[HN Gopher] Billy bookshelves as a retro motherboard "rack"
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       Billy bookshelves as a retro motherboard "rack"
        
       Author : ingve
       Score  : 58 points
       Date   : 2026-03-01 08:24 UTC (4 days ago)
        
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       | Kenji wrote:
       | Nice fire safety and grounding. Wood is ideal for both. They
       | should build data centers like this.
        
         | wongarsu wrote:
         | How exactly do you envision this going wrong?
         | 
         | The rack itself won't hold electrostatic charge, and if the
         | devices themselves want to be grounded they can be grounded
         | through their power supply
         | 
         | And wood isn't _that_ easy to get to burn unless you turn it
         | into small particles first
        
         | tokai wrote:
         | That shelf is more glue and fire retardant than it is wood. Its
         | also really bad as a book shelf so it might still be superior
         | in this role than the intended one.
        
           | avian wrote:
           | As a current user of the said item of furniture I'm curious
           | what makes it really bad as a book shelf.
           | 
           | It's a shelf and in the past few years it has not yet failed
           | at holding my books.
        
             | tokai wrote:
             | The shelves will start to sag substantially if you fill
             | them.
        
               | Ekaros wrote:
               | Can't say I can observe this with a few years old ones.
               | Even with shelves having reasonable amount of magazines
               | or bigger books.
        
             | shagie wrote:
             | It depends on the loading. If you've got it 9-12" high
             | apart and are putting paperbacks on there... that shouldn't
             | be a problem.
             | 
             | However, when the shelf becomes multiples of that, then
             | people start putting hardcover volumes or laying the book
             | flat and stacking them high within the shelf.
             | 
             | It won't necessarily _fail_ , but it can substantially sag
             | with heavier loads.
             | 
             | This is an issue for boardgammers who are after larger and
             | heavier shelf spaces which is why the Kallax shelving is
             | much preferred. I'll also note that Ivar shelving is solid
             | wood rather than particleboard.
        
         | relaxing wrote:
         | I once worked in a hardware lab that used wire shelving for
         | holding arrays of running machines, and a bad ground running
         | through one chassis caused anyone who touched the shelf to get
         | shocked by something very close to line voltage.
         | 
         | I'm more worried about heat dissipation though.
        
       | pch00 wrote:
       | I really don't want to be too much of a downer, but is this
       | really just an HN post about someone putting something on a
       | shelf?
        
         | GJim wrote:
         | You're not wrong.
         | 
         | How in gods name this article made it to the front page of HN
         | is a mystery.
        
           | pwg wrote:
           | Because enough readers upvoted it to cause it to appear
           | there.
        
             | relaxing wrote:
             | Any ideas on that mystery, then? Since you've got your
             | finger on the pulse around here.
        
               | pwg wrote:
               | There's no mystery. The way _any_ story makes the front
               | page is enough users upvote it from the  "new" page for
               | it to appear there.
               | 
               | So the answer to the question of "how did it make it
               | there" is exactly what I said, enough upvoted it that it
               | made it to the front page.
               | 
               | As to "why" those folks upvoted it, well, on that I have
               | no idea.
        
             | GJim wrote:
             | You <-----> The Point.
        
             | iso1631 wrote:
             | 16 points in 2 hours?
        
               | paganel wrote:
               | What can I say, I'm a Billy simp, there's one just behind
               | me as I'm writing this comment and for about a year now
               | I've been forcing myself to buy a new one to put it on
               | the right-side of my current desk (sometimes I'm too lazy
               | for my own good, as in this case). So just seeing Billy
               | in the title and as the actual subject of the blog-post
               | made me upvote the submission, apparently I'm not alone
               | in this.
        
           | criddell wrote:
           | Bots are in to stuff like this.
        
           | coldpie wrote:
           | Hey at least it's not Yet Another Fucking LLM Article.
        
           | jvanderbot wrote:
           | Literally today I was thinking about how to organize all my
           | out of date computers in my room, and thinking about building
           | a cabinet or shelves.
           | 
           | Oddly poignant. I can't be the only one.
        
         | voidUpdate wrote:
         | I mean, you can probably reduce any HN article to something
         | that doesnt sound worthy of being on here if you want
        
           | relaxing wrote:
           | Sure, but this truly is just about putting a motherboard on a
           | shelf.
           | 
           | They couldn't even be bothered to get a good photo of it ffs.
        
           | close04 wrote:
           | This article proactively saves you the time and effort to
           | reduce. It is really just that. Man realizes his object fits
           | on shelf.
        
         | kotaKat wrote:
         | If the 486es were running OpenClaw then everyone would be
         | losing their minds.
        
         | chairmansteve wrote:
         | Well, you know how messy most hackers are..... my mom would
         | like this article.
        
         | EvanAnderson wrote:
         | You could start a giant company using some computers on
         | shelves:
         | https://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/10266216...
        
       | jl6 wrote:
       | What you're really here for is the Lack Rack:
       | 
       | https://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/LackRack
        
         | nerdjon wrote:
         | I keep wanting to build this but I have seen people talking
         | online that they changed the legs and they are now hollow and
         | not really suitable for this.
         | 
         | That has made me very cautious to use this for any serious
         | amount of mounting.
         | 
         | Edit: Apparently there is a section on that page about it, but
         | does not give a ton of confidence that it won't give me a lot
         | of issues.
        
           | Arubis wrote:
           | The tops of the posts are still solid. You could mount a
           | single rack unit and be okay, but fully populating lack legs
           | is not recommended. Cute way to hide a network switch,
           | though.
        
           | ralferoo wrote:
           | I have an old Lack (20 years) and while I've never used it as
           | a rack, it'd just been retired from under the TV as I got a
           | new one with a wider base. I notice that even though it's
           | never been moved much, it doesn't feel very stable any more
           | and I wouldn't trust it with a rack of heavy equipment,
           | especially with HDDs that could suffer catastrophic failure
           | if they fell. That said, attaching brackets would sure up the
           | legs a bit. Ideally you'd want to attack brackets at the back
           | as well I guess.
           | 
           | I also had a Billy sat next to it, and did similar to this
           | (but again not racked), with all of my AV gear inside. The
           | door was great, it'd make any status lights diffuse and so
           | they wouldn't interrupt watching a film in the dark (and my
           | old Sky box used to have annoying blue LEDs with an animation
           | when playing back a recorded show), but at the same time
           | remote controls still worked through the glass. Literally
           | best of both worlds. I cut a big hole in the back for cables,
           | which also served well for airflow. I considered adding a
           | fan, but never needed it. I suspect there would be issues
           | with negative pressure doing that though.
        
             | retired wrote:
             | The wide LACK (90x55) has a lower weight rating than the
             | square one (55x55). 20 versus 25 kilogram.
        
           | marginalia_nu wrote:
           | I swear every year that passes it sounds more plausible that
           | IKEA has a bunch of people chewing on wood and putting it
           | together into furniture like they were building wasp nests.
           | Their stuff makes frickin' papier-mache look like a steel
           | girder in comparison.
        
         | bombcar wrote:
         | LackRack is cute in that it works and fits, but the real home
         | datacenter is wire shelving - one of THOSE bad boys can support
         | hundreds of pounds AND have good airflow (and sneaky cable
         | routing!).
        
           | saalweachter wrote:
           | If you trawl auction sites for business liquidations, you can
           | also usually pick up an actual rack for pennies on the
           | dollar.
           | 
           | It doesn't even have to be a tech business; most random
           | offices have a small rack in a closet somewhere with some
           | networking equipment on it, and the whole thing usually sells
           | as one lot to anyone with $50 and a screwdriver to remove the
           | equipment from the site.
        
             | bombcar wrote:
             | They're not hard to find as you say (you can even find them
             | at scrap yards and such) - though then you can find the fun
             | of getting the right mounting hardware to actually PUT
             | things in the rack (and you get to learn the difference
             | between telco racks (very common) and server racks
             | (somewhat less common).
        
               | saalweachter wrote:
               | If you've accidentally purchased a telco rack it won't be
               | ideal, but modifying it into a server rack is going to
               | yield a better rack than a coffee table or bookshelf.
        
               | bombcar wrote:
               | Yeah for a lot of things these days I actually prefer a
               | telco rack, as you're unlikely to be shelving giant rack
               | mount chassis and UPS as much as you used to.
        
       | layer8 wrote:
       | Reminds me of the LACK that is commonly used for server racks:
       | https://www.google.com/search?udm=web&q=lack+rack
        
       | ralferoo wrote:
       | One really good alternative to racks is a flight case with
       | integrated 4U / 8U rack. They're meant for musicians transporting
       | audio equipment, so can be a lot expensive, but they're nice with
       | front and rear panels that pop off, and are very portable. The
       | bigger ones (12U and 16U) often come with wheels too which is
       | nice.
        
       | JKCalhoun wrote:
       | The mobo collectors are going to have to fight the vinyl
       | enthusiasts for IKEA's Billy shipments.
        
         | jonlucc wrote:
         | Are Billy deep enough for vinyl? It looks to me like they're
         | only 11.75" deep, not 13.
        
           | JKCalhoun wrote:
           | Yeah, looks like the KALLAX is preferred, the BILLY does
           | leave a bit of album hanging out. (Although I don't believe
           | you need all of 13" for an album sleeve--perhaps closer to
           | 121/2". Still overhang though.)
        
           | netsharc wrote:
           | There's a version of Billy that is deeper (39cm = 15.35in),
           | but maybe only in some regions:
           | https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/billy-bookcase-white-90401932/
        
       | dylan604 wrote:
       | I've mentioned this before, but my first CoLo server was from a
       | friend that built servers for a good sized hosting company back
       | in the late 90s. He built it from spare parts but had no case for
       | it. He hung the mother board against a dry erase board from the
       | mounting holes with zip ties. He had a PSU sitting on his
       | workbench with cables feeding up to the mobo. IIRC, the hard
       | drive was suspended on the wall as well. In that vein, anything
       | can be a "rack" if you squint at it hard enough and maybe tilt
       | your head a bit.
        
         | cm2187 wrote:
         | Your friend founded OVH?
        
       | NoSalt wrote:
       | Great idea, but my Billy's are all full with my LEGO builds. :-D
        
       | BeetleB wrote:
       | Billy bookshelves are well known for their hackability. Just
       | Google "billy hacks".
       | 
       | See for example:
       | 
       | https://ikeahackers.net/2025/06/billy-bookcase-hacks.html
        
         | ARandomerDude wrote:
         | I'm a pretty mid around the house DIYer, and I commend the
         | ingenuity. But will never understand someone going to the
         | expense and hassle of buying a Billy and converting it into
         | built-ins. Someone who can do the conversion is also capable of
         | adding their own shelves at a fraction of the cost, and the
         | product would be far more sturdy.
        
       | zem wrote:
       | ikea furniture is surprisingly bimodal, either it's cheaply made
       | stuff that doesn't last or it's startlingly solid and cleanly
       | designed for a great price. don't think I've ever gotten
       | something that was just okay.
        
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