[HN Gopher] Agentic AI Foundation
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Agentic AI Foundation
Author : thinkingkong
Score : 108 points
Date : 2025-12-09 20:00 UTC (14 hours ago)
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| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| More discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46207425
| flakiness wrote:
| So I'll focus on the block's contribtution, which is goose:
| https://github.com/block/goose
|
| Has it gotten better and good enough? I tried it a few months
| back and it was pretty crappy. And it's not because of bad models
| (I used it with the latest Claude at that time) but because of
| poor harness implementation and UI.
|
| Is it worth trying the latest version to see how it compares with
| Claude Code? I want OSS, model agnostic implementation to win but
| I felt the odds are off then. I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
| maelito wrote:
| Tried Goose, couldn't do anything. OpenCode is better.
| Mistral's Vibe too.
| pzo wrote:
| I did tried as well few months and also uninstalled.
| Application didn't at least back then have update feature and
| for each new release you had to reinstall again. UI experience
| was also very poor comparing to many other open source projects
| - would expect they at least hire some designer
| eagleinparadise wrote:
| Goose was super jank when I last tried it. Not worth a look
| rbren wrote:
| The OpenHands CLI has had some major improvements since v1:
| https://github.com/OpenHands/OpenHands
|
| MIT license and model agnostic
|
| I'd also keep a close eye on Toad which is launching this
| month:
|
| https://willmcgugan.github.io/announcing-toad/
| ewoodrich wrote:
| I use OpenCode as my main CLI tool at this point, falling back
| to Claude Code and Codex as needed. It's really solid these
| days, highly recommend.
|
| I use Claude Sonnet 4.5, Gemini 3 Pro Preview, and GPT 5/5-mini
| with great results on OC. I initially tried it so I could
| decouple from VS Code extensions while still using my Github
| Copilot plan like I had been with Roo Code/Kilo Code, but have
| branched out to also using it with the Claude Code backend and
| their free models as they come and go.
|
| Definitely worth trying if you haven't picked it up recently.
| clhodapp wrote:
| Open source rarely wins at the start.
|
| Instead, its strength tends to be a continued improvement over
| the long term, in a way that commercial software just can't
| sustain because it needs to show a return on investment.
| csomar wrote:
| No. It didn't get any better. To be honest, the only working
| agentic tool out there in Claude Code. All other tools seems to
| confuse the model and not help much. Also _bugs_ are a real
| problem (with gemini cli, it 's really pathetic). Not that
| Claude Code doesn't have dozens of issues but the bar in this
| niche is set really low.
| matt_daemon wrote:
| Spot the odd one out
| kordlessagain wrote:
| Such irony given Anthropic is hostile to open sourcing their
| agent frameworks like clause desktop and CLI.
| N_Lens wrote:
| Forgive me for underestimating but I'd never heard of 'Block'
| before, and the title "Block, Anthropic, and OpenAI Launch the
| Agentic AI Foundation" reads a bit funny to me. Plus the bitcoin
| blurb on their site is also worth a chuckle -
|
| "Bitcoin is about access, not speculation. It's designed to be
| open, fast, low-cost, and free from centralized control. It's
| meant to empower people"
| bdangubic wrote:
| > "Bitcoin is about access, not speculation. It's designed to
| be open, fast, low-cost, and free from centralized control.
| It's meant to empower people"
|
| This is the most amazing paragraph I think I have ever read,
| pure gold!
| lkbm wrote:
| Block is the new name for Square, also of CashApp.
| daveguy wrote:
| Yeah... Still gonna use my credit card or debit card.
| bigmadshoe wrote:
| Square is primarily a payment platform so you probably have
| used your credit or debit card thousands of times with them
| already.
| jazzyjackson wrote:
| Square is likely the POS terminal you've been using your
| card on. They pioneered those neat headphone jack adaptors
| that let small businesses use their iPhone to take payment
| years before tapping phones together was a thing. Not a bad
| business, made jack Dorsey rich, now he gets to play around
| with crypto junk
| lrkerhn2 wrote:
| Same here. Never heard of them before. But the more you look
| around on their site, feels more and more like some parody
| company. They seem to be into everything - bitcoin, blockchain,
| decentralized this, decentralized that, something called TBD,
| then Web5 (what even is that?)
|
| https://blog.identity.foundation/block-contributes-to-dif/
|
| https://tbd.website/
|
| This company seems to be mocking itself.
| pests wrote:
| Square renamed themselves to Block. You might have heard of
| CashApp for example. Their CEO is Jack Dorsey. They have POS
| terminals and credit card readers.
| jmathai wrote:
| That website reminds me of the one...where a guy sold pixels on a
| website for like a buck and people basically bought ads.
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Million_Dollar_Homepage
| N_Lens wrote:
| Yes it does feel a bit grift adjacent.
| PierceJoy wrote:
| The guy who created that page actually went on to found the
| Calm app, which has a multi billion dollar valuation now.
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