[HN Gopher] Dr. Dobb's Developer Library DVD 6 (2010)
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Dr. Dobb's Developer Library DVD 6 (2010)
Author : kristianp
Score : 118 points
Date : 2026-04-05 00:37 UTC (4 days ago)
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| throwa356262 wrote:
| Don't forget to donate to archive.org while at it.
|
| The amount of useful material they have gathered is impressive.
| raybb wrote:
| Money is great, and they're also looking for volunteers all the
| time to help out with Open Library. The website is constantly
| under attack from DDoS, and we're always improving, but it's a
| long road. I'm just a volunteer, but a very active one.
| throwa356262 wrote:
| What kind of volunteering is needed?
| tmountain wrote:
| Jeeze, what's the motivation to DDoS a service like this?
| trinix912 wrote:
| Could it just be insanely intense nonstop crawling? I've
| seen it on some other sites.
| YesThatTom2 wrote:
| I will speculate the DDOS attacks are funded by companies
| and governments that benefit from not being held
| accountable for their past deeds. I suspect X, Google,
| China, PRNK, Hungary, etc
| mikestew wrote:
| _Money is great, and they 're also looking for volunteers all
| the time to help out with Open Library._
|
| I made a good-faith effort at searching the site for anything
| requesting volunteer work, and came up empty. Got a pointer?
| What are they looking for?
| damnitbuilds wrote:
| And if you're a tech billionaire, please fund offshore backups
| of archive.org !
| throwa356262 wrote:
| Working on it, only two more commas to go :)
|
| I wonder if r/datahorde folks can be of any help here.
| npongratz wrote:
| I believe you mean r/datahoarder:
| https://old.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/
|
| r/datahorde is different, and a ghost town.
| throwa356262 wrote:
| yeah, that's the correct sub. Thanks
| niemandhier wrote:
| I miss dr dobb
| sumtechguy wrote:
| dobbs and msdn were my reading while I was waiting on a 2 hour
| compile many times. then msdn went terrible, and dobbs out of
| business :(
| pjmlp wrote:
| Some interesting stuff you will get out of Dr. Dobbs articles, as
| someone that was an avid reader.
|
| - The Small C compiler set of articles, where you will get the
| sense not even K&R C was used outside UNIX for quite some time,
| only a common subset.
|
| - The toolbox articles creating a Turbo Vision like framework in
| Object Pascal
|
| - The evolution of Python and related adoption
|
| - Strange programing languages like Actor, C@+ (try to search
| this one nowadays), Sather, BETA
|
| - The fashionable compiler benchmarks that used to be quite
| common back in the day
|
| - The evolution of C and C++ at ISO, while their standards were
| being started
|
| - A more heterogenous way of software development, when it wasn't
| only UNIX clones and Windows.
| vidarh wrote:
| A lot of very accessible algorithm articles too. I still
| remember the article on ternary trees.
| raverbashing wrote:
| > C@+ (try to search this one nowadays)
|
| I think not even Wikipedia knows about this (at least with a
| quick search)
| pjmlp wrote:
| Got the name a bit off, see other HNers replies.
| andai wrote:
| Catplus?
|
| Edit: Yandex can search for it! But doesn't seem to find
| anything relevant.
|
| (It also hates such queries and will force you to wait 2
| minutes for a captcha to load.. but you get the results after a
| long wait! As our forefathers once did!)
|
| I did find C@ and C@++ though.
|
| https://esolangs.org/wiki/C@%2B%2B
| bayindirh wrote:
| '"C@+" programming language' query in Kagi returns a single hit
| from Esolang [0].
|
| [0]: https://esolangs.org/wiki/C@%2B%2B
| pjmlp wrote:
| See reply from EdwardCoffin.
| EdwardCoffin wrote:
| I think it was C+@ (pronounced CAT, as I recall).
|
| Edit: pasting a comment of mine from here in 2019 [1]:
|
| _The language is C+@ [2]. I dug up an article about it in Dr.
| Dobbs Journal, the October 1993 issue. This does not seem to be
| the article I am remembering, since it does not go into the
| instruction interleaving technique anywhere near as much as I
| remember, but they do mention it and say it was called
| "beading":_
|
| The binaries produced by the C+@ compiler are independent of
| the underlying machine architecture. Without recompiling,
| applications can be moved from SPARC to 68000 to Intel x86, and
| so on. C+@ is not interpretive--the binaries are encoded using
| a sophisticated 'beading' technique developed at Bell Labs.
| Because of the streamlined language design, the C+@ compiler
| produces these portable binaries with extraordinary speed,
| without the need for preprocessing or front ends.
|
| _This is from the article 's introduction:_
|
| The C+@ programming language, an object-oriented language
| derived from AT&T Bell Lab's Calico programming language, was
| developed to provide programmers with a true object-based
| language and development environment. C+@ (pronounced "cat")
| has the syntax of C and the power of Smalltalk. Unlike C++, C+@
| includes a mature class library with more than 350 classes used
| throughout the system. The C+@ compiler itself is written in
| C+@, and all of the source for the class libraries is included
| with development systems. The Calico project was started at
| AT&T Bell Labs in the early '80s, after the introduction of
| Smalltalk and at the same time as C++. Calico was originally
| used for rapid prototyping of telecommunication services;
| hence, its heavy emphasis on keeping the language syntax simple
| and showcasing the power of the graphical development
| environment.*
|
| [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20583430
|
| [2] https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/C%2b%40
| pjmlp wrote:
| Yeah, thanks.
| bitexploder wrote:
| I asked the AI. It's first reference was this comment. They
| were really doing a lot in the 80s at Bell Labs.
| Asooka wrote:
| Ah, the e2 article says it was patented, so no wonder it
| never gained traction. Surely that patent is long expired,
| though?
| jhbadger wrote:
| Actor was fascinating -- basically Smalltalk made to look "more
| familiar" with a C-like syntax. It was created by odd-language
| designer Charles Duff (who had earlier created Neon, an object-
| oriented Forth).
| zyxzevn wrote:
| Here is the mythical programming language C@ It is programming
| humor with cats. http://www.reddit.com/r/C_AT
| ForOldHack wrote:
| 3, 5 and 6 are up. My copies of 1~4 were stolen. :(
|
| https://archive.org/search?query=Dr.+Dobb%27s+Developer+Libr...
|
| And the journals:
|
| https://archive.org/details/texts?tab=collection&query=Dr.+D...
| asdefghyk wrote:
| Lots of the old magazines have not been collected and or
| scanned yet ......
| myth_drannon wrote:
| A better link for Dr. Dobb's collection:
| https://archive.org/details/dr_dobbs_journal
| retro64 wrote:
| Interesting - would have thought they all would be uploaded by
| now. I feel like I bought the set years ago when Dr Dobbs
| folded but I can't seem to dig them up. However I did find my
| Verity Stob archive CD :) (which looks like it might already be
| on the archive - I can't be sure as mine is still sealed in the
| shipping packaged, never opened it)
| cobbzilla wrote:
| A quite memorable article [1] described a "backwards" message-
| passing technique in C++ using operator overloading so you could
| do stuff like: obj<-method arg1 arg2;
|
| [1]
| https://jacobfilipp.com/DrDobbs/articles/DDJ/1996/9608/9608e...
| supliminal wrote:
| Wasn't this an April 1st entry? :-)
| raverbashing wrote:
| I guess something like
| https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1642028/what-is-the-oper...
| zzrrt wrote:
| I skimmed the article and haven't gotten out the compiler or
| source files, but does anyone understand how arg1 and arg2 with
| space and no operator in between are syntactically valid C++,
| and what do they do?
| tuwtuwtuwtuw wrote:
| Is there any magazines like this left? When I was a kid, I used
| to buy these. I didn't even have a computer, I was just enjoying
| imagining what I could do if I had one. Didn't understand 10% or
| the content though.
| jhbadger wrote:
| I'd recommend Paged Out https://pagedout.institute/
|
| And PoCoGTFO https://alchemistowl.org/pocorgtfo/
|
| These are free modern magazines that capture the feeling of joy
| of programming that Dobbs and BYTE used to have
| tartoran wrote:
| I really like Paged Out. It's got quite a nice amalgam of
| topics, as well as the SciFi art illustrations.
| myth_drannon wrote:
| Paged Out has too much AI related articles.
| olvy0 wrote:
| Closest would be the ACCU Overload journal, freely available
| here [0].
|
| There'a also Visual studio Magazine but it's obviously
| Microsoft-centric [1].
|
| Also CODE magazine [2] but it's more lightweight, feels more
| "commercial".
|
| [0]
| https://accu.org/journals/nonmembers/overload_issue_members/
|
| [1] https://visualstudiomagazine.com/home.aspx
|
| [2] https://www.codemag.com/magazine/allissues
| teunispeters wrote:
| I bought every issue I could find of this ....always so much
| inspiration!
| myth_drannon wrote:
| I also liked Borland's Turbo Technix -
| https://archive.org/details/texts?tab=collection&query=turbo...
| sooperserieous wrote:
| Many of us followed Jeff D to PC Techniques and Visual
| Developer - http://www.duntemann.com/vdmarchive.htm
| moochamerth wrote:
| Thank you, that's quite the trip down the memory lane! I devoured
| Dr. Dobb's when I was a teenager!
|
| I ended up on Michael Swaine's Medium site [1], and then ordered
| his book: "Fire in the Valley" (2014) [2].
|
| [1] https://medium.com/@michaelswaine
|
| [2] https://pragprog.com/titles/fsfire/fire-in-the-valley/
| mindcrime wrote:
| Since we're talking about archive.org stuff, if y'all will permit
| it, I'd like to call attention to this thread as well
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47702136
|
| It looks like CiteseerX from PSU is now effectively offline and
| everything is redirecting to the Wayback Machine. But many of
| those links are not _in_ the Wayback Machine. Hopefully there is
| - or can be - some focused effort to get that content transferred
| over, if the citeseerx site is really going away for good.
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