[HN Gopher] Arm releases first in-house chip, with Meta as debut...
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Arm releases first in-house chip, with Meta as debut customer
Author : goplayoutside
Score : 99 points
Date : 2026-03-24 23:34 UTC (3 days ago)
(HTM) web link (www.cnbc.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.cnbc.com)
| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| [dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47506251
| checker659 wrote:
| That is not a dupe
| Eufrat wrote:
| I think it is. The launch announcement explicitly says the
| same thing, "Meta is our lead partner and customer".
| checker659 wrote:
| On HN, dupe means duplicate discussion for the same link
| password4321 wrote:
| > _duplicate discussion for the same link_
|
| I hate to be the bearer of bad news but this is incorrect
| per moderator dang at
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43765252:
|
| > _On HN, dupeness is more a question of whether the
| underlying story is substantively the same or not_
|
| I believe dang's most recent in-depth explanation can be
| found here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43738815
| and you can search for more at https://hn.algolia.com?que
| ry=author%3Adang+dupe&sort=byDate&...
|
| Submissions of the same exact URL are automatically
| merged into the previous discussion server side, and are
| discouraged for about a year.
| checker659 wrote:
| But one is a press release from ARM and the other is a
| report from CNBC. How are the two the same?
|
| By your logic, there shouldn't be a gazillion posts about
| Apple Events the day it happens.
| geerlingguy wrote:
| Apple usually announces like 3-5 new products, each in a
| distinct market / audience fit. Arm announced one product
| for one customer.
|
| But sometimes two long discussions ensue on separate days
| for one event/product/announcement, if it's big enough.
| Often the discussions are merged later on. No big deal.
| mbreese wrote:
| And even for big news events (which, this might qualify
| as), people can miss the first discussion. Even if the
| discussions end up merged later on, the different
| discussions can still be fruitful.
|
| Which is why, even if it is a duplicate conversation, the
| mods generally allow things to play out organically.
| There's either going to be more discussion above, or
| people have already said their peace and we move on.
| password4321 wrote:
| It's not my logic, it's the logic of the moderator(s) of
| HN. Here's more, cut+paste from the link previously
| provided (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43738815):
|
| > _I agree--they 're not all the same story. On the other
| hand: stories in an ongoing sequence usually lead to
| repetitive discussion, which is bad for HN_
| swores wrote:
| When the two submissions aren't the exact same link, it
| becomes a subjective question as to whether they're
| similar enough to count as a dupe or not. They aren't
| automatically always a dupe just because the overall
| general topic is the same, but nor are they automatically
| considered not a dupe just because they're not identical.
|
| In this case the consensus (that I agree with) certainly
| seems to be that they're similar enough to be considered
| a dupe. Though that doesn't force the moderators to have
| to treat it like a dupe and merge comments.
| forinti wrote:
| Arm came from Acorn and Acorn did make the first ARM CPUs for
| their computers, so it's not really the first time they do this.
| fweimer wrote:
| They made the Morello research CPUs, but did not sell them.
|
| The Acorn/Arm history is somewhat complicated due to the Arm
| IPO, I think.
| nutjob2 wrote:
| One can split hairs about the corporate responsibility, but I
| personally bought a VLSI ARM chip in the 90s. VLSI were one
| of the original 3 partners (along with Apple and Acorn) who
| owned the newly formed ARM corp and were the first to produce
| them (for Apple).
| daneel_w wrote:
| The Acorn Archimedes came with Acorn branded CPUs (the "ARM250"
| IIRC) already in the late 80s. I can't recall what company made
| the chips for ARM at that time, but in the later Archimedes
| models it was VLSI.
| rwmj wrote:
| VLSI from the very start according to
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture_family#ARM1
| daneel_w wrote:
| A quick Google image search shows me ARM250TG chips, Acorn-
| ARM branded, from "MITEL" and "GPS".
| mrbluecoat wrote:
| "in-house" is misleading
|
| > Like nearly all fabless AI chipmakers, Arm currently
| manufactures its CPU at Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing
| Company 's fabrication plants.
| alain94040 wrote:
| It's not misleading for people in the industry. ARM so far was
| selling IP (Verilog source code) that other chip makers would
| include in a full chip design.
|
| Now ARM for the first time (this century) is making its own
| chip [design], which like most of its customers, is
| manufactured by a fab like TSMC.
|
| The title is clear.
| sgerenser wrote:
| Similarly Apple doesn't manufacture any of its own computers
| or iPhones (it's all contract manufacturers like FoxConn) but
| it would clearly be wrong to say "Apple doesn't make
| computers! Foxconn does!"
| sifar wrote:
| It's called fables.
| drob518 wrote:
| This is going to be a strategic challenge for ARM unless they are
| going to focus on chips that nobody else wants to make. And given
| the AI focus, that doesn't seem to be the case. I would think
| that the RISC-V folks would be salivating at the prospect of
| flipping some existing ARM licensees to RISC-V.
| wmf wrote:
| _focus on chips that nobody else wants to make_
|
| That's what happened here. Meta wants a Neoverse V3 CPU but no
| one will make it for them. So Arm has to make it.
| leptons wrote:
| ARM does not have their own fab, someone else is doing the
| actual making. ARM helped Meta design the thing.
| tsukikage wrote:
| Meta bought a RISC-V startup six months ago:
| https://hn.algolia.com/?q=meta+rivos
|
| Guess at the end of the day, no-one ever got fired for building
| ARM.
| kaladin-jasnah wrote:
| How does this fit with Meta's decision to acquire Rivos?
| brcmthrowaway wrote:
| acquihire?
| 3eb7988a1663 wrote:
| After Amazon, Google, and Apple all have had successes with in
| house ARM, I had naively assumed Meta would do the same. Given
| the speeds with which they have been developed, it must not be
| "that hard" to spin up a chip. You could have easily framed it as
| a long-term plan - custom chips for the Occlus.
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