[HN Gopher] Lock Scroll with a Vengeance
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       Lock Scroll with a Vengeance
        
       Author : etothet
       Score  : 60 points
       Date   : 2026-03-04 03:42 UTC (3 days ago)
        
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       | oleganza wrote:
       | TV examples show that Apple simply has done their scrolling
       | right, while everyone else did not work out the necessary
       | details.
        
         | IneffablePigeon wrote:
         | Except the other examples used to work like Apple's and have
         | switched to the scroll locked implementation.
         | 
         | I think I prefer that mode to be honest, because it leaves you
         | in a consistent place for up/down to take you to instead of it
         | potentially depending where your selection is in the row.
        
           | vessenes wrote:
           | Yeah the real pain is button pressing down / up / back in the
           | TV UI. Definitely a fun grab bag of possible outcomes! I
           | don't think there's a good solution without a militant UI
           | person in charge of the whole shebang - some radical
           | simplification would likely be needed.
           | 
           | The reality is that the click ipod was much better at
           | scrolling media than the Apple TV is. And I own a lot of
           | Apple TVs - I think it's a good device. But it was far faster
           | to scroll through media 20 years ago.
        
             | unpixel8 wrote:
             | you can navigate lists (and scrub media playback) on Apple
             | TV using the iPod click wheel gesture!
             | 
             | > Circle your finger around the clickpad ring for more
             | precise control (silver remote only).
             | 
             | https://support.apple.com/guide/tv/navigate-apple-
             | tv-4k-atvb...
        
               | vessenes wrote:
               | I know. If you have an old iPod, try it. I stand by my
               | review; I think it's probably 3x as much latency.
        
       | sheept wrote:
       | I guess a business reason for scroll lock in the TV UIs is that
       | it immediately shows more recommendations as you scroll right,
       | which I suppose could increase engagement.
        
       | renewiltord wrote:
       | Scrolling on TV strangely annoying. To see any more options on
       | Apple TV you have to go all the way to right and then start going
       | actually to the right. On Netflix can't search easily. Have to
       | bring everything back to left most first.
        
       | peterlada wrote:
       | I was today's years old when I learned what Scroll Lock was used
       | for. And I've not had a keyboard with it for about 15 years.
        
         | PNewling wrote:
         | You and me both. This was a surprisingly elucidating post about
         | something that has essentially hasn't been an option for me in
         | a long time, hah.
        
       | codeulike wrote:
       | My pc, maybe because of the external keyboard I'm using,
       | occasionally decides that Scroll Lock is On and then Excel
       | becomes unusable ... The solution is to bring up the On Screen
       | Keyboard and toggle the virtual scroll lock key ...
        
         | netsharc wrote:
         | I wonder how that happens? Do you press Ctrl-Home a lot (to go
         | to the very start of a document), and maybe you missed and hit
         | Fn-Home, if you have a Dell OEM keyboard https://external-
         | content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F... , Fn-Home
         | toggles Scroll Lock...
        
       | stephbook wrote:
       | God how i hate these unresponsive TV interfaces. Even the apple
       | TV feels slow and like it renders at half a frame per second.
       | 
       | Instead of selecting something you already see, it feels like
       | you're discovering something that's slow to render.
       | 
       | Imagine your PCs desktop was like this, or your phone's app list.
       | Click once per "next selection." It would drive me mad.
        
         | jitl wrote:
         | tv ui favors larger elements and longer transitions to make
         | focus & change more legible for distant viewing. at 1m-3m
         | people have a harder time following the ui. tv browsing is also
         | much more frequently a group activity, where one person is
         | pushing buttons and so knows what transition will happen, but
         | others on the couch need to follow the activity too. different
         | modality & ui priority compared to phone or desktop which are
         | much closer to the face and much more personal/single player.
        
       | skerit wrote:
       | I hate the new way scrolling works in the Youtube & Netflix apps.
       | So janky.
        
       | vivzkestrel wrote:
       | - bro you really need to ramp the ux of your blog
       | 
       | - i just wanted to take a quick glance at all the posts to see if
       | anything catches my eye
       | 
       | - https://unsung.aresluna.org/all
       | 
       | - https://unsung.aresluna.org/archive
       | 
       | - https://unsung.aresluna.org/archives
       | 
       | - https://unsung.aresluna.org/posts
       | 
       | - https://unsung.aresluna.org/blog
       | 
       | - none of the above links work, a lot of dudes sharing blogs on
       | HN absolutely do not check if they have a page where all the
       | articles are seen in one glance (titles only)
       | 
       | - bro look at this other dude https://xnacly.me/posts/ his post
       | was right below yours, look how beautifully this page has put up
       | titles of every post with tags no less! cant we have something
       | like this for your blog
        
         | zahlman wrote:
         | Did you try https://unsung.aresluna.org/ (which is linked from
         | the logo in the header)?
        
       | amadeuspagel wrote:
       | The videos on this site don't work for me. I see two related in
       | errors in Chrome Dev Tools:
       | 
       | Uncaught (in promise) AbortError: The play() request was
       | interrupted by a call to pause().
       | 
       | Uncaught (in promise) NotSupportedError: Failed to load because
       | no supported source was found.
        
         | MathMonkeyMan wrote:
         | I use firefox and have my autoplay policy set to aggressive no.
         | There's an icon left of the address bar that shows a crossed-
         | out play button when scripted video is prevented. If I click on
         | that play button, I can select "always allow," and the videos
         | will be allowed to play. That's all it took for me.
         | 
         | I set that option one day when a news website would autoplay a
         | video every time I scrolled (I think it was the New York
         | Times). This sent me into a fit of rage and now I prefer the
         | inconvenience of having to reselect "allow all" almost every
         | time I visit a site with video.
        
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