[HN Gopher] OpenAI, the US government and Persona built an ident...
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OpenAI, the US government and Persona built an identity
surveillance machine
Related ongoing thread: _Discord cuts ties with identity
verification software, Persona_ -
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47136036 - Feb 2026 (282
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Author : rzk
Score : 379 points
Date : 2026-02-24 18:23 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| RiverCrochet wrote:
| Is this the mark of the beast?
| zoklet-enjoyer wrote:
| No
| outside1234 wrote:
| No, the mark of the beast is everyone in the Epstein files
| johnnyanmac wrote:
| So, less a mark and more an abyss to stare into?
| tinfoilhatter wrote:
| What do the people in the Epstein files have to do with a
| mark that people need to receive in order to participate in
| society? I'm confused.
| billfor wrote:
| Yes
| blurbleblurble wrote:
| They rhyme
| throw4847285 wrote:
| Well if you will turn your attention to my Straussian reading
| of the most popular comic books and anime, you may find that...
| MattDaEskimo wrote:
| What can those do from a separate country, who unfortunately had
| their identity verified through Persona (LinkedIn in my case).
| drac89 wrote:
| From the blog post I've recently read;
| https://thelocalstack.eu/posts/linkedin-identity-verificatio...
|
| 1. Request your data. Email idv-privacy@withpersona.com or
| privacy@withpersona.com. Under GDPR, they have 30 days to
| respond.
|
| 2. Request deletion. The verification is done. LinkedIn already
| has the result. There is no reason for Persona to keep your
| passport scan and facial geometry on their servers. Ask them to
| delete it.
|
| 3. Contact their DPO. dpo@withpersona.com -- that's their Data
| Protection Officer. If you want to object to them using your
| documents as AI training data under "legitimate interests,"
| this is where you do it.
|
| 4. Think twice before verifying. That blue badge might not be
| worth what you're trading for it. A checkmark is cosmetic.
| Biometric data is forever.
| hbcondo714 wrote:
| As heavily discussed here 3 days ago (Persona is the same
| company LinkedIn uses for their ID verification process):
|
| _I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here 's what I handed
| over_
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47098245
|
| 1.4K+ points, 490+ comments
| shimman wrote:
| Organize in your country and advocate for data deletion
| jubilees, organize in your country to champion new taxes
| against US digital services, organize in your country to
| advocate for homegrown solutions over US tech.
|
| If you aren't actively organizing you aren't going to
| accomplish anything.
|
| Remember that people power trumps monetary power, but you have
| to commit for people power to work.
| giancarlostoro wrote:
| > advocate for homegrown solutions over US tech.
|
| Some sweet irony about this btw.
| shimman wrote:
| Why? Every country on Earth is capable of creating and
| maintaining software. There is nothing unique about America
| or Silicon Valley (outside of the massive amounts of
| corporate welfare), devs can be found anywhere and who
| better to write software for local citizens than the local
| citizens themselves?
|
| We know how useful open source software is, there's no
| reason why this can't be replicated across the planet.
| giancarlostoro wrote:
| Not because they cannot do it, but because why they're
| doing it, which in turn becomes what they're doing.
| America is being perceived as isolationist, so countries
| solve that by becoming isolationist about what software
| they use, whether its open source or not is kind of
| irrelevant, though in several cases the software will
| primarily be focused on the countries own language.
|
| The better alternative in my eyes is to contribute to
| existing open source, and only if the US becomes hostile
| against this, fork said code and move on.
| ArchieScrivener wrote:
| Why the myspace music?
| OneDeuxTriSeiGo wrote:
| whimsy
| cloverich wrote:
| Going to copy paste my comment from today's other thread[3] that
| linked to this:
|
| Note also there's a direct response from Persona's security team
| here[1], and a lot of back and forth from Rick on Twitter[2].
|
| [1]: https://withpersona.com/blog/post-incident-review-source-
| map...
|
| [2]: https://x.com/Persona_IDV/status/2025048195773198385?s=20
|
| [3]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47136036
| aeldidi wrote:
| The withpersona.com URL seems to return 404.
| cloverich wrote:
| fixed ty
| kelvinjps10 wrote:
| They did good damage control with that post
| pharos92 wrote:
| It seems like at every technological step, we're sold the dream
| and delivered the meme. We always end up with the worst possible
| combination of players, ideas and outcomes; with the promise of
| what the said technology delivers in terms of additional freedom
| or free time never realised. How many more broken social
| contracts can society endure before it crumbles?
| ferguess_k wrote:
| From my understanding, we are pretty close to a Dystopian world
| where all elites of a certain group collaborate to run a Super
| Leviathan. We still gotta choose our flavors, which may not be
| feasible in maybe 5-10 years when those leviathans clash into
| each other.
| measurablefunc wrote:
| Goliath's Curse by Luke Kemp covers it pretty well I think.
| ferguess_k wrote:
| Thanks for the recommendation.
| dylan604 wrote:
| It's not like this is surprising, there have been plenty of
| sci-fi books/movies that have predicted this very thing. How
| many movies have the haves lived above ground/off planet,
| while the have nots have lived underground or stuck on a
| apocalyptic planet.
|
| This is just furthering the previous history. Currently, the
| lords have just been able to keep the serfs appeased to a
| longer extent. Every time in history or in sci-fi, the serfs
| reach a breaking point and rise up.
| measurablefunc wrote:
| This time is different. The global system is not going to
| fall apart like isolated kingdoms in the past.
| dylan604 wrote:
| You seem very confident. This seems to imply you feel the
| _haves_ will know when to leave enough on the table for
| the _have nots_ to still feel like they are a part of the
| _haves_. I 'm not so confident in that.
| measurablefunc wrote:
| People in technologically advanced societies have more
| than enough & the people who are not as advanced can not
| do anything that will have any effect on the people who
| own the fighter jets, missiles, robot factories, &
| "internet" satellites. The current system has no
| historical precedent. It is very close to an almost
| perfect panopticon w/ an associated media & police
| apparatus to keep everyone docile & complacent. Like I
| said, this time is different.
| atmavatar wrote:
| Far more likely is that we head back to a feudal era
| where data mining tech is used to identify and eliminate
| potential rabble-rousers. Once enough production is
| automated, all remaining have-nots are exterminated.
| neuralRiot wrote:
| The weak link is that for "the haves" to have, the "have
| -nots" are needed. To have or to not is just a
| comparison, a millionaire needs the poor to be rich and
| to feel special otherwise when everyone is special nobody
| is.
| neuralRiot wrote:
| " Whatever it is you're seeking won't come in the form
| you're expecting - Haruki Murakami"
| ferguess_k wrote:
| I don't think they are going to rise up this time. Maybe
| laying down flat is more realistic.
| mistrial9 wrote:
| > Every time in history or in sci-fi, the serfs reach a
| breaking point and rise up.
|
| this is a completely "WEIRD" outlook.. more than half of
| humanity has no illusions about "proletarians" they do not
| even discuss it that way
|
| source: born and raised WEIRD
| whynotmaybe wrote:
| Ever read 1984?
|
| Who wins at the end?
| ramuel wrote:
| Winston, obviously. He left behind his free-thinking and
| became unwavering to Big Brother. Truly a winner
| dylan604 wrote:
| Why, oh why, didn't I take the blue pill?
| nehal3m wrote:
| All these memes are burning through our natural reserves at an
| ever increasing rate so it will crumble when the bread baskets
| fail anyway.
| dlenski wrote:
| It's "socializing the losses and privatizing the gains"... but
| now alarmingly supercharged well beyond purely _financial_
| realms, and into really basic and fundamental matters of
| individual physical autonomy and liberty.
| xg15 wrote:
| > _How many more broken social contracts can society endure
| before it crumbles?_
|
| Having any kind of agency in those things would be a start.
|
| If <FAANG bigcorp of your choice> announces with great fanfare
| "We're building this totally awesome new technology that will
| make everything better! And the best thing? You won't have to
| do anything, we will auto-update all your devices/accounts/etc
| with it for free! Trust us!", then whether you personally
| believe their enthusiastic predictions or not doesn't really
| matter a lot - you will get it anyway, unless you spend a lot
| of energy to deliberately avoid the new technology.
| ctoth wrote:
| The story here is that a FedRAMP-authorized system had 53MB of
| Vite dev source maps exposed on a production government
| endpoint. That's not "sold the dream, delivered the meme,"
| that's a specific auditable compliance failure. Meanwhile a
| fintech engineer explaining that this is all standard legally-
| mandated KYC infrastructure got flagged to death. The
| interesting question isn't whether technology betrays us, it's
| why US law requires this surveillance apparatus in the first
| place and why the security assessment apparently missed
| checking for /vite-dev/ on a government system.
|
| Also every technological step? Ever? Really? This wouldn't
| happen to be typed on a computer from a climate-controlled room
| on a nice global network or anything?
| cthalupa wrote:
| Except it wasn't a production endpoint and there's no actual
| security risk in having source maps available. It's more
| annoying to read source code that has been minified, but if a
| security professional tells you that minifying source code is
| something that increases security, you should be wondering
| what other bullshit they've pedaled you.
|
| I'm not a fan of persona and have gone out of my way to not
| provide my details to them even before this, and I _really_
| dislike Thiel, but... let 's be honest about the stuff we're
| complaining about.
| storus wrote:
| I think that's a natural outcome of a model where sociopaths
| climb to the top, with a layer of sycophants beneath them that
| shield normal workers from perceiving the amount of depravity
| going on at the top which would make them unable to continue
| and tank the business. AI might remove the reliance on regular
| folks and give sociopaths direct execution of all ideas they
| have without any moral opposition, and that would explain a lot
| of the rush for AI everywhere we see nowadays.
| nemooperans wrote:
| This is the part that doesn't get enough attention. The
| historical check on concentrated power wasn't just democracy
| or law -- it was that executing any large-scale agenda
| required thousands of people who could refuse, drag their
| feet, or leak. AI doesn't just automate tasks -- it removes
| the human friction that was always an informal veto on the
| worst ideas.
|
| The surveillance apparatus isn't new. What's new is that you
| need fewer people with moral objections in the loop to
| operate it.
| asdfman123 wrote:
| I would be careful with this kind of reasoning, because it
| suggests corruption within a corporate model is inevitable,
| giving it implicit permission to continue existing. It's not
| inevitable.
| vpShane wrote:
| Birds of a flock crap on everybody together.
|
| > How many more broken social contracts can society endure
| before it crumbles?
|
| I wouldn't call this much of a society if people's eyes are
| open.
|
| What's that song name, they don't care about us?
| asdfman123 wrote:
| It's already crumbling. That's why we have AI-powered fascism
| in the first place. Society destabilizes and a significant
| fraction of the population says "perhaps authoritarianism is a
| good thing." It's never worth it, though.
| FarmerPotato wrote:
| Is this whole unreadable article just the output from an AI
| prompt describing a techno-thriller?
| random3 wrote:
| likely not. Being able to read and understand is a matter of
| skill though. There are many technical terms there that may
| make it unreadable for non-technical audience. But you can
| solve that by having an AI explain it to you.
| FarmerPotato wrote:
| It's not my skills. I could decipher it if I spent enough
| time (and had plain text).
|
| the presentation is bad.
|
| verbosity.
|
| it takes many words for the writer to make a point.
|
| that darn cat.
| sebastianconcpt wrote:
| Quite some time ago I said and now repeat:
|
| _Convenience is to humans, what bulb lights at night are to
| bugs_.
| esafak wrote:
| No pain, no gain.
| themafia wrote:
| Ridiculous.
|
| Stand in a hospital and say that credibly. I recommend the
| maternity ward.
|
| Our consumer markets are a wreck. We have no federal watch dog
| exercising any authority. We have unchecked intelligence
| agencies actively trying to enslave the world. Our desire for
| convenience is not the problem, the people taking advantage of
| it are.
| moffkalast wrote:
| Why a hospital? There's very little convenience at play when
| it's a life and death situation.
|
| It is what drives the market quite a bit at least. It's why
| we've produced over 2 billion cars and use them every day to
| pollute our own air so we don't have to walk two blocks. Most
| home appliances are convenience personified, the dishwasher,
| the microwave, the clothes dryer. It's why we have supply
| chains up the wazoo to bring products from all corners of the
| globe to everyone's nearby supermarket, a large amount of it
| getting thrown away when it's expired unsold. We fly across
| countries for something as pointless as a business meeting.
| Hell people now even order a taxi for their food, so they
| don't have to go out to get it.
|
| Modern life is like at least 60% wastefulness in the name of
| convenience. Of course people with the option to do so will
| exploit the one thing that's easily exploitable, that's like
| water flowing downhill.
| Ancalagon wrote:
| Why do so many engineers willingly build things bad for society?
| mikestew wrote:
| Because it generally pays well. I'd wax philosophically, but
| you can come to your own conclusions from that little nugget.
| popalchemist wrote:
| Enough said. Since the "death of God" (per Nietzsche - the
| collapse of the metaphysics underpinning our morals and
| therefore cultural norms and behaviors) the modus operandi
| has been the utilitarian "get what's yours."
|
| Reprehensible.
|
| Additionally, people are typically only "gifted" on one
| domain -- if one's gifted enough in the domain of intellect
| to become a SWE, they're typically lacking elsewhere, whether
| that be in moral scruples or the ability to discern social
| things such as when they're working for sociopaths.
| Ancalagon wrote:
| You'd think empathy would just be enough, its very sad.
| asdfman123 wrote:
| Every accusation is a confession
| bigyabai wrote:
| "Oh boy! I've always wanted to work at [microsoft, apple,
| google, etc.]!"
| mikestew wrote:
| Those aren't the companies OP is necessarily talking about.
| "I've always wanted to work at Persona!", said no one, ever.
| bigyabai wrote:
| All of them are complicit. You only need ~50 greedy
| sociopaths to work at Persona, and 10,000 dumb-as-rocks
| engineers hyped to work at Microsoft/OpenAI and "stop the
| bad guys" or whatever the boogeyman du-jour is.
|
| We saw it with Bitlocker, we saw it with Client Side
| Scanning, we see it with Salt Typhoon. Most people that
| work on weaponized surveillance systems are entirely
| apathetic, or see themselves as righteous. Even when the
| system is known to be bugged, obviously flawed, or outright
| controlled by a foreign adversary.
| globalnode wrote:
| oh thats a good point, kind of like the military or how
| propaganda demonizes the enemy during a war, its us vs
| them.
| bombdailer wrote:
| Because the highest values of our society are non-values.
| konart wrote:
| Because they do not believe it is bad?
|
| Because they believe that it's going to be build anyone by
| someone else?
|
| Because they are not entirely aware of what they are building?
| Ancalagon wrote:
| All these bright engineers can't figure out the bigger
| picture of what they're building?
|
| "Hey boss man, why does this database 'tracked_individuals'
| have columns for license plate numbers, home addresses, and
| political affiliations?"
|
| Give me a break
| bigyabai wrote:
| Yes, many of them don't. They're fed convincing cover-
| stories like "we need this to stop CSAM" or "this prevents
| terrorism", and then put on a security theater about E2EE
| and military-grade cryptography. They sleep like a baby
| because most of them genuinely think they're the good guys,
| hell, even people on HN appear to buy the obvious lie
| whenever Client Side Scanning or Flock is brought up.
|
| You can hire sociopaths to work the ~1% of jobs that
| require a complete understanding of your moral bankruptcy.
| Mark Zuckerberg, Tim Cook, Larry Ellison, none of these
| people ever apologized for their ethical flexibility
| because it's precisely what qualifies them for such a
| lucrative job. Persona can be a shell org with 20 evil
| engineers while their partners absentmindedly do the
| integration work.
| krapp wrote:
| Because they're paid enough to retire at 30.
| kaashif wrote:
| Money can be exchanged for services.
|
| Hope this helps.
| Nezteb wrote:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_apples
|
| Immoral boot-licking human engineers are indistinguishable from
| LLMs.
| Ancalagon wrote:
| What's crazy is I know engineers like this in real life - and
| they're good engineers! So I know they do exist, but their
| existence to serve their company or CEO no matter what is
| completely foreign to me. Like, you're smart enough to
| understand that large codebase and generally function as a
| member of society, but you've completely given up your higher
| level decision making for someone or something that would
| throw you away in an instant.
| FrustratedMonky wrote:
| Evil pays more.
|
| A common theme in a lot of movies, books, et..
| GorbachevyChase wrote:
| The tribe won't eat their own... probably.
| biophysboy wrote:
| Many tech execs operate under the thesis that china & the
| democratic party are existential threats that warrant a
| surveillance/military/police ramp up. Meanwhile, many tech
| employees are credulous and frequently adopt self-serving
| geopolitical narratives. The current macro trends don't help
| (huge defense budgets, bad labor market power, China is in fact
| more powerful)
|
| Edit:forgot the most obvious... money
| ej88 wrote:
| surprised nobody responded with the most straightforward,
| occams razor explanation
|
| they think what they're doing is actually good for society
|
| not everyone is in the hackerspace libertarian / socialist
| sphere
|
| i used to work for a place that used persona despite it adding
| extra friction to signups (literally resulting in less paying
| customers to the dismay of PMs) because it was worth it to
| combat fraud. theres a tradeoff in everything
| globalnode wrote:
| also theyre subject to the same anonymity many other internet
| users have and so dont feel any consequences for their actions.
| 4midori wrote:
| In response to a data request, Persona says:
|
| Hi there,
|
| Thank you for reaching out to Persona.
|
| Please note that Persona primarily operates as a "service
| provider" or "processor" for its customers. We act as a
| "business" or "controller" only for specific services, such as
| identity verification for LinkedIn, FoxCorp, and Reusable
| Persona. To learn more about how Persona manages your personal
| data, please refer to our privacy notices, which can be accessed
| through the following link:
| https://withpersona.com/legal/privacy-notices
|
| If you wish to exercise your privacy rights related to services
| where Persona is a "service provider" or "processor," please
| contact the entity using our service, as they are the
| "controller" of the data. We will assist the relevant customer to
| fulfill your data subject rights, but we do not handle such
| requests directly on their behalf.
|
| For any privacy rights request related to services where Persona
| acts as a "business" or "controller," including identity
| verification for LinkedIn, FoxCorp, Reusable Persona, and
| personal data related to our sales, marketing activities, or
| website browsing on withpersona.com, please use our Data Subject
| Request (DSAR) available at the following link:
| https://withpersona.com/dsar
|
| For all other inquiries, we will respond as soon as possible.
|
| ###
|
| TL;DR we're not responsible, go talk to LinkedIn.
| plagiarist wrote:
| This is the same complete bullshit trying to remove oneself
| from political donation emails. "Oh, okay, we will remove you
| from that one." Days later it's a "different campaign."
| Sometimes it's the exact same people from weeks ago who have
| just renamed their campaign and started sending again.
|
| We need far stronger laws for all of it, which will never
| happen because the rot and corruption has fully metastasized.
| raincole wrote:
| https://withpersona.com/customers/openai
|
| Persona's side of the story.
| tr_alts wrote:
| The right wing went full censorship and surveillance after the
| Charlie Kirk assassination. It is probably not a coincidence that
| they targeted Discord first, because the suspect was in a Discord
| group.
|
| They promised freedom of speech and liberty and this is what we
| get.
| hactually wrote:
| nothing to do with left or right. the UK is left and has the
| most Orwellian surveillance state outside of China
| jcranmer wrote:
| The right wing went full censorship and surveillance _long
| before_ the Charlie Kirk assassination. Anyone who believed
| that the right wing (or the left wing, for that matter; let 's
| not pretend that censorious dipshittery is not bipartisan) was
| honestly promising freedom of speech as opposed to merely
| freedom of speech they like and censorship of speech they don't
| like was at best willfully blinding themselves to the actual
| actions of politicians.
| exceptione wrote:
| > long before the Charlie Kirk assassination.
|
| True. The free speech narratives are mere tools against
| opposition by promoting the most childish and stupidly rigid
| interpretations thereof, not something they really believe
| in. The whole conservative project is doomed from the start
| as it has to confront science and progress like the
| emancipation by women, lgbt people and certain ethnicities.
| > or the left wing, for that matter;
|
| Both sides is uncalled for. _Far left_ and the horse shoe,
| sure, but a) far left is very fringe, and b) lets not equate
| them with a _well funded actual insurrection of oligarch and
| white nationalists with a paramilitary_.
| sfink wrote:
| > > or the left wing, for that matter; > Both sides is
| uncalled for. Far left and the horse shoe, sure
|
| How so? Leftist censorship became quite popular on college
| campuses. The _ACLU_ supported that, and got cold feet
| about promoting free expression more generally when it
| involves organizations or causes it doesn 't like.
|
| I'm a lefty, but I absolutely believe that both the left
| and right are deep in the "ends justify the means" weeds
| with respect to censorship and free expression. I blame
| partisanship. People used to have respect for someone
| taking a principled stand that didn't necessarily align
| with their overall political position. Now, that's just
| seen as a weak maneuver in the all-important "my team vs
| your team" culture war.
|
| > The whole conservative project is doomed from the start
| as it has to confront science and progress like the
| emancipation by women, lgbt people and certain ethnicities.
|
| I have no idea what you're talking about. There is no
| scientific or natural law that says that every human should
| have equal rights. You can totally make a stable society
| that discriminates on color of skin or possession of
| certain documents or account balance. It's been done many
| times. Science does not tell you whether votes should be
| extended all the way to ducks but not chickens, nor whether
| unauthorized presence in a country should enable arbitrary
| search and seizure. Plus, "conservative" covers a lot of
| ground and someone can legitimately be extremely
| conservative and completely opposed to (eg) white
| nationalism at the same time.
|
| Sure, conservatism is always going to drag its heels to
| recognize and accommodate the sorts of progress in science
| and other understanding that I'm guessing you're thinking
| of, but progressives can just as easily go too far too fast
| and be blind to the tradeoffs and principles involved. The
| "conservative project" _can 't_ be doomed; it will always
| be a different point on a continuum from the "progressive
| project", and we'll always be able to argue over where the
| right point is.
|
| Well, at least until we're all dead or so infantilized by
| our technology that we stop even asking the questions.
| exceptione wrote:
| > The right wing went full censorship and surveillance after
| the Charlie Kirk assassination.
|
| No, earlier. US tech is mostly surveillance tech, with Thiel
| being sponsor and broker for authoritarian right. The doge
| operation started around day 1, and was a breach into the
| government to steal data that was yet out of reach for certain
| plotters.
| dang wrote:
| Comments moved to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47140632.
| edverma2 wrote:
| This is a hilarious personal website! Love it. Even better that
| it's paired with quality content.
| spacebacon wrote:
| I felt alive again as I used my physical volume button down to
| focus on the text.
| int32_64 wrote:
| Based on the Anthropic distillation news yesterday I wonder if
| the AI companies are going to get much tighter with KYC.
| disgruntledphd2 wrote:
| I get the KYC concerns for API access, but I'm sortof baffled
| at why they'd need all of the AML stuff, given that they're not
| payment processors/financial institutions.
|
| Or does Persona provide that by default? Don't know much about
| their service...
| yoyohello13 wrote:
| This website really is incredible!
| dylan604 wrote:
| "what is Fivecast ONYX? an AI-powered surveillance platform
| purchased by ICE for $4.2 million and CBP for additional license
| costs. according to Fivecast's own documentation and EFF's
| reporting, they do automated collection of multimedia data from
| social media and dark web, build "digital footprints" from
| biographical data, tracks shifts in sentiment and emotion,
| assigns risk scores, searches across 300+ platforms and 28+
| billion data points, identifies people with "violent tendencies""
|
| Glad to know that my tinfoil hat wasn't too tight when social
| media came to be and this obvious use was predicted. How quickly
| will _not_ having social media accounts become a crime?
| varenc wrote:
| According to Persona's damage control article[0], the subdomain
| had "onyx" in its name because that's the internal code name
| for the project, and it's named after the pokemon Onyx. No
| connection to Fivecast ONYX.
|
| [0] https://withpersona.com/blog/post-incident-review-source-
| map...
| crimsoneer wrote:
| I don't really understand why ICE would have a Persona OPenAI
| connection...?
| pseudosaid wrote:
| Really? Sounds like they are a customer.
| a_victorp wrote:
| It's already frowned upon when crossing the border
| tamimio wrote:
| We need a list of these 300+ platforms
| baddash wrote:
| thank god there's an annoying fucking cat in the way of what i'm
| trying to read
| noutella wrote:
| Move your mouse and the cat will follow
| righthand wrote:
| On mobile the cat sits in the middle of the screen and does
| not respond to touch input. The author has been told about
| the distracting elements and refused to acknowledge it.
| testycool wrote:
| If I tap somewhere else the cat goes there. I like the
| website, even though some design choices don't follow UX
| best practices.
| cedws wrote:
| Governments in Europe should be seriously scrutinising this with
| the background conversation of departing American tech going on.
| Discord users globally were being coerced into handing over their
| ID to this American surveillance tech. Are we just going to let
| this go on?
| frm88 wrote:
| Unfortunately Persona already has a lot of contracts in the EU
| and is about to get more https://fintecbuzz.com/persona-to-
| launch-a-new-suite-of-solu...
| tamimio wrote:
| > 0x18 - betrayal
|
| This is the most important section, as the above ones any
| privacy-conscious person would assume most anyway. I did mention
| before that we need an open-source platform that tracks the
| people who work and build such systems. Those are the enablers
| who have no morals or ethics - a greedy corporation is always
| greedy, but when the average employee is willing to work full
| time on building such systems, they need to be exposed publicly,
| just as they are working relentlessly on violating private
| people's privacy. It isn't about public humiliation; it's about
| basic human decency and maintaining a minimum ethical code to
| abide by. These individuals shouldn't be hired or dealt with, not
| even a simple connection on LinkedIn.
|
| These individuals are dangerous. They are like rats among us and
| should be exposed, and I bet some of them are reading this as
| well.
| gslepak wrote:
| Does someone have a version that doesn't force you to listen to
| unwanted music?
| Havoc wrote:
| In FF you can click on a tab on left side to mute it not sure
| other browsers
| Havoc wrote:
| Wonder how many lists I'm on for the unholy sin of saying the
| glorious american leader is a moron
| oth001 wrote:
| Or for saying Israel shouldn't be committing a genocide.
| standardly wrote:
| Author was doing such a good write-up, until I saw repeated AI
| syntax "its not x, but y" and "a is b. b is c. and, c is the
| final thing in this series of short, punchy sentences". Really
| tired of this. Why is it so hard to just write naturally? Maybe
| I'm just easily triggered
| firegodjr wrote:
| That _was_ writing naturally until AI stole it from us.
| Kiboneu wrote:
| > OpenAI's disclosures reference biometric data stored "up to a
| year." the source > code shows face list retention capped at 3
| years. government IDs retained > "permanently" per Persona's
| practices. which is it?
|
| I keep saying this. This is the playbook -- everything is moving
| to standardize Sam Altman's biometric authentication
| cryptocurrency company to use internet services. This has been a
| slow moving strategy for /years/ and every new step over that
| period only get closer, not further from this goal.
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