[HN Gopher] Swappa.com for GrapheneOS compatible devices - Stay ...
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       Swappa.com for GrapheneOS compatible devices - Stay Away
        
       Author : OsrsNeedsf2P
       Score  : 46 points
       Date   : 2026-04-01 21:59 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (discuss.grapheneos.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (discuss.grapheneos.org)
        
       | djhope99 wrote:
       | Uh oh. I just brought a pixel 6a from Swappa, was hoping to use a
       | different os. Not arrived yet though.
        
       | laweijfmvo wrote:
       | Swappa became a no-go for me when they started making exceptions
       | to their rules for commercial sellers, justifying it by saying
       | they were inherently more reliable. For example, using stock
       | photos for multiple devices instead of the device you actually
       | receive. All of three of these phones, based on the seller names,
       | were those reliable sellers.
        
       | glhaynes wrote:
       | Bummer of an experience. About a month ago I bought an unlocked
       | 8a from a seller on Swappa and had no issue getting GrapheneOS
       | (which works well!) on it.
        
       | hmry wrote:
       | > we are unfortunately not able to guarantee bootloader
       | unlocking, as it is not feasible for us to search through
       | thousands of devices in order to find one that is
       | 
       | Ohhhh, is that how it works? Maybe I should try that next time.
       | Instead of selling broken hardware as "NOT TESTED, AS IS, PARTS
       | MACHINE" I should sell them as "100% working!" and when someone
       | asks, I'll tell them "sorry, it's not feasible to search through
       | all devices and find the working ones"
        
       | deeplowdock wrote:
       | I wonder why almost no one in these GrapheneOS praise topic
       | mentions that you won't be able to pay with your phone, and often
       | even bank apps refuse to install on it - it was a deal breaker
       | for me personally, and now I'm back under Google umbrella :<
        
         | cyanydeez wrote:
         | Paying with your phone just seems like one of those separation
         | of concerns problem. I'm sure you have backup forms, and cash,
         | etc, but there's something about not having to worry about the
         | multinefarious capabilities of my phone if it's not in my
         | posession.
        
           | deeplowdock wrote:
           | You could then separate the audio system from your car and
           | drive around with a boombox
        
             | NewJazz wrote:
             | Difference is a plastic card that is lighter and smaller
             | than the phone is just as effective as the phone is for
             | payments. When it comes to audio, a car stereo is going to
             | be much more convenient and brtter quality than a boombox
             | or bluetooth. That said, i did know someone with an older
             | car who used a bluetooth speaker instead of their stereo,
             | so they could connect their phone audio.
        
             | zephen wrote:
             | I forget. What are the security implications of having your
             | car play your music again?
        
               | thejazzman wrote:
               | Pretty sure Jeep was hacked via their infotainment system
               | and remotely driven (by researcher Charlie Miller)
               | 
               | So it's actually kind of a real thing
        
         | ramon156 wrote:
         | Fair point, but how much extra effort is it to put a credit
         | card between your phone? I'm still under the Google umbrella as
         | well, but this would be my first issue solved.
        
         | Pacers31Colts18 wrote:
         | Not every banking app is that way. Mine worked.
         | 
         | I also dont think everything needs to be an app.
        
         | BLKNSLVR wrote:
         | I gets mentioned on every GrapheneOS thread I've read.
        
         | hnuser435 wrote:
         | Limitations are on the website -
         | https://grapheneos.org/articles/ I don't care about google
         | pay/wallet or android auto. My credit union's app does work
         | fine, but even if it didn't, I'd still use GOS. It's great.
        
           | McDev wrote:
           | FWIW I've tested Android Auto before with sandboxed Google
           | Play, works fine.
        
         | throawayonthe wrote:
         | this is the main point of discussion under every grapheneos
         | thread though...
         | 
         | also my bank apps install, but yes, no tap to pay
        
       | convexly wrote:
       | Did you try disputing through your payment method or is that not
       | an option with how Swappa processes things?
        
       | erelong wrote:
       | Swappa has been "ok" in my experience
       | 
       | I had issues with receiving incompatible "variants" of compatible
       | devices when shopping for used phone for custom roms
        
       | yogthos wrote:
       | I just bought an official Pixel 9 to install GrapheneOS, and the
       | process couldn't be simpler. Their webusb installer is extremely
       | polished. You just plug your phone in, click through a few steps,
       | and you're done. There's absolutely no reason to bother looking
       | for a phone with GrapheneOS already preinstalled.
       | 
       | As a side note, I've been using it for a few months now, and it
       | works great. All the apps I use run on it just fine. Battery life
       | is great, and you don't have a bunch of cruft from Google running
       | on your device. Can highly recommend for anybody looking for a
       | phone you actually own.
        
         | NewJazz wrote:
         | As a note, swappa isn't selling phones with grapheneos
         | preinstalled. It is selling used phones, you would still have
         | to install gos.
        
         | kay_o wrote:
         | This is not the related of preinstalled. Swappa is selling
         | bootloader permanently locked forever phones as bootloader
         | unlockable
        
         | OsrsNeedsf2P wrote:
         | I'm trying to go through Swappa to help reduce waste and save a
         | bit of money. Unfortunately, when I decided to go second-hand,
         | I didn't expect issues like this.
        
       | beej71 wrote:
       | I was just about to buy something from them, but maybe not now. I
       | want a used pixel--where is the best marketplace for that?
        
         | troyvit wrote:
         | I've gotten used pixels off of ebay more than once and never
         | had a problem. I feel like if it was that simple swappa.com
         | wouldn't exist though. Maybe I've been lucky?
        
       | rglover wrote:
       | I've had good experiences with gazelle.com for used devices but
       | never tried to load GrapheneOS on anything from them.
        
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