[HN Gopher] Blackholing My Email
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       Blackholing My Email
        
       Author : semyonsh
       Score  : 162 points
       Date   : 2026-04-07 08:42 UTC (14 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.johnsto.co.uk)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.johnsto.co.uk)
        
       | riverforest wrote:
       | Email is the one thing everyone complains about and almost nobody
       | actually fixes. Curious how long this lasts before something
       | important falls through.
        
         | righthand wrote:
         | There's nothing to fall through, email fits it's exact purpose.
         | Email is supposed to have 0 sending/receiving friction. So one
         | idea to fix it is to only accept email from addresses you've
         | allowed. No one wants to constantly update their address book
         | though, they just want the email (forgetting to remove the
         | marketing email allowance after you receive the account
         | verification link). So then there's nothing to fix.
         | 
         | The abuse is by design.
        
         | MattTheRealOne wrote:
         | Email definitely has its issues, but given that every other
         | form of digital communication is getting worse and more locked
         | down, I have no confidence that a replacement would be better.
         | While increasingly difficult to get self-hosted email to be
         | accepted by the big providers like Google and Microsoft, it is
         | still great to at least have the option of hosting a
         | universally accepted form of communication yourself.
        
           | BorisMelnik wrote:
           | my theory is that if rcs keeps advancing we might see
           | "texting" kind of merge with email at some point.
           | 
           | at this point RCS and email are pretty similar on paper.
        
             | WorldMaker wrote:
             | RCS is incredibly centralized. More than half of the phone
             | carriers decided it was too complicated to run their own
             | RCS servers and so just sub-contract them to a Google
             | subsidiary (Jibe).
        
               | jprjr_ wrote:
               | To be fair that seems to be the path email is going down.
               | Most businesses don't want run their own email and just
               | use one of two big providers.
        
         | BadBadJellyBean wrote:
         | Do you have any suggestions on how to fix email?
         | 
         | From my perspective all attempts at fixing anything broke
         | something for smaller senders. Today if you want to host a mail
         | server you can set up everything correctly (SPF, DKIM, DMARC)
         | and your email still lands in the spam folder because you have
         | not enough reputation. There are whole IP address segments that
         | a flat out prohibited from participating.
         | 
         | Email is designed to be a distributed system. That means new
         | standards can not really be added without breaking most of the
         | systems. We still don't have mandatory transport encryption. So
         | I don't see how to fix anything but to improve spam filtering
         | and accept that it will be imperfect.
        
         | PurpleRamen wrote:
         | There have been many fixes over the decades, but it's hard to
         | change the fundamentals of something widely-used.
        
         | pizzafeelsright wrote:
         | Email is fixed by avoiding the usage. I only check my email for
         | password resets and bank notifications. I never send email.
         | Every other channel of communication with anyone outside of
         | work is a text message.
        
       | 3form wrote:
       | To me, the fact that the author of the article is the author of
       | de_dust2 is the real highlight! For those who don't know, it's
       | the most popular map ever in Counter Strike, and I expect so it
       | remains to this day.
       | 
       | This is funny, as I always imagined these things to be made by
       | some nameless author of good old Internet, and never bothered to
       | check and look it up. Further less I expected to stumble upon it
       | by said author's random blogpost where it's not even the primary
       | topic.
        
         | pete5x5 wrote:
         | Dust2 (and Cobble, another map mentioned) is, IMO, both art and
         | genius; most of us will never make anything that brings joy to
         | so many.
         | 
         | It inspires me to work on things that I'm passionate about just
         | for fun. You never know what might come out of it!
        
         | rockbruno wrote:
         | I had seen noclip's documentary about de_dust2 featuring him
         | before but didn't piece the name together. Very happy to find
         | that he has a blog!
        
         | timrogers wrote:
         | It's an incredible map - so many fun memories!
        
         | elmean wrote:
         | G O A T Youtube doc about it
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWWhxfGq_yk
        
         | pityJuke wrote:
         | He also had blogs about those maps:
         | https://www.johnsto.co.uk/design/
        
         | jnettome wrote:
         | I love your work! Thanks for the huuuuge work on de_dust2!
        
       | dmd wrote:
       | I'm always stunned at how good GMail's spam filtering is, at
       | least for me. I've been using the same email address since 1996 -
       | that's 30 years now - and posting it with absolutely no thought
       | to spam protection all over the place.
       | 
       | I get ~1000 spams per day. About 1-2 end up in inbox. Every so
       | often I do go through my spam, and while it's possible I've
       | missed something, I generally find less than 1 false positive a
       | month and it's never anything especially important.
        
         | nozzlegear wrote:
         | I've been a Fastmail customer for years and have been pretty
         | happy with their spam filtering too. Anything that does get
         | through either gets a custom rule to send it to the shadow
         | realm, or gets sent to a special "Learn spam" folder that I set
         | up which will train the spam filter on that message.
        
           | simgoh wrote:
           | Have you noticed decreases over time by sending thigns to the
           | "Learn Spam" folder? I'm a relatively new Fastmail customer -
           | I setup a domain for some family accounts that I can manage
           | on behalf of my aging family members so it's not receiving a
           | lot of email _yet_ but I expect it to in the future.
        
             | nozzlegear wrote:
             | I have noticed it for sure. The default spam filter catches
             | most of what I'd consider spam, but the Learn Spam feature
             | is needed for things that get through because they _look_
             | legitimate. For example, I get a lot of those weird
             | "You're an American, I'm from [China, India, etc.], we can
             | make a lot of money if you go to all the
             | interviews/meetings and then let me do all the work" kind
             | of emails. They look like normal correspondence (maybe they
             | are) so they occasionally end up in my inbox. When they do,
             | I send them to the "Learn Spam" folder, and the next time I
             | check my actual Spam folder I'll find that Fastmail caught
             | several more just like it and sent them straight there.
        
           | encom wrote:
           | Fastmail here too, and my email address is older than Gmail,
           | and probably older than a significant portion of HN posters.
           | Fastmails spam filter just works. I get a few false negatives
           | per month, and some months zero. I've set it to /dev/null the
           | most obvious spam, and I can't recall the last false
           | positive. It's happened, but extremely rarely. Google spam
           | filter is not unique or magical.
           | 
           | And I never liked Gmail the client. It's not as godawful as
           | Outlook, nothing even comes close, but it always gets in my
           | way and does things in weird Googly ways. I'll stick with
           | Kmail, thanks.
        
         | WorldMaker wrote:
         | I've started to question if GMail's spam folder is marketing
         | more than substance. I've used the same primary email address
         | for nearly the same number of decades. The time I saw the
         | "most" spam in a spam folder was only while it was hosted on
         | Google Workspace. Actually trying to skim through those "1000s
         | per day" a lot of them seemed suspect in strange ways (why was
         | this even delivered anywhere?) and some of them even seemed
         | like Google just dumping random ad copy from legitimate search
         | ads into the folder.
         | 
         | (Also it says a lot that right now my two biggest sources of
         | daily spam are Google Calendar Notifications and Random
         | Firebase Accounts. Both of those further leave me questioning
         | if Google's approach to spam filtering is sincere.)
        
           | dhosek wrote:
           | I've had the same gmail address since it was first announced.
           | It also gets email forwarded to it from another ancient email
           | address that I used to self-host and that still gets
           | occasional real mails. Most of the spam is addressed to that
           | other address.
           | 
           | Just took a peek at my spam folder: 207 messages going back
           | to March 18th, two false positives (both from mailing lists),
           | but nothing critical. I think maybe I've seen one spam
           | message across all my accounts in my inbox. Their filters
           | benefit from a huge set of trainers on their data.
           | 
           | (As an aside, I would note that some newer addresses that I
           | publish naked on some websites that I maintain get very
           | little spam (14 messages between the two accounts in the same
           | timeframe, most of which are from a single sender who decided
           | that they should send me their press releases without any
           | means of opting out.)
        
       | freediddy wrote:
       | de_dust... such good times! A perfectly designed map where
       | everyone knew what the chokepoints were and what the best
       | strategies were but the outcomes between equal opponents was
       | never guaranteed. That's what makes a perfect playing field!
       | 
       | I recently got my older kid and his friends hooked on CS2 via
       | steam. I'm considering having a "dads vs kids" tourney because
       | we're at that cross section where all the dads have played CS2
       | and now some of the kids are getting old enough and good enough
       | to be competitive.
        
         | sonofhans wrote:
         | Careful. The crossover from "I'm showing my kid CS2" to "I'm
         | getting easily deleted by my kid in CS2" is pretty fast :)
        
           | freediddy wrote:
           | My nephew who is in his early 20s beat me at Madden so badly
           | that I quit. It wasn't that he just beat me, I couldn't score
           | against him at all, and I consider myself a decent Madden
           | player. I've been playing that game since the times I was
           | changing his diapers and babysitting him. It was so
           | humiliating that I haven't touched the game since.
        
       | dhosek wrote:
       | Oh man, the ILOVEYOU worm--I remember getting that from a former
       | co-worker (who I was pretty sure was not secretly in love with
       | me) and asking him who he got it from that he opened the
       | attachment and he sheepishly identified a female co-worker who as
       | it turned out had been interested in dating me but I was already
       | dating someone at the time. I look back at how stuff was set up
       | in 1999-2000 and man, we were so trusting of the world then.
        
       | siruwastaken wrote:
       | I'm probably showing my age here, but did these email worms
       | largely die out due to spam filtering, or did the email programs
       | just get better protections against viruses that made it more
       | difficult to exploit? The only email "viruses" I have come
       | accross today are actual humans accidentally replying "reply all"
       | to a legitimate email.
        
         | jprjr_ wrote:
         | The answer is yes, to all of it.
         | 
         | Email providers have better spam filtering, some have strict
         | rules about attaching any kind of executable code to an email
         | (as in - you just can't).
         | 
         | Email clients are always getting updated, stricter about
         | validating content before showing it, etc.
        
           | encom wrote:
           | And the internet stopped using Outlook Express.
        
       | buserror wrote:
       | I got fired off pair.com because I had a wildcard email, and was
       | receiving (and to my credit, discarding) _millions_ of emails...
       | a day... on my personal domain. Whoops.
       | 
       | I still use my super optimized c++ email filter to this day, 25
       | years later. Beats anything else I ever tried.
        
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