[HN Gopher] 60 Minutes Havana Syndrome report finds U.S. governm...
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       60 Minutes Havana Syndrome report finds U.S. government tested
       energy weapon
        
       Author : jonas21
       Score  : 37 points
       Date   : 2026-03-09 19:39 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.cbsnews.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.cbsnews.com)
        
       | tencentshill wrote:
       | The schizophrenics are getting more reasonable by the day. They
       | ARE listening through your phone. There might actually be a
       | government vehicle following you without identification with
       | intent to abduct (ICE), and now they might actually be tormenting
       | you with invisible energy beams.
        
         | marysminefnuf wrote:
         | I used to laugh at qanon lol but they were proven right.
         | pedophiles run our government.
        
           | scarecrowbob wrote:
           | I spent a lot of time (as a former lit PhD student with an
           | interest in narrative and identity) paying attention to the
           | Q-related (and adjacent) stories.
           | 
           | On one hand, once folks are freed from orthodox thought, they
           | might point out some very useful and interesting ideas about
           | the world.
           | 
           | On the other hand, (assuming I just haven't figure out how to
           | observe astral-projecting bodies, lumerians, the long-term
           | benefits of consuming adrenochrome and gross manipulation of
           | the electoral system) there are some significant differences
           | between what the actual claims made by the Q-folk and what
           | the actual documentation brings out.
           | 
           | Importantly, the Q folks have been horrifically wrong about a
           | number of things as well. It wasn't hard to sort out the
           | (usually fairly pedestrian) truths, and people were doing
           | that work even when Q was in its heyday. Remember that the
           | reality (as I understand it) that wealthy men do abusive
           | things doesn't need a secret satanic cabal to explain it.
           | 
           | To claim the q folks were right is roughly (in my
           | understanding) equivalent to claiming that the batshit crazy
           | experiments done under programs like Midnight Climax actually
           | led to "mind control" in the fine grained way that the folks
           | paying for those programs speculated to be possible- that
           | shit was dumb and anyone who has some moderate experience
           | with psychedelics and any amount of maturity should be able
           | to clock that without repeating the "experiments".
        
           | DoesntMatter22 wrote:
           | Is there any actual evidence for this?
        
             | ekjhgkejhgk wrote:
             | Have you read any of Epstein files, or any reporting about
             | them?
             | 
             | Serious question - you need to give us where you currently
             | are if you want a productive conversation.
        
               | coldtea wrote:
               | The parts that are not hearsay from anonymous sources,
               | which basically means any paranoid story that the FBI
               | still has to document, or blackmailers and grifters with
               | plenty of holes and inconsistencies to their stories, are
               | about about elites partying with 17 and above year olds
               | who where otherwise active already in related "work".
               | Still shady, but hardly what's being reported in the
               | sensationalist coverage, which ranges from abductions and
               | rings to acid baths for murdered victims.
               | 
               | https://www.mtracey.net/p/we-need-to-talk-about-virginia
               | 
               | https://www.mtracey.net/p/epstein-survivors-refusing-
               | questio...
               | 
               | https://www.mtracey.net/p/i-found-the-real-epstein-
               | coverup
        
               | sickofparadox wrote:
               | Don't forget the people claiming that Epstein ate people
               | because of his weird emails about beef jerky.
        
               | coldtea wrote:
               | Yeah or stupid jokes like this taken to mean actual
               | torture:
               | 
               | https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/1r1nuv7/ice_cre
               | am_...
        
           | pixelready wrote:
           | It would seem the best place to hide a real conspiracy is
           | underneath a fake one.
        
         | heavyset_go wrote:
         | A common hallucination and delusion is that _someone_ is
         | beaming thoughts into the afflicted 's head, causing some to
         | believe that there are "voice to skull" devices deployed to
         | torment them.
         | 
         | Well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effect
        
       | jimrandomh wrote:
       | For the benefit of people who read only the headline and not the
       | article:
       | 
       | The story here is that the US government captured Russia's energy
       | weapon, which Russia has been using against US personnel for a
       | decade, and tested it to determine what it does (it causes brain
       | damage). This story does _not_ claim that the US has developed a
       | weapon like this themselves.
        
         | joshribakoff wrote:
         | It does claim the US went to great lengths to dismiss the
         | victims for a decade, while being in possession of the device.
         | That raises the question of what incentives the US would have
         | to deny its existence. To me, that was the story.
        
           | DoesntMatter22 wrote:
           | It doesn't say they had it in their possession for the last
           | decade. It says they tested it for about a year. Not clear
           | when they would have gotten it.
        
       | rozab wrote:
       | I've read reports about Havana Syndrome before and remain
       | thoroughly unconvinced. The locations vary wildly, the symptoms
       | vary wildly and can be explained by normal medical phenomena in a
       | way Occam would find more agreeable.
       | 
       | Look at their 'smoking gun' evidence here:
       | 
       | >He tracked down an email, what he considers a receipt, for
       | services provided to the Russian government by a member of Unit
       | 29155 for "potential capabilities of non-lethal acoustic
       | weapons."
       | 
       | Acoustic crowd control weapons are not mysterious, there are
       | people on YouTube building and testing them! American companies
       | will sell them to any oppressive government around the world (I
       | believe the ones used against Serbian protestors were American).
       | Yet this description contradicts speculation about microwaves
       | just a bit further down in the article.
        
         | burnt-resistor wrote:
         | Yup. There's no hard evidence and so it still comes off as mass
         | psychosis / psychosomatic / placebo effect with wildly-varying
         | "symptoms". Surely, there would be some sizable "weapon"
         | consuming massive amounts of energy nearby that would be
         | visible and captured on video if it were true.
        
           | sjkoelle wrote:
           | article explains that it is not sizable
        
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