[HN Gopher] Why is the sky blue?
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       Why is the sky blue?
        
       Author : udit99
       Score  : 334 points
       Date   : 2026-02-09 15:39 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
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       | ranger_danger wrote:
       | Here is a wonderful lecture with real-world demonstrations of the
       | effect:
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a0FbQdH3dY
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayleigh_scattering
       | 
       | I do have a question though.
       | 
       | The article says:
       | 
       | > blue and violet have the closest frequencies to a "resonant
       | frequency" of nitrogen and oxygen molecules's electron clouds
       | 
       | I thought it was more to do with the photon frequency matching
       | the physical size of the air molecules? Or is that the same as
       | its resonant frequency?
        
         | AndrewKemendo wrote:
         | Fs is the frequency at which whatever your measuring is most
         | efficient at vibrating
         | 
         | So it's a combination of the composition of the thing and the
         | environmental coupling with other vibrating things
         | 
         | Size and material composition are the primary factors
         | 
         | So for this case, the photon spectrum interact with nitrogen-
         | oxygen mixture most efficiently at the frequency that reflects
         | blue
         | 
         | I mostly studied sound frequency mixing with static objects
         | (matching or cancelling the fs of room/space with the fs of a
         | driver) but the principles of resonance hold across media
        
         | pfdietz wrote:
         | Air molecules are much smaller than the wavelength of visible
         | light, by several orders of magnitude. This is why you can't
         | resolve individual molecules in an optical microscope, and why
         | photolithography with visible light doesn't go down to
         | molecular feature sizes.
        
         | renewiltord wrote:
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a0FbQdH3dY&t=2038
         | 
         | Direct link to timestamp 33:56
        
       | dave_sid wrote:
       | It's not. It's raining here.
        
       | KellyCriterion wrote:
       | Interesting here is: Actually, for most blue butterflies, it's
       | not even a pigment-it's just a trick of the light. Since blue is
       | so rare in the biological world (hardly any plants or animals can
       | produce real blue chemicals), they evolved structural colors.
       | Their wings have these microscopic ridges that reflect blue light
       | while canceling out other colors.
       | 
       | It's basically the same reason the sky looks blue, just built
       | into a wing. If you were to look at the wings from a different
       | angle or get them wet, the blue often disappears because you're
       | messing with that physical structure
        
         | Sharlin wrote:
         | Not just butterflies, birds too! But what selection pressure
         | drove the evolution of these structural colors? Presumably
         | signaling, the opposite of muted, camouflaging colors.
         | 
         | Also, as many might know, blue eyes are the result of a lack of
         | pigment (eumelanin). The iris is translucent, but Rayleigh
         | scattering preferentially backscatters blue photons. Green eyes
         | have some pigment, making them a mix of brown and blue.
        
           | adrian_b wrote:
           | Also the blood veins that you see as bluish through the skin
           | are blue for the same reason, due to light scattered in their
           | walls.
        
             | varispeed wrote:
             | I thought they are green.
        
               | SAI_Peregrinus wrote:
               | Definitely more blue/purple.
        
         | jjtheblunt wrote:
         | It's also the trick employed by Iridigm, which Qualcomm
         | acquired in late 2004 (i was there then).
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interferometric_modulator_disp...
        
           | amelius wrote:
           | I'm curious how they were able to patent a technique invented
           | by nature millions of years ago.
        
             | jjtheblunt wrote:
             | the displays have an array of switchable mirrors
             | individually addressable, unlike nature in this case.
             | 
             | (but sort of like chromophores in an octopus or cuttlefish,
             | perhaps).
        
               | amelius wrote:
               | I see, but those MEMs mirrors were already invented.
        
               | moron4hire wrote:
               | Inventions can be useful recombinations or applications
               | of other inventions. They don't need to be wholly unique
               | unto themselves. Indeed, the vast majority of them are
               | not wholly unique.
        
               | amelius wrote:
               | We're talking about a millions year old invention here.
        
       | RupertSalt wrote:
       | Obligatory xkcd: "Sky Color" https://m.xkcd.com/1145/
       | 
       | Obligatory xkcd[2]: "Rayleigh Scattering"
       | https://m.xkcd.com/1818/
       | 
       | Others?
        
         | margalabargala wrote:
         | The "Rayleigh Scattering" comic is really spot on.
         | 
         | Air is blue. The reason air is blue is blah blah blah physics,
         | see the article we're all commenting on, but at the end of the
         | day air is blue. We don't demand the same elaborate physics
         | questions for why a ripe banana peel is yellow.
        
           | zokier wrote:
           | Not really. If the explanation was "air is blue" then the
           | naive expectation would be that sun would appear blue against
           | blackish background, basically the image of sun is being
           | filtered through the atmosphere; if sun is white and air is
           | blue then white filtered through blue should be blue? But sun
           | appears yellowish against blue background. So clearly
           | something different is going on.
        
           | lovecg wrote:
           | Though is some cases it is a very interesting question, like
           | why gold and copper the color they are instead of being
           | boring and silvery like all the other metals?
        
           | gh5000 wrote:
           | But a banana is yellow for a very different reason (and a
           | much easier to explain reason) than why the sky is blue. And
           | air isn't blue, because it's red at the end of the day?
        
       | justin_dash wrote:
       | For the sunset example then, a natural question (for me) is then
       | why isn't the sky _green_ in the transition from blue sky to red
       | sunset sky?
        
         | teraflop wrote:
         | Because the color of the sky is determined by a shifting
         | _mixture_ of wavelengths, not a single shifting wavelength.
         | 
         | Basically, the scattering process that "remove" blue from the
         | spectrum also removes green, albeit to a lesser extent. There
         | are _some_ greenish and yellowish wavelengths in the sunset
         | sky, but they 're dominated by red, so the overall color
         | appears red or orange.
         | 
         | In order for the sky to look noticeably green, there would have
         | to be something that scattered reds _and_ blues, without
         | significantly absorbing green.
         | 
         | If you try to interpolate between sky-blue and orange using
         | graphics software, the result depends on what "color space"
         | you're using. If your software interpolates based on hue, you
         | might see green (or purple) in the middle. But that's not
         | physically realistic.
         | 
         | A realistic model is to interpolate each wavelength of the
         | continuous spectrum separately. Interpolating in RGB color
         | space is a crude approximation to this. And if you try the
         | experiment, you'll see that the midpoint between sky-blue and
         | orange is a kind of muddy brown, not green.
        
         | photonic37 wrote:
         | Your intuition isn't far off; there is an angle where the
         | weight of green relative to the sum over wavelengths sees a
         | local maximum. But it doesn't dominate. In that transition
         | zone, there is still an overlapping, transitioning abundance of
         | redder and bluer wavelengths, adding with the green.
         | Consequently, you see red, going into a red+green transition
         | (== oranges, yellows), go into into a green+blue transition (==
         | cyan), which already has few photons relative to the red and
         | yellow zones, so it's a dark/weak cyan, before it blends into
         | the darker blue of the night sky.
        
         | adornKey wrote:
         | You won't get a green sky, but at least there is a
         | meteorological optical phenomenon called the green flash around
         | sunset. To see it, I think, you have to know what you're
         | looking for - and you need good conditions.
        
         | michael1999 wrote:
         | It can be - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_flash
        
           | s0rce wrote:
           | That's refraction not scattering though.
        
         | seanalltogether wrote:
         | Blue + Green + Red = White
         | 
         | Green + Red = Yellow
         | 
         | Red = Red
         | 
         | That is the natural transition from overhead sun to sunset as
         | each higher energy wavelength gets cut off more and more. When
         | blue is mostly gone and green starts to fade we call it the
         | Golden Hour.
        
       | jonahx wrote:
       | Going to be _that guy_ , even though I think this is a really
       | nice work overall...
       | 
       | But the winking and "cool guy" emojis are so grating. In general,
       | technical explanations that apologize for themselves with
       | constant reassurances like "don't worry" and "it's actually
       | simple" undermine their own aim.
       | 
       | Your job -- if you're making content for people with double digit
       | ages -- is to make the explanation as clear as you can, not to
       | patronize and emotionally hand-hold the reader.
        
         | jph00 wrote:
         | No, your job is to help your reader get to the end of the text.
         | That means writing in a way that most of your audience finds
         | compelling, readable, and not intimidating.
         | 
         | Not all readers are the same, so you will fail at your job for
         | some readers.
         | 
         | But few readers are emotionless automatons that need nothing
         | but dry technical content, unless it's a topic they are very
         | motivated to understand.
        
           | jonahx wrote:
           | > That means writing in a way that most of your audience
           | finds compelling, readable, and not intimidating.
           | 
           | I would agree with that. And I think emojis and unnecessary
           | reassurances subvert that goal. It's fluff, it's more to
           | read, and if the writing isn't already clear, they don't fix
           | the problem.
           | 
           | > But few readers are emotionless automatons that need
           | nothing but dry technical content
           | 
           | Nothing in my post argues for dry technical content.
           | 
           | Bartosz Ciechanowski's superb work, which may have inspired
           | the author, gets the balance just right without any hand-
           | holding asides:
           | 
           | https://ciechanow.ski/mechanical-watch/
        
       | nemo1618 wrote:
       | Let's be real. The sky is blue because God thought it was a
       | pretty color, simple as. All this stuff about wavelengths and
       | resonant frequencies and human color perception got retconned
       | into the physics engine at some point in the past millennium,
       | that's why all these epicycles are needed.
        
         | IceCoffe wrote:
         | Our lord Zeus always thinks of everything
        
           | dekhn wrote:
           | His noodly appendage touches all.
        
         | adolph wrote:
         | > thought it was a pretty color
         | 
         | So was blue intrinsically pretty and thus made into the sky, or
         | considered pretty and thus imprinted in the minds of humans
         | that way?
        
       | staplung wrote:
       | In _The Cuckoo 's Egg_ Cliff Stoll recounts an episode from the
       | oral defense of his astrophysics PhD thesis. A bunch of people
       | ask questions but one prof holds back until...
       | 
       | """ "I've got just one question, Cliff," he says, carving his way
       | through the Eberhard-Faber. "Why is the sky blue?"
       | 
       | My mind is absolutely, profoundly blank. I have no idea. I look
       | out the window at the sky with the primitive, uncomprehending
       | wonder of a Neanderthal contemplating fire. I force myself to say
       | something--anything. "Scattered light," I reply. "Uh, yeah,
       | scattered sunlight."
       | 
       | "Could you be more specific?"
       | 
       | Well, words came from somewhere, out of some deep instinct of
       | self-preservation. I babbled about the spectrum of sunlight, the
       | upper atmosphere, and how light interacts with molecules of air.
       | 
       | "Could you be more specific?"
       | 
       | I'm describing how air molecules have dipole moments, the wave-
       | particle duality of light, scribbling equations on the
       | blackboard, and . . .
       | 
       | "Could you be more specific?"
       | 
       | An hour later, I'm sweating hard. His simple question--a five-
       | year-old's question--has drawn together oscillator theory,
       | electricity and magnetism, thermodynamics, even quantum
       | mechanics. Even in my miserable writhing, I admired the guy...
       | """
        
         | ecshafer wrote:
         | "Could you be more specific" is a great question to find out
         | more what the person knows and how they thing. You give an
         | answer that, just due to the nature of knowledge and the
         | limitation of language, has some black boxes. And "could you be
         | more specific" is basically asking to go through the black
         | boxes.
         | 
         | Its like asking how does Java work or something like that? You
         | can go from "The JVM interprets java byte code" to quite a lot
         | of depth on how various parts work if you have enough
         | knowledge.
        
           | leeoniya wrote:
           | i used something like this in unstructured technical
           | interviews all the time.
           | 
           | "you type a phrase into google search, you press enter, get
           | some results. tell me, in technical detail, what happened in
           | that chain of actions"
           | 
           | the diversity of replies is fascinating, you learn a lot
           | about a "full stack" candidate this way.
           | 
           | Feynman's classic "Why?" chain:
           | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36GT2zI8lVA
        
             | SAI_Peregrinus wrote:
             | I'd probably spend at least 20 minutes just to get through
             | how the keyboard works, much more if it's a USB-HID device.
        
               | dmd wrote:
               | Hah - that is exactly what I did. Someone asked me this
               | question and after 5 minutes in the weeds of the debounce
               | on the mouse click they said "look all we wanted was to
               | find out if you'd ever heard of DNS, let's move on, that
               | was great".
        
               | leeoniya wrote:
               | the good ones would usually follow up with, "how much
               | detail do you _really_ want ;D"
        
           | HPsquared wrote:
           | It's reminds me of that scene from Fargo: "He was kinda funny
           | lookin'" ... "Could ya be any more specific?"
        
         | SAI_Peregrinus wrote:
         | It also needs a bit of biology. Our eyes don't have a flat
         | response over frequency, they're more sensitive to blue than
         | violet. Violet gets scattered even more than blue, and the
         | violet light does shift our perception of the color. But it
         | does so _less than it would if we had photoreceptors more
         | sensitive to violet_ , so the resulting perceptual color
         | depends not just on the intensity of the light at different
         | frequencies but also on our particular biology. People with
         | tritanopia (blue-yellow color blindness) don't have blue-
         | sensitive cones (S cones) and thus to them _there is no
         | perceived blue_. Not to mention the linguistic history of the
         | word  "blue" and why English uses "blue" instead of "Qing " or
         | some other word, the questions around qualia & what it means to
         | perceive color, etc.
        
           | reactordev wrote:
           | The real question is, is the sky blue for everyone? Some
           | creatures can see ultraviolet. Some lack color at all...
        
         | jstummbillig wrote:
         | I am positively excited about the upcoming first generation of
         | humans who will have all their questions answered, correctly
         | and in the way they can best understand, and as often and many
         | of them as they want - and what that is going to enable.
        
           | brabel wrote:
           | The same anticipation of great things happening preceded the
           | arrival of widely available internet, but all we really got
           | was cat videos initially, and doomscrolling more recently. I
           | don't have much hope for great things anymore.
        
             | reactordev wrote:
             | We got more than that. We got 24/7 surveillance.
        
           | ryanmcbride wrote:
           | Me too but I don't think these sorts of Solved Society
           | endgames are likely to show up. Basically presents the same
           | issue with a utopia.
           | 
           | Progression and regression are always going to be at war with
           | each other. There will always be humans that want to hurt
           | instead of help, there will always be humans who TRY to help
           | but ultimately hurt. There will always be misinformation,
           | there will always be lies, and there will always be liars.
           | 
           | The good news is there will also always be people trying to
           | pull humanity forwards, to help other people, to save lives,
           | to eradicate disease, educate, and expose the truth.
           | 
           | I don't think society will ever be solved in the way you're
           | saying because there will always be hurtful people, but there
           | will also always be good people to keep up the fight.
        
           | kakacik wrote:
           | ... and due to that, people will not appreciate all the
           | knowledge, we will take it as air - invisible but cut the
           | access in a myriad ways and its a catastrophe.
           | 
           | We value what we achieve with effort, I would say
           | proportionally to energy put in (certainly true for me, thus
           | I like harder efforts in activities and ie sport climbing).
        
           | Starlevel004 wrote:
           | When is that going to be?
        
       | archildress wrote:
       | Anyone else immediately think of this commercial?
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbKsC4GCT5k
       | 
       | *Since blue is the shortest wave length...*
        
       | retroflexzy wrote:
       | Back in my youth, after the Internet became common but before
       | Wikipedia, I tried to discover the answer to this and came away
       | disappointed again and again. Every article I could find simply
       | stated "because light scattering", and barely much more.
       | 
       | How does scattering work? Why does light scatter? _What does
       | scattering even mean in the context of light?_
        
         | erikdkennedy wrote:
         | Yes! This is _exactly_ why I wrote this article :)
         | 
         | Any other questions give you the same disappointment?
        
           | beders wrote:
           | How can light "bounce off" something if it doesn't have mass?
        
       | alejohausner wrote:
       | Air is mostly nitrogen. Nitrogen gas is blue.
       | 
       | There.
        
         | pbhjpbhj wrote:
         | Go watch a video of nitrogen gas evaporating from liquid
         | nitrogen ... tell me what colour you see?
        
         | mjanx123 wrote:
         | Oxygen is blue actually. That only contributes to the sky
         | blueness a little tho.
        
       | TuringNYC wrote:
       | Brilliant explanation and beautifully presented. I wish I had a
       | technical writer who could write up our business case this well!
        
         | erikdkennedy wrote:
         | I'm the writer of the article, and happy to chat. Email is my
         | username at gmail.
        
           | liquidise wrote:
           | Your blog layout, particularly on desktop, is brilliant.
        
             | erikdkennedy wrote:
             | My day job is UI design, so I especially appreciate this
             | 
             | (Is there something in particular you're referring to? I
             | feel like sticky nav and sidenotes aren't particularly
             | unusual?)
        
       | codeulike wrote:
       | In terms of "qualia", its the other way round probably? Like the
       | way we see colours would have evolved (within the available
       | environment of wavelengths and scatterings and the possibilities
       | with rods and cones) so that the things we want to see are more
       | likely to stand out. So we see the sky as blue because leaves are
       | green and berries are red.
        
         | jonahx wrote:
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV-KiTAAcrY
        
       | numpad0 wrote:
       | Funniest memory re: Rayleigh scattering: in anime show _Aldnoah
       | Zero_ , the uber-genius protagonist mansplains about it to a high
       | profile girl, basically completely out of blue. An impostor of
       | the girl later appears on an in-universe pirate broadcast, making
       | an agitating environmentalism talking point using a technically
       | incorrect explanation of the phenomenon that isn't consistent
       | with the fact. The ever-right protagonist immediately notices it,
       | having enlightened the girl previously on that exact topic, and
       | it leads to actions.
       | 
       | Like, dude, as if anyone would care about such a highly technical
       | point, like eg some React framework quirk or race condition
       | mitigation for specific generation of Intel procesdor or a semi-
       | well known edge cases with btrfs inode behavior, even if I had
       | been on that exact camp.
        
       | signa11 wrote:
       | didn't cv raman prove just that via his raman-effect for which he
       | got the noble prize ?
        
       | munificent wrote:
       | Really cool article! Tangential:
       | 
       |  _> "Scattering" is the scientific term of art for molecules
       | deflecting photons. Linguistically, it's used somewhat
       | inconsistently. You'll hear both "blue light scatters more" (the
       | subject is the light) and "atmospheric molecules scatter blue
       | light more" (the subject is the molecule). In any case, they
       | means the same thing _
       | 
       | There's nothing ambiguous or inconsistent about this. In English
       | a verb is _transitive_ if it takes one or more objects in
       | addition to the subject. In  "Anna carries a book", "carries" is
       | transitive. A verb is _intransivite_ if it takes no object as
       | with  "jumps" in "The frog jumps.".
       | 
       | Many verbs in English are "ambitransitive" where they can either
       | take an object or not, and the meaning often shifts depending on
       | how it's used. There is a whole category of verbs called "labile
       | verbs" where the subject of the intransitive form becomes the
       | object of the transitive form:
       | 
       | * Intransitive: The bell rang.
       | 
       | * Transitive: John rang the bell.
       | 
       | "Scatter" is simply a labile verb:
       | 
       | * Intransitive: Blue light scatters.
       | 
       | * Transitive: Atmospheric molecules scatter blue light more.
        
         | erikdkennedy wrote:
         | TIL!
         | 
         |  _Debates whether to update the sidenote with an explainer on
         | ambitransitive and labile verbs_
        
         | kazinator wrote:
         | There are many verbs like this, and English is somewhat open
         | toward using verbs that way, or becoming so.
         | 
         | Did English speakers say "this novel reads well" two, three
         | hundred years ago?
        
         | suzzer99 wrote:
         | Now do clam steamers and shrimp fried rice.
        
         | srean wrote:
         | I have always wondered about this. The verb for the first
         | person is to 'see'. To a third person you 'show'
         | 
         | For the first person there is 'listen' (or 'hear'). Does
         | English not have a corresponding word for the third person ?
         | 
         | What about Germanaic or Nordic languages ? Do they have a third
         | person analogue of 'listen' ?
        
           | smlavine wrote:
           | "tell"?
        
             | srean wrote:
             | Ah! That's not bad but it's not the same thing. Good
             | nevertheless.
             | 
             | I can 'show' (or point someone to a) a sight that I am not
             | myself creating in anyway. The word I am looking for would
             | mean to 'make you hear' in the same may to show is to make
             | you see.
             | 
             | I showed him the distant tower.
             | 
             | I ??? him the faint sound.
        
               | ccozan wrote:
               | play?
               | 
               | I played him the faint sound.
        
           | onestay42 wrote:
           | AFAIK listen used to be used therefor[sic] but it has fallen
           | out of use nowadays. From wiktionary:
           | 
           | > Listen the watchman's cry upon the wall.
           | 
           | Edit: formatting
        
             | srean wrote:
             | 'Hear the watchman's cry upon the wall' works the same way,
             | no ?
             | 
             | I have clarified what I am looking for in a cousin comment.
        
         | tsoukase wrote:
         | Labile verbs is a source of ambiguity of natural languages
         | (only western ones?) that we are all accustomed to.
         | 
         | The bell rang should become The bell was rung, either way it
         | means The bell rang another bell.
        
           | GuinansEyebrows wrote:
           | "the bell was rung" illustrates a cause (and introduces a
           | question: who rang the bell?)
           | 
           | "the bell rang" illustrates an effect (the vibration and
           | sound of the bell as it rings).
           | 
           | i think this is more an illustration of the ambiguity of the
           | root word "ring", which can be an action by a subject upon an
           | object, or to describe the behavior of the object itself.
        
       | rob74 wrote:
       | Great article! I have to admit I had also heard of "Rayleigh
       | scattering", but didn't really know more than that, until today.
       | 
       | Actually, I liked it so much that I went to the homepage of the
       | blog, only to find out that this is the only article. Oh well...
       | I hope there will be more to come!
        
         | erikdkennedy wrote:
         | There will be! Requests welcome!
         | 
         | (I will almost certainly do one on quantum mechanics, but
         | that's such a big explanation that I want to do some simpler
         | ones first)
        
       | aaroninsf wrote:
       | Not discussed but should be:
       | 
       | Prior to the great oxygenation event, Earth's sky was not blue;
       | it was likely red-orange, carbon dioxide and methane being
       | primary components.
        
       | kazinator wrote:
       | It's also not just why the setting or rising sun is red, but why
       | it's yellow when high in the sky. The sun doesn't look yellow
       | when viewed from outside the atmospheric veil.
        
       | Jun8 wrote:
       | This was great as it went farther than Rayleigh scattering. On
       | this topic you have to watch this fantastic undergrad physics
       | lecture demonstration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJG-
       | rXBbmCc&t=1674s
        
       | oxag3n wrote:
       | The same reason it's polarized.
        
       | jama211 wrote:
       | Brilliant, thank you
        
       | deafpolygon wrote:
       | Very well explained. I love the in-depthness of the article.
        
       | FrogWizardMan wrote:
       | to piss me off, goddammit
        
       | halis wrote:
       | Nitrogen.
        
       | oxag3n wrote:
       | I have a related but deeper question about sun and colors:
       | 
       | Sunlight in space is considered white. When it reaches earth
       | surface, it's considered a warmer color. Why human eyes that
       | never (during evolution) saw sunlight without the atmosphere,
       | consider it true white, and not colder color?
        
         | zehaeva wrote:
         | I think at this point you need to consider how the human eye
         | see color. It's not like each wavelength gets picked up and
         | then communicated perfectly.
         | 
         | (I'm going to skip over some basic stuff, and use some
         | generalities)
         | 
         | Each Cone in the eye responds to a range of frequencies. This
         | means that things that unless it's on the extreme low, or high,
         | end of the frequencies that the human eye can discern you are
         | going to have two, or all three, Cone types responding. The
         | strength of those responses is what your brain uses to
         | interpret the color that you see.
         | 
         | The real problem is that out in space there is no attenuation
         | of sunlight, it's bright. Super crazy bright. It basically
         | overloads all of your Cones, and Rods, all at once, there is no
         | way for your brain to find a signal of "oh there's more higher
         | wavelengths here so interpret bluer than normal" because all of
         | the signals got maxed out. If you max out all of the signals,
         | you get white. It doesn't matter that in absolute terms there's
         | more blue, the lower and mid frequencies are also maxed out.
        
         | 16bytes wrote:
         | Is it considered a warmer color on the surface?
         | 
         | Mid-day sun in a clear sky is very white, in the 5k-6k color
         | temperature range. It's hard to get a sense of how white it is
         | because of how bright it is. In fact, the color temperature on
         | the surface can be even higher than in outer-space!
         | 
         | Compare this to a "warm" light bulb, which is around 2.5K.
         | Sunrise/sunset is also around that range.
         | 
         | Perhaps the "warm color" sun mindset comes from the only times
         | that people can look directly at it. That is to say, around
         | sunrise or sunset.
        
         | mncharity wrote:
         | Perhaps because one's world is often blue-lit? While whole-
         | hemisphere illumination generalizes as warmer, local conditions
         | vary. Absent _direct_ (yellow-ish) sunlight, outdoor daylight
         | illumination can be quite blue-ish. I 've had fun recently with
         | photos in a park under clear blue skies, shadowed by tall
         | buildings... but with a gap, resulting in a narrow strip of
         | bright sunlit ground. My phone will take a bit of sunlit snow
         | as its whitepoint, and provide a blue-tinted world. Similarly
         | for sunlit buildings in background.
        
       | mvdtnz wrote:
       | Some of the demonstrations are not working correctly, at least on
       | my machine (Windows + MS Edge). Any demo with a "reference image"
       | is not correctly updating the reference.
        
       | yawpitch wrote:
       | The sky isn't blue. It's transparent. That's why you can see
       | stars that aren't blue at night. When struck by sunlight at the
       | right angles it _appears_ blue, but saying it is blue is like
       | saying the ocean is green when a bucket of it clearly isn't.
        
       | awesomelybad wrote:
       | Implementing an atmospheric shader in three.js is a fun way get
       | an understanding of the interaction of the different scattering
       | components, light, and observer's position. Plus you get a pretty
       | cool effect to play around with after you're done.
        
         | asqueella wrote:
         | The explanation that made it click for me a while ago was by
         | someone who implemented a shader
         | https://www.alanzucconi.com/2017/10/10/atmospheric-scatterin...
         | -- the explanations that don't end up producing an image all
         | seemed to skip over one detail or another.
        
           | mncharity wrote:
           | > the explanations that don't end up producing an image all
           | seemed to skip over one detail or another.
           | 
           | Implementation can be wonderfully useful as both a test of,
           | and a forcing function for, really understanding something.
           | At least when groundtruth is available.
        
       | 9dev wrote:
       | So, does that mean, and bear with me here, that... air is blue?
        
       | zkmon wrote:
       | Okay, why does visible light have that range of frequencies?
        
         | smegger001 wrote:
         | because they are the frequencies that pass though water most
         | readily, and we are made of mostly water
        
           | jet98 wrote:
           | that's interesting. I thought it was because our sun's
           | spectrum has the most energy in visible light band -
           | therefore we evolved to see the light which can give us the
           | highest SNR.
           | 
           | Can you be more specific?
        
       | hintymad wrote:
       | This level if geekiness is amazing. I hope more, a lot more,
       | Americans can get into STEMS with this level of passion. It's sad
       | that in the past few decades more and more people seemed to
       | forget that STEM is a pillar of the modern civilization that we
       | enjoy.
        
       | IshKebab wrote:
       | If you think about it "because air is blue when you look at it
       | from the side" is about all the explanation we'd require if the
       | sky was some normal object like an apple. Nobody asks "why is
       | wood brown?" as if it's some deep question, but "why is the sky
       | blue?" is somehow given greater gravitas, as if the reason is
       | more mystical. I guess because the sky is so big and uniform?
        
         | erikdkennedy wrote:
         | It could also be this sorta thought:
         | 
         | "There's air in my room, it appears transparent. The sky is
         | made of air, it appears blue. Why the difference"
        
       | Darkphibre wrote:
       | I always loved this question when I played the 'Why' game with my
       | kids: They ask why, and I'd ELI5. Then they'd ask why, and the
       | process continued until I could excitedly say "We don't know for
       | sure!! We think it might be XYZ, but we're still exploring that
       | frontier."
        
       | manojlds wrote:
       | So are there animals that see a violet sky?
        
       | thoughtlede wrote:
       | I think we can simplify the answer to this question for most
       | audience and say "the air is blue".
       | 
       | If they say, the air appears to be clear when I stare at
       | something other than sky, the answer is you need more of air to
       | be able to see its blue-ness, in much the same way that a small
       | amount of murky water in your palm appears clear, but a lot of it
       | does not.
       | 
       | If they ask, why don't I see that blue-ness at dawn or dusk, the
       | answer is that the light source is at a different angle. The
       | color of most objects changes when the light source is at a flat
       | angle. And sun lights hits at a flat angle at dawn and dusk.
       | 
       | If they ask, what exactly is the inside phenomenon to see the sky
       | color to be blue, then explanations like this blog are relevant.
       | 
       | If they ask, what exactly is a color, the answer is that it is a
       | fiction made up by our brain.
        
       | tehjoker wrote:
       | This is a really great piece, the bit at the end showing why IR
       | works in smokey environments and guessing the planet's
       | composition based on color was really good.
        
       | b_brief wrote:
       | Good explanation of Rayleigh scattering, but I find many
       | summaries miss that the scattering cross-section goes as
       | wavelength, which is why blue light is so much more affected than
       | red.
        
       | thot_experiment wrote:
       | the pupil asked, why is the sky blue? the master answered,
       | because the sun is yellow, and the pupil was enlightened
        
       | Night_Thastus wrote:
       | This was both very informative, easy to understand, _and_ fun to
       | read! That 's a winning combo. I now know a bit more about why
       | the sky is the color it is.
       | 
       | Thank you for making it. :)
       | 
       | (The blog post, that is, not the sky. If you made the sky -
       | please let me know!)
        
       | mrb wrote:
       | I dislike with passion the answer "because Rayleigh scattering".
       | When someone asks why, especially if a child asks, the default
       | answer should be the _simplest correct answer_ :
       | 
       | Because it's the color of the atmosphere, specifically nitrogen
       | and oxygen! It's technically correct to state this.
       | 
       | Gasp! But aren't nitrogen and oxygen usually described as
       | "colorless"? Well, yes but... If they were truly colorless, the
       | sky would be black. It's technically more correct to describe
       | them as _nearly_ colorless and very slightly blue. Very slightly
       | because you need to see through kilometers of atmosphere to
       | perceive the blue. It doesn 't matter if the color is caused by
       | absorption, or reflection, or (Rayleigh) scattering of certain
       | wavelengths. The "color" of an object is simply the color you
       | perceive with your eyes. If you perceive blue, it's technically
       | correct to say its color is blue.
       | 
       | It's like saying plants are green because green is the color of
       | chlorophyll. And in the case of chlorophyll, the color is caused
       | by absorption not by scattering. But the physics is irrelevant.
       | Green is its color.
       | 
       | Q: But sunsets/sunrises are red & orange not blue! A: the
       | simplest answer is: color of an object can change under different
       | light conditions. Specifically in this example, when seeing the
       | sun through not kilometers but hundred of kilometers of
       | atmosphere, all the blue-ish wavelengths have been scattered in
       | random directions so only the red-ish wavelengths remain, thus
       | the atmosphere is illuminated by progressively redder and redder
       | light as the photons travel longer and longer distances through
       | the atmosphere.
        
       | librasteve wrote:
       | Why is the sky black?
       | 
       | - at night (of course)
       | 
       | - there are ~1 septillion stars that are all shiny
        
       | alexander2002 wrote:
       | This post is so good! You are a hero.
        
       | nephihaha wrote:
       | Where I live, the sky is grey much of the time... Most of last
       | week anyway!
        
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