[HN Gopher] The Australian government has announced gambling adv...
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       The Australian government has announced gambling advertising
       reforms
        
       Author : gostsamo
       Score  : 52 points
       Date   : 2026-04-02 18:24 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.bbc.com)
        
       | babaliauskas wrote:
       | Bold move limiting gambling ads to just three per hour. Next up
       | light-touch bans on cigarettes where you can only smoke during ad
       | breaks.
        
         | angry_octet wrote:
         | The ability for Sportsbet to deluge your feed with gambling
         | remains unhindered. Their TikTok/Instagram ads are clever and
         | unrelenting.
         | 
         | As a consequence there is a quiet crisis in young people,
         | 18-30, deeply in debt, working second and third jobs so that
         | they have a bit more money to gamble.
        
         | suprjami wrote:
         | I'd strongly support a year-based ban on cigarette purchases.
         | 
         | Set the purchase birth year to the current age 18. So DOB 2008
         | if done today, if you're born 2009 or later you can't buy
         | smokes at all ever.
         | 
         | Within two generations we'd largely eliminate smoking. Within
         | three cigarettes would be amongst impossible to get. Great
         | public health initiative.
        
           | mrguyorama wrote:
           | The UK is supposedly doing exactly this. As are a few other
           | places.
        
           | asdff wrote:
           | Why stop there? Government mandated fitness programs too.
           | Government meals. Calories in and out perfectly controlled by
           | government scientists. Start getting over weight your food
           | ration is cut and you have double duty in the fitness camp.
           | Caught with illegal unaccounted for food? Straight to jail.
           | Obesity solved in probably 6 months. Trillions saved in
           | healthcare costs and hundreds of millions of early deaths
           | avoided.
        
             | andrewstuart wrote:
             | Seatbelts, speed limits, laws against property and personal
             | crime, workplace safety regulations,
             | 
             | All government overreach, eh?
        
               | asdff wrote:
               | Admittedly, I'm not arguing it any one way or another.
               | I'm just presenting what I think is perhaps an
               | interesting argument that highlights how the whole
               | concept is somewhat arbitrary and ambiguous, resting more
               | on ones personal moral positions towards a thing in
               | particular than any real underlying logical justification
               | shared across similar concepts.
        
               | sanswork wrote:
               | It's not interesting at all, you're just choosing to
               | ignore externalities.
        
             | amarcheschi wrote:
             | Smoking affects surrounding people much more than the above
        
               | asdff wrote:
               | Obesity does too. You are consuming sometimes twice as
               | many calories as what is needed to survive. You put
               | strain on medical facilities as well, and increase pooled
               | costs of healthcare. Same social ills a smoker puts on
               | you. Second hand smoke isn't really a thing anymore with
               | indoor smoking bans.
        
               | sanswork wrote:
               | Someone being obese doesn't impact my health directly.
               | Second hand smoke impacts the kids/family of smokers.
               | Second hand smoke impacts everyone walking past the front
               | of an office building.
        
               | awesome_dude wrote:
               | People that consume more are carbon sinks...
               | 
               | How ludicrous is this argument going to get?
        
             | wredcoll wrote:
             | Why stop there? Because we decided to stop there. It's
             | really that simple.
        
           | grebc wrote:
           | I smoke maybe a pack a year at best. I can't buy smokes
           | because some nuffies don't like it? Take a hike.
        
             | nkrisc wrote:
             | So it would be a small personal sacrifice for huge societal
             | benefit, and you wouldn't even do that?
        
               | InvertedRhodium wrote:
               | The societal downside of providing yet another revenue
               | stream for criminal organisations seems like it might be
               | worth taking into consideration.
        
           | toast0 wrote:
           | NZ tried that cigarette ban, but walked it back so they could
           | get juicy tax revenues.
           | https://lite.cnn.com/2023/11/28/asia/new-zealand-smoking-
           | ban...
           | 
           | Maybe split the difference and raise the purchasing age for
           | cigarettes 6 months every year. Takes longer to get to nobody
           | can smoke, but you'll get there eventually.
        
             | awesome_dude wrote:
             | The (NZ) government that changed the approach is heavily
             | loaded with Tobacco friendly Ministers - the expectation is
             | that when the government is voted out (no government lasts
             | forever) the age based approach will be bought back in.
        
             | InvertedRhodium wrote:
             | We'd just end up in the same situation as Australia - where
             | up to one third of all cigarettes consumed are purchased on
             | the black market.
        
           | denkmoon wrote:
           | Can we please not keep trying to redo prohibition. Yes it
           | costs public health. No you can't stop adults imbibing the
           | drugs they want, the only thing you can do is criminalise it
           | which makes criminals of sick people. Great work.
        
           | smelendez wrote:
           | US has gone to a minimum age of 21. I actually think that's
           | enough, along with raising the price and reducing the number
           | of places people can smoke.
           | 
           | People generally start smoking by their teens or not at all.
           | Making it hard for kids to get exposed to nicotine will stop
           | a lot of addiction.
           | 
           | Also way fewer parents have cigarettes in the house so it's
           | harder for kids to grab them at home. And there are pretty
           | strong taboos nowadays about giving random kids stuff they're
           | not supposed to have.
        
           | squigz wrote:
           | Would you support the same ban for alcohol?
        
       | NamTaf wrote:
       | Finally.
       | 
       | The deluge of gambling ads on TV during Friday night footy is
       | absolutely appalling. There's a very robust conduit for
       | normalising sports gambling through advertisements around the
       | broadcasts and it's clearly influencing young adults. I've
       | noticed a dramatic uptick in how common it is compared to when I
       | was that age.
        
         | bookofjoe wrote:
         | I nicknamed ESPN in the US EBetPN
        
         | oezi wrote:
         | I see absolutely no upside for a society to allow sports
         | betting. The tax revenues don't justify the addiction, debts
         | and devastated families.
        
           | milkytron wrote:
           | An argument I've heard is that by legalizing betting, it can
           | be more easily monitored with regulation and reduce the
           | amount of black market betting. People still bet when it's
           | illegal, it just becomes harder to track, which makes it
           | easier for gamblers to interfere with outcomes without
           | detection.
           | 
           | It sounds kind of similar to the legalization of certain
           | recreational drugs. For example, alcohol prohibition resulted
           | in a massive black market with organized criminal gangs, and
           | many places realized it's better to regulate it rather than
           | prohibit it.
           | 
           | I think for gambling, we need better regulations, and the
           | Australian government seems to think so too.
        
         | awesome_dude wrote:
         | The ads are going to continue from 8:30pm on, NRL has a game
         | starting at 8pm this evening, the gambling ads will hit just
         | before half time under this new legislation
        
       | brotchie wrote:
       | Gambling ads are to Australia what Pharmaceutical ads are to the
       | USA.
        
       | GlacierFox wrote:
       | This is all I see on ad supporteed TV at night here in the UK.
       | And half the time during the day. It's a serious problem coupled
       | with, I assume, serious lobbyists here in the UK.
        
       | Hikikomori wrote:
       | Let's hope that they don't burn someone else's house.
       | 
       | https://youtu.be/ZI3zaHUsgXg
       | 
       | https://youtu.be/jZivPIRvi0U
        
       | amarcheschi wrote:
       | I'm from italy where we have a ban.
       | 
       | Some companies now make advertisements of news websites that it
       | is clear are also part of betting companies. For example,
       | https://www.admiralbet.news/ has as other Google result the
       | betting website. However, I do have to say it is still less than
       | before and it's much better
        
       | clickety_clack wrote:
       | Ireland needs this. I don't live there anymore, but the amount of
       | ads literally everywhere you go there these days is insane.
       | 
       | Gambling ruins lives.
        
       | Apreche wrote:
       | > "Today it's gambling advertising, tomorrow it's alcohol, then
       | it's sugary drinks, fast food, critical minerals and who knows
       | what else comes next," chief executive Kai Cantwell said.
       | 
       | We have already learned our lesson. Prohibition doesn't work. But
       | advertising does work. Banning advertising also works. We should
       | allow people the freedom to participate in vice, but ban all
       | advertising for it. Anything harmful to society should not be
       | advertised. No ads for cars, guns, recreational drugs including
       | alcohol, unhealthy food, fossil fuels, or gambling.
       | 
       | Who knows what comes next Kai? Hopefully everything.
        
         | Tarsul wrote:
         | I gotta admit I laughed heartily at the quote. I expected the
         | slippery slope argument, I did not expect it to be made so
         | clumsy :)
         | 
         | btw. what followed is worse: <<He accused the government of
         | blindsiding a sector that supports 30,000 jobs and "provides
         | critical funding to sport, racing and broadcast industries".>>
         | 
         | Gambling business is not a positive force. It's not even zero
         | sum. It's a negative sum game. I hope no one is nodding along
         | to these kind of arguments, they are nonsensical.
        
         | jmyeet wrote:
         | > Prohibition doesn't work.
         | 
         | Actually, it did work [1]:
         | 
         | > Courtwright's The Age of Addiction has the statistics: "Per
         | capita consumption initially fell to 30 percent of pre-
         | Prohibition levels, before gradually increasing to 60 or 70
         | percent by 1933." That suggests a 30 percent reduction, at a
         | minimum, in consumption -- although that was less than the
         | initial effect, as people figured some ways around the law.
         | 
         | > We should allow people the freedom to participate in vice.
         | 
         | There is literally no individual upside to gambling and don't
         | say "winning". For sites like FanDuel and DraftKings, you get
         | banned or your bet sizes severelyl restricted if you
         | consistently win [2]. Why? Because it discourages the marks if
         | they don't win occasionally.
         | 
         | Suicide rate is highest among gambling addicts than any other
         | form of addiction [3]. Gambling measurably increases credit
         | score drops, debts and bankruptcies [4]. The entire business is
         | predatory.
         | 
         | At least back in the day when you had to go to a casino there
         | was some barrier to gambling. Now? Just pull out your phone.
         | 
         | [1]: https://archive.ph/l8m4E#selection-885.0-889.319
         | 
         | [2]: https://www.elitepickz.com/blog/do-sportsbooks-ban-
         | winners-a...
         | 
         | [3]: https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/problem-
         | gambl...
         | 
         | [4]: https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/online-sports-
         | gamb...
        
       | beloch wrote:
       | "TV ads from betting agencies will be capped at three per hour,
       | between 6am and 8:30pm"
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       | 
       | And thus, the ten minute Australian gambling ad was born.
        
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