Newsgroups: ont.general
Path: utzoo!utgpu!golchowy
From: golchowy@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Sunday shopping
Message-ID: <1989Dec22.175546.20004@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca>
Organization: UTCS Public Access
References: <89Dec20.141047est.2233@neat.cs.toronto.edu> <690@alias.UUCP>
Distribution: ont
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 89 17:55:46 GMT

In article <690@alias.UUCP> kpicott%alias@csri.utoronto.ca (Socrates) writes:
>
>I completely and utterly disagree with the assumption that since someone is
>forcing you to do something then that thing is necessarily evil.  (This is
>what I meant by "red herring".)
>
 
and in response to the comment:

>>
>>Funny, but I thought that in a free society, people ought to be able
>>to do what they want, as long as it doesn't injure someone else.
>>

>This sounds more like anarchy to me.  With any form of government people are
>restricted by the rules of society, whether they agree with them or not.
>
Sounds pretty totalitarian to me....
 
If the
laws of society are immoral or evil or unjust, I will do my best
to change them legally, and if they are offensive enough, through
civil disobedience.  Obeying evil or immoral laws makes one guilty
of evil or immoral behavior.  The Nuremburg defense of immoral laws
will not work...citizens who obey or support immoral laws are immoral.  

> Kevin Picott   aka   Socrates   aka   kpicott%alias@csri.toronto.edu
> Alias Research Inc.  R+D          Toronto, Ontario... like, downtown
> "There can be no offense where none is taken" - Japanese proverb

Haven't you ever heard of human rights or individual rights?
It is necessarily evil if you or the state force me to do something 
or not to do something which does not infringe on the rights of
others.  Sunday shopping does not infringe on your rights at all.
The Sunday shopping laws infringe on my individual and human
rights a great deal.  They are offensive and immoral.  
-- 
Gerald Olchowy   <golchowy@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca>
Chemical Physics Theory Group, Department of Chemistry
University of Toronto, Toronto, Ontario  M5S 1A1
