
pattern in your ME line).  Very likely you'ved got "!gnu" in there or
you've omitted "gnu" entirely.

>Despite this
>message, some posts in the named newsgroups succeed in making it into
>the spool.  For example, here are the last few entries from the spool
>directory for gnu.emacs.help:
>
>	-rw-rw-r--  1 news         1121 Feb 19 03:15 gnu/emacs/help/109
>	-rw-rw-r--  1 news         2162 Feb 19 03:15 gnu/emacs/help/108
>	-rw-rw-r--  1 news        28133 Feb 18 03:15 gnu/emacs/help/107

This usually means that you are receiving cross-posted articles which
name gnu.emacs.help and at least one group permitted by your
subscription list.  The link counts should be greater than 1 though, so
perhaps the other group(s) aren't in your active file.

>Clearly, *some* posts are getting through.  Here are the relevant lines
>from our active file (we have 36 entries):
>
>	gnu.emacs.help 0000000109 0000000001 y
>	gnu.emacs.bug 0000000001 0000000001 m
>	gnu.emacs.gnus 0000000005 0000000001 y
>	gnu.gdb.bug 0000000001 0000000001 m

Why do you have these groups in your active file when your sys file
doesn't permit them?  You should fix one file or the other.

>(Side question: I have searched quite thoroughly and have been
>unable to find the rejected articles anywhere!  I thought I might find
>them in newsgroup junk.  Where are they?)

Dropped articles (as opposed to junked articles, which are flagged with
a "j" flag in the log file) do not appear in junk.  Articles that you
have clearly asked to be rejected are just dropped; articles are junked
only when there is doubt (roughly, when your subscription list permits
at least one group in an article yet none of these groups appear in
active, which probably means that the newgroup for the valid group(s)
hasn't arrived yet).
-- 
Geoff Collyer		utzoo!geoff, zoo.toronto.edu!geoff
