[HN Gopher] Why vampires live forever
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Why vampires live forever
Author : machielrey
Score : 263 points
Date : 2026-02-11 15:50 UTC (7 hours ago)
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| yashasolutions wrote:
| very entertaining writing style
| themarbz wrote:
| Now this is the kind of content I come to Hacker News for.
| uwagar wrote:
| exactly
| insin wrote:
| > Appears to not age but also to never have been young
|
| /me snorts
| larsiusprime wrote:
| Honestly, the surest sign of the existence of vampires to me
| would be a class of investors with extremely anomalous discount
| rates, suggesting that they are operating on inhumanly long time
| horizons, combined with a particular interest in real estate, as
| first documented in the field's seminal publication (Stoker,
| 1897).
| snvzz wrote:
| If interested in rejuvenation, I would suggest investigating
| LEVF's Robust Mouse Rejuvenation.
|
| RMR1 done and shows promise, RMR2 started recently.
| david927 wrote:
| This is a fun story from the early 18th century if you haven't
| read about it
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_of_St._Germain
| david927 wrote:
| And I don't want to add fuel to a strange fire, but in 1764
| when Jean-Jacques Rousseau wrote a letter to Beaumont regarding
| the absurdity of belief despite evidence, he used this as an
| example:
|
| _" If there is in this world a well-attested account, it is
| that of vampires. Nothing is lacking: official reports,
| affidavits of well-known people, of surgeons, of priests, of
| magistrates; the judicial proof is most complete."_
| dsr_ wrote:
| "Don't be silly, Bob," said Mo. "Everybody knows vampires
| don't exist."
|
| -- first line of The Rhesus Chart, by cstross
| kmeisthax wrote:
| Wasn't this the guy going around building animate porcelain
| dolls in suspiciously modern gothic-lolita dresses?
| soiltype wrote:
| Interesting... I first went to the linked recent post What the
| Longevity Experts Don't Tell You. Sorry to be harsh: it was
| nonsense. It just lists a few weird, unscientific behaviours of
| John D Rockefeller and tries to draw lessons (to what end?
| longevity? is Rockefeller still alive?) from them despite there
| being no indication those behaviors even had any effect, let
| alone positive impact on longevity. It also doesn't bring up
| things "the longevity experts don't tell you," it's just
| summaries of topics in a single biography.
|
| Still I gave this article a shot. I don't understand what it's
| doing. Like, one of the points about Thiel is that he destroyed
| Gawker to cover up his vampirism. He actually destroyed Gawker to
| cover up his relationship to Epstein, the pedophile and saboteur
| of US social/economic integrity. Why put a silly spin on that? I
| guess the entire thing is just a little joke... just doesn't feel
| like it belongs on the HN front page. I had higher expectations.
| JimmyBuckets wrote:
| Also weird it didn't mention Peter Attia's connection to
| Epstein outright. It did this weird tongue-in-cheek thing for a
| few paragraphs referencing Epstein only in the foot notes. I
| still can't tell whether what I read was actually praising
| these guys or extremely subtly sardonic.
| dgacmu wrote:
| It's not nonsense, it's satire. I was laughing most of the way
| through both of these articles.
|
| The Rockefeller one literally points out that the guy did all
| this weird stuff and then his son, who didn't, outlived him.
| FarmerPotato wrote:
| Vampires are a kind of pedophile.
| crmd wrote:
| I hope the old vampire Dons give some fashion advice to the new
| guys, e.g. "A vampire doesn't wear Arc'teryx".
| achenet wrote:
| Yes, if there's one thing I reproach Mark Zuckerberg, it's not
| that his company will occasionally enable genocides [0], but
| his crimes against fashion and good taste.
|
| [0] https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-
| faceb...
| eviks wrote:
| Hope the author has some garlic silverware lying around after
| such a revealing article
| machielrey wrote:
| I realize now that I might be in trouble. Thanks everyone
| amarant wrote:
| Cute. But I saw through your thin veil Mr Tepes. The irony of
| bragging about your opsec and revealing your true identity
| for leverage in the same sentence is considerable.
|
| Anyway, I hope your son, Adrian, is doing ok. I fondly
| remember hunting your horrors of the night with him
|
| -T.B.
| rbanffy wrote:
| I am deeply offended by someone associating Thiel with
| vampires. That idea is completely absurd. Vampires are famous
| for being handsome, interesting, elegant, well educated, and
| having impeccable taste for fashion. Thiel has none of these
| traits.
| OutOfHere wrote:
| The article misses the simplest technique:
|
| Just donate blood as often as possible. This results in a loss of
| cholesterol, other bad lipoproteins, excess iron in those who
| have it, and PFAS toxins. It is frequency-dependently associated
| with longevity.
|
| Whole blood donation avoids the plastic lining of plasma
| donations, with the latter undesirably transferring unwanted
| microplastics into the body.
|
| For those with sufficient spare money, instead of donating blood,
| just get various blood tests every other week, additively
| comparable to a donation if the tests are substantial.
|
| Granted, this is antithetical to being a vampire, but you will
| still have to make up for it by supplementing sufficient healthy
| nutrients, e.g. electrolytes, ferric pyrophosphate, protein, etc.
| to allow your body to quickly restore the lost blood.
|
| As a disclaimer, do not ever donate blood if you use narcotics,
| disallowed drugs, injectable drugs, or have unsafe intimate
| practices, or might have chagas or TB or even long Covid.
| kadushka wrote:
| Is there any evidence?
| popcorncowboy wrote:
| Let me google that for you
| https://www.perplexity.ai/search/is-there-any-evidence-
| that-...
| fyrabanks wrote:
| does this imply that you're just giving shitty blood to people
| that need life saving procedures?
| overfeed wrote:
| > does this imply that you're just giving shitty blood...
|
| 2 questions: is there any other kind? If there were, ate
| people requiring transfusion in a position to make demands to
| the donors (not vendors)
| munk-a wrote:
| Bad blood is better than no blood!
|
| Also, I'm not certain how much they treat blood, but I
| wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being a purification
| system sort of similar to Dialysis where you rely on an
| external machine for removing impurities.
| mrguyorama wrote:
| The microplastic filled blood will manage to oxygenate their
| brain and other organs and save their life, and then they can
| donate it on to the next person in need.
|
| Feels a little homeopathy... How many people can we put the
| same blood through?
| drewg123 wrote:
| So maybe they were on to something with leeches?
| koakuma-chan wrote:
| Every time I do blood work I almost faint.
| janeerie wrote:
| I used to have this problem until I was given the tip to
| tense various muscles throughout my body during the process.
| Do not listen to the nurses who tell you to relax!
| 1970-01-01 wrote:
| >It is frequency-dependently associated with longevity.
|
| Paper where more frequent cycles in women correlate to longer
| lifetimes? That would have to be true if this were true.
| Sohcahtoa82 wrote:
| I'm assuming you're referring to blood loss from
| menstruation? That's typically only 30-40 mL (1-1.5 fluid
| ounces, about a shot glass).
|
| Nowhere close to the amount given during a donation.
| 1970-01-01 wrote:
| Heavy bleeders would be in the 100-200ml range. This group
| should correlate with longevity.
| jamilton wrote:
| >The public begins to associate blood transfusion with eccentric
| billionaires rather than with undead predators. This is a
| critical narrative shift.
|
| Not much of a shift...
| kps wrote:
| You misunderstand. Coming out as vampires is meant to _improve_
| their reputation.
| _joel wrote:
| Why am I reading this in Freddie Mercury's signing voice?
| layer8 wrote:
| In that version, there can be only one.
| block_dagger wrote:
| Although better known for his singing voice, it's true that the
| voice he used when cryptographically signing private messages
| was also impressive.
| jagged-chisel wrote:
| Completely OT: In the link "what the longevity experts don't tell
| you"[1] I found this:
|
| "As a devout Baptist, he couldn't use playing cards..."
|
| And I'm wondering if I missed something in my Baptist upbringing.
| I have long since removed myself from any semblance of the Church
| and manage my own relationship with faith and any related higher
| beings, so it's more a curiosity than pertinent.
|
| 1 - https://machielreyneke.com/blog/longevity-lessons/
| jvalencia wrote:
| As a devout Baptist minister, this is likely about one of two
| things, avoiding the appearance of evil (gambling, 1 Thess 5:22
| - Abstain from every form of evil), and giving up something for
| the sake of others (gambling addictions within the church, Rom
| 4:21 - or do anything that causes your brother to stumble).
|
| The reality is that most churches recognize that they were too
| legalistic in the past, and so now address things like gambling
| more directly, and are perfectly ok with playing cards. FWIW
| YMMV :-)
| prometheus76 wrote:
| I was under the impression that the injunction against
| playing cards was because of their proximity to tarot/occult
| practices. Mormons had the same injunction against playing
| cards until the 80s, when the teaching was no longer
| promulgated. Speaking as a former Mormon...
| jvalencia wrote:
| I think that's not wrong. Same principle, different sin...
| it looks like gambling, or the occult, or...
| impossiblefork wrote:
| Here in Sweden, where we also have free churches such as
| Baptists, Laestadians etc., the concern was definitely
| about gambling.
| mikestew wrote:
| I knew plenty of Midwestern Baptists that didn't participate in
| the triple crown of no-nos: dancing, drinking, and gambling.
| And cards aren't necessarily gambling, but cards are the bricks
| that pave the road to such evil. It's guilt-by-association (and
| some will tell you, wrongly, that playing cards are an
| outgrowth of tarot cards and the like), but there ya go. Oddly,
| I knew plenty of Baptists that played Yahtzee, which involves
| dice, and that seemed acceptable. Never minding that the Roman
| soldiers cast lots ("dice") for Jesus' clothing. :-)
| larsiusprime wrote:
| This is actually how the popular Texas dominoes game of "42"
| was invented. It's similar to Spades and other trick-taking
| games with bids and trumps, but it's played with dominoes,
| not cards, and therefore it's okay :) Two boys from a Baptist
| family who got in trouble for playing cards came up with it.
|
| http://texas42.net/42Article.html
| dfxm12 wrote:
| Consider some writing contemporary to Rockefeller (there is a
| section on cards):
| https://baptisthistoryhomepage.com/social.amusements.willis....
|
| Consider that Titan was written maybe 100 years removed from
| the events and you're reading a secondhand telling of it from a
| blog. Maybe there is more context in the book if you're really
| curious, or maybe the context was lost from Rockefeller's time
| to the book, or from the book to the blogpost.
|
| Consider a few more things: If you ask 10 Baptists about
| something secondary to scripture like this, you may get
| different answers from different people, especially if they are
| from different eras, as religion changes over time. As another
| example, some Catholics grew up hearing the mass in Latin.
|
| It's funny though, Rockefeller appeared devout enough to
| understand that gambling was a sin. Rockefeller appeared to
| believe in an omniscient God. Did he really think his square
| counters would fool said omniscient God? People trying to find
| such loopholes in Religion is always fascinating to me. Of
| course, it could have all been a show.
| ceejayoz wrote:
| > Did he really think his square counters would fool said
| omniscient God?
|
| My favorite example of this is the string of fishing line
| around Manhattan.
|
| https://www.npr.org/2019/05/13/721551785/a-fishing-line-
| enci...
| mrguyorama wrote:
| The difference is that it is an explicit belief of most
| jewish groups that God put these "clever" gimmicks into the
| rules on purpose, God wants you to look for them and be
| rewarded for looking for them, and God thinks the way
| jewish people debate about rules is awesome, and that
| "clever" workarounds are just the best.
|
| Contrast this with my Catholic tradition which insists that
| if I get cheeky with God I should expect to be slapped back
| down. Jesus seems nifty though, so it's a tradeoff.
|
| Also, I'm lying. Catholics had no problems playing dumb
| games with "The rules" to eat beavers when they weren't
| supposed to eat "meat" and also fish aren't "meat" to this
| day. We're fun like that.
| u1hcw9nx wrote:
| >They drink blood because their own blood accumulates factors
| that accelerate aging, and they need to periodically dilute it.
| Feeding isn't nutrition. It's dialysis.
|
| This seems to be the emerging consensus. When you get older your
| metabolism creates all kinds of crap that circulates in the
| blood.
|
| You would like to have boosted kidneys parallel to real ones that
| can detect and remove all the slightly wrong proteins.
| johnisgood wrote:
| Are there any reasons for this to work on non-vampires? :D
| delecti wrote:
| That was my thought as well. At least naively, it seems to
| follow that regularly donating blood might have health
| benefits. A typical donation is half a liter, and a person
| has about 5 liters of blood, so donating should in theory
| remove about 10% of the crap you've got circulating, right?
|
| Edit: You can donate every 2 months, so donating as often as
| possible would roughly halve the crud every year (0.9^6 ~=
| 0.53, ignoring the natural increase over time).
| johnisgood wrote:
| Yeah, that is donating, now I wonder donating AND receiving
| (from a healthy individual). :D
| dylan604 wrote:
| Why do you think Gavin Belson had a blood bag? This has
| been a trope for a while. They even had blood bags in the
| Fury Road movie, but that was more of a continuous supply
| than just trying to refresh like Gavin. I don't think
| using movie tropes in a discussion on vampires is out of
| line here
| u1hcw9nx wrote:
| I don't think it's very effective.
|
| It's your metabolism that produces that junk with
| increasing ratio of stuff that you need. If you just remove
| blood, the ratio of good stuff to bad stuff does not
| change. Same with kidney filtering if they can't recognize
| the difference.
|
| Blood transfusion from younger person gives you blood with
| better ratio.
| delecti wrote:
| The article includes a citation that explicitly states
| the opposite. Specifically citation 20 from the section
| "The Twist" (which is itself all about this idea):
|
| > [20] Mehdipour, M. et al. "Rejuvenation of three germ
| layers tissues by exchanging old blood plasma with
| saline-albumin." Aging 12(10), 8790-8819, 2020. The UC
| Berkeley team found that diluting old blood plasma with
| saline and albumin produced rejuvenating effects
| comparable to young blood -- suggesting the mechanism is
| removing pro-aging factors rather than adding youth
| factors. This was, at the time of publication, the
| strongest evidence that old blood is the problem, not
| that young blood is the solution.
|
| Maybe regularly donating blood would have more negative
| effects from losing good stuff than positive effects from
| losing bad stuff, or maybe not. There is evidence that it
| could be a net positive though.
|
| And even aside from the buildup of crud due to normal
| aging, environmental crud (nano/microplastics, PFAS, etc)
| is not produced by the body. It's still not totally
| settled science whether all of those things have negative
| effects, but regular blood donation would help clear it
| out, at least a little.
| FarmerPotato wrote:
| I was waiting for someone to consider the idea of
| synthetic dilutants.
|
| But a further horror is: you're dumping your crud on the
| person getting your transfusion? I guess it's better than
| dying in ER.
| delecti wrote:
| Yeah, unless your blood is significantly more cruddy than
| average, the recipient shouldn't really care that you had
| ulterior motives behind donating.
| u1hcw9nx wrote:
| The article confirms what I just wrote. Albumins are
| proteins. If you add more albumins, the ratio changes.
|
| dilution = change of ratio. Just giving blood is not
| dilution.
| RajT88 wrote:
| 2 months for whole blood IIRC. You can do every 2 weeks for
| platelets, but I am not sure if that removes the crud or
| not. There's other donations with varying frequency (red,
| plasma, etc.).
| toast0 wrote:
| > it seems to follow that regularly donating blood might
| have health benefits
|
| It's pretty effective if you have excess iron
| (hemochromatosis) and your local vampires accept your
| donation; some don't because a donation where you get a
| significant benefit isn't a donation for the sole reason of
| helping others (and a free cookie). In that case,
| traditional bloodletting may be required.
| robocat wrote:
| In New Zealand, you are stopped at 75 (or 81 if given an
| exemption) assuming you started donating before 71.
|
| You can't start donating blood after 71.
|
| From age section: https://www.nzblood.co.nz/become-a-
| donor/am-i-eligible/detai...
| glitchc wrote:
| To reframe the argument, it's more likely that mechanisms for
| clearing cellular debris become less effective with age.
| jyscao wrote:
| Big if true :P
| solidasparagus wrote:
| > Here's what's genuinely interesting.
|
| That's my current AI detector smell.
|
| > He discontinued the blood exchange after data showed "no
| benefits." A suspicious person might note that a vampire would
| say exactly this after the media got too interested.
|
| I don't think it's the media (clearly the younger generations are
| media friendly), it's probably pressure from the older vamps.
| ZoomZoomZoom wrote:
| > You know what else is far-seeing? A creature that has been
| alive for centuries.
|
| Well, hello there!
| sgt wrote:
| Yeah, that does sound pretty AI-ish / marketing-bloggy. It's
| not wrong, but it has a few classic "AI vibes". If you want, I
| can........oh no!!!!!!
|
| NO CARRIER
| stared wrote:
| > Increased sun exposure was associated with an older appearance
| and accelerated with age (p 0.015), as was a history of outdoor
| activities and lack of sunscreen use.
|
| Bahman Guyuron et al., "Factors Contributing to the Facial Aging
| of Identical Twins" (2009)
| https://gwern.net/doc/longevity/2009-guyuron.pdf
| cushpush wrote:
| Fantastic. Several halloweens ago I wore vampire fangs and told a
| beautiful girl at a concert that I worked at the local blood
| bank. She said "yeah?" and I followed up with, "would you like to
| make a donation?"
| mannanj wrote:
| Did she make a donation?
| koakuma-chan wrote:
| Smooth
| koakuma-chan wrote:
| > The Suspects Peter Thiel
|
| Has anyone tried garlic on him?
|
| > Vampires don't drink blood because young blood contains an
| elixir. They drink blood because their own blood accumulates
| factors that accelerate aging, and they need to periodically
| dilute it.
|
| I don't think this makes sense. Our bodies do not use the same
| blood forever.
| groby_b wrote:
| > I don't think this [ed:periodical dilution] makes sense. Our
| bodies do not use the same blood forever.
|
| You might want to read up on chaperone-mediated autophagy, and
| how that declines over time. There's a point to be made that
| yes, in old age we collect things in our blood that don't
| belong.
|
| It might not be solvable through dilution, but it's not like we
| get a full blood change every 5K miles either.
| smegger001 wrote:
| as someone that donates plasma twice weekly I wonder what
| health effects of removing and filtering the blood regularly
| has if accumulation of byproducts is a major issue
| jaggederest wrote:
| I believe research has shown that blood and plasma donors
| have mild positive benefits.
| glitchc wrote:
| Not the same blood, but dead cell matter does accumulate in
| plasma over time. The body has active mechanisms that perform
| cleaning: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7392086/
| sgt wrote:
| Imagine showing up to a meeting with Thiel wearing a huge
| garlic and onion necklace.
| koakuma-chan wrote:
| "What important truth do very few people agree with you on?"
|
| "Garlic"
| 0x4e wrote:
| Maybe garlic alludes to the working class.
| maerF0x0 wrote:
| The replication process makes worse and worse copies over time.
| Plus the cleanup crew gets confused and weak. Each bit of aging
| makes the process of keeping you young work less well, and
| hence you age more + faster.
| ASalazarMX wrote:
| Who knew we could coexist with vampires if we give each some
| kind of dialysis machine? Imagine the kind of cultural works
| someone with centuries of experience could create. Imagine a
| vampire historian!
| observationist wrote:
| This is actually one of the mechanisms behind "blood swaps"
| done by the rich and weird. Donating blood frequently also
| reduces various accumulated "factors" that reduce kidney
| stress, encourage healthy new blood, and is overall beneficial
| to health.
|
| Various other mechanisms can improve how effective your body is
| at recycling cells, encouraging autophagy and filtering things
| in the blood. There are a whole suite of various supplements
| and medicines that work in this system.
|
| As undead, though, vampires no longer produce new living blood,
| so require fresh blood of the living to restore lost function.
| Or something.
|
| I guess that'd make Bryan Johnson the ultimate thrall?
| password4321 wrote:
| 20161027
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12809722#12810990 Anti-
| Aging Startup Raises $116M With Bezos Backing
|
| 20170113 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13395478
| Questionable "Young Blood" Transfusions Offered in U.S. As
| Anti-Aging Remedy
|
| 20170421
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14163395#14164470 Mice
| treated with a protein from umbilical cord plasma showed
| improved memory
|
| 20170521 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBA0AH-LSbo Silicon
| Valley S04E05 The Blood Boy
|
| 20170602 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14470314 An
| anti-ageing startup is offering transfusions of blood from
| young people
|
| 20170825 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15102304 Some
| wealthy people are injecting blood from teenagers to gain
| 'immortality'
|
| 20180120 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16194413
| Clinical trial finds blood-plasma infusions for Alzheimer's
| safe, promising
|
| 20180907 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17929462
| Startups Flock to Turn Young Blood into an Elixir of Youth
|
| 20190117 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18929943 Blood
| transfusion startup Ambrosia is now up and running
|
| 20190221 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19213938 FDA
| warning brings young-blood transfusion company to a halt
|
| 20191108 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21484203
| Ambrosia, the Young Blood Transfusion Startup, Is Quietly
| Back in Business (0 comments)
|
| 20230817
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37163684#37164170 Older
| mouse brains rejuvenated by protein found in young blood
| jimnotgym wrote:
| > Has anyone tried garlic on him?
|
| Or indeed daylight
|
| I was going to suggest some other vampire remedies, but I was
| worried Palantir will scan this and tell ICE.
| boutell wrote:
| Flawless logic!
|
| I have a spoiler-tastic fan theory about the movie Marty Supreme
| that is apropos here.
| stuaxo wrote:
| Early chatgpt really did not like it when I asked if Peter Thiel
| was a vampire.
| mystraline wrote:
| It got very "mad" at me. It was funniest thing all day.
|
| Thanks for the recommended chuckle.
| firefoxd wrote:
| I was hoping he would provide some insight about why they avoid
| the sun. From observation, thiel looks like he is getting too
| much sun, or at least his skin has been reengineered like
| Alucard. While Johnson is just cake [0].
|
| Side note: for once, I'm enjoying a heavily AI assisted article.
|
| [0]: you'll have to find that reference on your own.
| prometheus76 wrote:
| Interesting that the author didn't mention anything about stem
| cell injections. Those have been in vogue among the elite for
| decades (millennia?).
| dylan604 wrote:
| How could it be millenia? Have we been able to isolate stem
| cells that long, or are you suggesting feasting on placenta as
| suitable?
| FarmerPotato wrote:
| Yeah... and anytime the narrative switches from transfusion to
| blood-sucking, I object "but what about stomach acid?" Bodies
| break stuff down first.
| lbrito wrote:
| Fun read but I stopped after detecting AI:
|
| "The young blood doesn't add youth. It removes age."
|
| "Feeding isn't nutrition. It's dialysis."
|
| Etc. Why is LLM so enamored with the "Its not x, its Y" idiom?
| Its so ridiculously overused its almost comical
| doodpants wrote:
| The flaw in trying to detect AI by its use of particular idioms
| is that it would have learned these idioms from its training
| corpus, which consists of writings from actual human beings.
|
| In other words, some people actually write like this.
| johnmwilkinson wrote:
| It's not that people don't write like this, it's the over-
| usage and general tone.
| alex_young wrote:
| It's not that "I can detect AI" posts sound more templated
| than the writing they're critiquing, it's the clankers are
| learning from it and adapting.
| uwagar wrote:
| its not that i cant detect your AI detection, its just
| that i cant watch you quietly do it.
| lbrito wrote:
| You're absolutely right!
|
| I have a friend that has used ems all his professional life
| and is livid that they're now a telltale for AI. So yeah,
| false positives.
| lionkor wrote:
| Its not just a telltale sign. Its a fact.
| FarmerPotato wrote:
| Include the Gen Xers who read The Mac Is Not A Typewriter
| in the 90s or were merely into fonts.
|
| Heck, anyone used to a word processor that automatically
| changes dash dash into em-dash.
|
| There's a lot of us that knew how to use em-dash.
| therobots927 wrote:
| Key word here being "some" people. Not nearly at high enough
| frequency that this way of talking was noticeable before. AI
| uses this pattern CONSTANTLY and it's very fucking
| irritating.
| achenet wrote:
| Have you ever met human beings that constantly reuse a
| certain idiom/figure of speech/linguistic pattern?
|
| The valley girl using "like" every other word, for example?
|
| Or I had a colleague who would use the expression "we can
| say" (in French, because we were speaking in French)
| basically every couple sentences for a bit.
|
| Humans _also_ repeat speech /linguistic patterns, therefore
| "repetition of the same pattern" is not sufficient to mark
| text as produced by AI :)
| lbrito wrote:
| Yes but there are a lot more "idiom personalities" in
| humans (you just mentioned several) than there is in AI.
| Basically every English-language interaction with AI
| anywhere in the world produces more or less the same
| argot and style. Its like (heh) we're all talking to the
| same valley girl stereotype.
| machielrey wrote:
| Thank you for your feedback - I will pass it on to my
| ghostwriter.
| downboots wrote:
| It isn't an idiom. It's antithesis.
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_of_speech
| FarmerPotato wrote:
| It is/was common in scam newsletters. My trained scam alert
| now matches AI output...
| xutopia wrote:
| Hemingway writes like that. Hemingway editor encourages that
| kind of style.
| ceayo wrote:
| I'm not really sure if the author (i.e. generative language
| model) is being serious or being sarcastic...
| gpderetta wrote:
| Time to break the Masquerade it seems.
| amarant wrote:
| I think we're witnessing a schism within the vampire community.
| By the end of the article, the author is less than subtle about
| being Dracula, and is trying to use the respect his name no doubt
| commands among vampires to get the unruly youth(relatively
| speaking) to get their shit together. This article is a warning
| to Thiel and Johnson. Dracula sees you, and he does not approve
| of what he sees.
| mac3n wrote:
| see also Floyd Kemske, "Human Resources: A Corporate Nightmare"
|
| https://archive.org/details/HumanResourcesPdf
|
| > Corporate management is the use of humans as resources. So is
| vampirism.
|
| >Biomethods, Inc. is a struggling biotechnology company whose
| venture capital group is growing tired of pumping in new blood
| every quarter.
| FarmerPotato wrote:
| Future: Peter Thiel takes lead to rebrand VC as Vampire
| Capital...
| mlsu wrote:
| Love this concrete interpretation. The symbolic one is maybe more
| interesting:
|
| Vampires:
|
| - Consume the life force of the living to sustain themselves
|
| - Are totally isolated and perverted from any kind of human
| community
|
| - Have no family, no community ties
|
| - Unable to feel love, warmth, connection with any human
|
| - Must avoid spending time in the virtuous natural world
| (daylight, sunlight) and must instead be cordoned off indoors or
| in darkness, they do not live as most natural things do.
|
| - Are kind of fallen/perverted; at one point, they were human,
| but they failed at being human (for instance: unbaptized,
| excommunicated, murderous, etc) and so were forced into exile
| often due to their own choice to live sinfully
|
| Billionaires:
|
| - cannot become a billionaire without thousands/millions of
| regular non-billionaires siphoning money (== time, == life force)
| upwards
|
| - when they become a billionaire they are forced to be distanced
| from their community/family of normal people; middle class people
| are never "regular friends" with billionaires
|
| - either their normal family/friends are 'bitten/infected'
| (wealth inheritance) or cut-off
|
| - often are profoundly isolated on a personal level (are they
| talking to me for my money or for me?)
|
| - often the direct cause of or at least complicit in the
| destruction of the natural world (i.e. cut off from sunlight;
| unnatural)
|
| - often must make unethical or immoral choices to catapult
| themselves to wealth/powers (fallen, sinful)
| austinjp wrote:
| > Stoker, a theatre manager with no medical background, somehow
| described the basic mechanism of heterochronic parabiosis
|
| Just to pick a nit...
|
| Stoker's story was inspired by "The Vampyre" by physician John
| Polidori, who doubtless knew whatever his contemporary medics
| knew about blood.
|
| Polidori, Lord Byron, and Mary Shelley told scary stories to each
| other by Lake Geneva in 1816, the "year without a summer". It
| couldn't get more gothic.
|
| https://publicdomainreview.org/essay/the-poet-the-physician-...
| giraffe_lady wrote:
| Something I've wondered for a long time: Can a vampire enter your
| home uninvited if they are a cop with a warrant?
| FarmerPotato wrote:
| I first read that as "cop without a warrant". Sign of the
| times.
| sgt101 wrote:
| The novels Blindsight & Echopraxis by Peter Watts have a nice
| vampire sub-plot... basically his world has vampires which have
| been revived from the fossil record. They are posited to have
| gone extinct in recent times, but before then were human's key
| predator, keeping our populations strongly in check and then
| having to hibernate for decades to allow the breeding to provide
| new meat!
|
| He's super interested in brain disorders and spins a good story
| about the trade offs of a terrible reaction to right angles in
| exchange for savant like powers of perception.
| vict7 wrote:
| I have not read Echopraxis yet, but I thoroughly enjoyed
| Blindsight. Some very thought-provoking concepts in that book.
|
| The idea that vampires needed to take "anti-Euclideans" and the
| way the ship was constructed to avoid generating right angles
| were some great details.
| Baeocystin wrote:
| Just a heads up, don't go in to Echopraxia expecting it to
| feel like Blindsight. When I first read it, I was actually
| pretty disappointed overall, and a few of my friends had
| similar reactions.
|
| Over a couple of years a few re-reads, though, I've come to
| enjoy it perhaps even more that Blindsight, but in a
| completely different way. It fills out a lot of the posits
| opened in the first novel, without coming to specific
| conclusions, but it gives you a lot to think about.
| red75prime wrote:
| I can't believe I haven't seen this yet:
| https://blindsight.space/memories/
| sgt101 wrote:
| It never occurred to me to see if there was a film!
|
| Mind you even more amazing I was on youtube yesterday and a
| short film showing the first chapter of the brand new book
| (published really recently) that I was reading popped up.
|
| Now I see that there is not only that film (in the DUST
| series) but also a miniseries someone has made...
|
| https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=antimemetics+di.
| ..
| ceejayoz wrote:
| He even did a full academic-style presentation about the
| vampires that's on YouTube.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEOUaJW05bU
| bazillion wrote:
| "But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the
| Son of man be." (Matthew 24:37)
|
| More and more, you are seeing what occurred in the time of Noah
| become commonplace to talk about under the guise of technology.
| In Noah's day, there was a hybridization program to dilute the
| blood of man to prevent the coming of the Messiah, but Noah was
| "perfect in his generations", or not part of the hybrid lines
| branching off of humanity. And now, what is old has become new
| again.
|
| The article might address the topic in satire, but there is a
| truth that is being touched on in it that is hard to look at --
| the use [devouring of, injection of, swapping out of,
| ritualization of, etc.] human blood and tissue is happening right
| under our noses, and it's nothing new. The vampires lore did not
| just come out of some sort of novel work of fiction or a
| novelization of a fable, but is rooted in something that is very,
| very real. Vampire-like beings existed in the pre-flood
| (antediluvian) days, but now only exist in spirit after their
| bodies were destroyed by the flood. The spirits, desiring to be
| embodied, now go about the rituals of what once created them all
| over again, so that we might have a new generation of their brand
| of evil come forth.
|
| What you're witnessing on a large scale through global politics
| is the public-facing humiliation ritual of mankind being carried
| out by the fallen angels and those under them that long sought
| our destruction: 1) The epstein file information
| showing all sorts of satanic/luciferian references, as well as
| possible cannibalism 2) Xi and Putin discussing organ
| harvesting benefits (implying an underlying focus on it)
| 3) Congressional disclosure of inter-dimensional beings existing
| and being unexplainable. 4) The saturation of things that
| would have been considered unabased debauchery in generations
| past being put into every facet of culture as if coordinated
|
| If you even give credence to _one_ of the things I listed, then
| you 're keenly aware that it's nearly impossible to talk to
| anyone about that topic unless they've self-selected into a
| social group that already believes that that thing is wrong.
| Others embrace one or more of the topics as a positive thing,
| such as welcoming the idea of inter-dimensional beings, or
| furthering human lifespans through genomic editing, or even just
| promoting the type of debauchery that would have had entire
| cities leveled in Old Testament times.
|
| But, this has all been prophesied to happen, and is happening
| exactly as it is spoken of. The truth is being suppressed, even
| within ones own mind, because a person of the world of today does
| not love the truth. There is only one way to enter in to the
| truth, which is to begin seeking the person whose very name is
| Faithful and True (Revelation 19:11). According to the following
| verses, to not do so would lead one into a delusion from which
| there is no escape:
|
| "The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of
| Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all
| unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did
| not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And
| for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they
| should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did
| not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness." (2
| Thessalonians 2:9-12)
| otikik wrote:
| Nicely put, I hope you have very potent solar lamps at home
| sandworm101 wrote:
| Vampire therapy is real. Give an old person an infusion from a
| closely-matched teenager and they improve by almost every metric.
| This isnt speculation. It is a noted side effect of any treatment
| invovling transfusion. (It also helps that older immune systems
| are less active and react less dramatically to forgien blood.)
| rbanffy wrote:
| As a member of a prominent Transylvanian family, I am appalled,
| and profoundly offended, by the idea of someone even as much as
| suspecting Peter Thiel could be a vampire. He might be an evil
| bloodsucking parasite, but he lacks the sophistication mortals
| have come to associate with vampires over the centuries. It's
| shocking, really, that some people might confuse him with one.
| bloomingeek wrote:
| Hisss...I mean, amen! I bet that scumbag has never eaten a bowl
| of Count Chocula either.
| an-allen wrote:
| Oh there are vampires. They are very old. But they are mostly
| illusions of light. Once the veil is removed the disappointment
| of hell sets in. Smoke, mirrors, DNA, sound.
|
| The French people didn't invest the most elaborate head chopping
| off machine for just spectacle...
| amoss wrote:
| Reasonable hypothesis. Supported by data. Seems legit
| holografix wrote:
| Incredibly sad to lear that Peter Thiel owns so much land in one
| of the earth's most beautiful places.
|
| If I was a kiwi I would be livid at the government allowing this
| purchase to go through.
| oxag3n wrote:
| Hard to tell if it's a sarcasm or not.
| TurdF3rguson wrote:
| I'm convinced that those weird purple blotches on POTUS's hands
| are caused by transfusions from his blood boy.
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