[HN Gopher] Hellenistic War-Elephants and the Use of Alcohol Bef...
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Hellenistic War-Elephants and the Use of Alcohol Before Battle
Author : perihelions
Score : 5 points
Date : 2026-01-23 14:44 UTC (5 days ago)
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| alephnerd wrote:
| This article overreads into the meaning of _mast_ and _matta_.
| _Mast_ just means overstimulated /excited, and in the context of
| an elephant would be the equivalent of using the word "spooked"
| but with a humorous ting to it. Indian epics like the Mahabharat
| and Ramayan were not written as historical treatise but also as
| entertainment.
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| The same way how Homer uses titillating speech in the Illiad or
| how Ferdowsi added out-of-this-world imagery in the Shahnameh
| (though Mahmud Ghazni stiffed him on this commission) is how
| similar additions are in those epics.
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| Also, Sanskrit manuscripts from before Xuangzang can be found -
| they are just untranslated, and at Indian Sanskrit universities
| like Rashtriya Sanskrit Sansthan and Sampurnanand Sanskrit
| Vishwavidyalaya, or archives like Acharya Shri Kailashsuri
| Jnanamandir and Saraswati Mahal Library, but these often only
| allow members of Dharmic faiths or from that background to enter.
|
| This is why most Sanskrit scholarship is centered in India, Sri
| Lanka (where Anagarika unified Buddhism with Hindutva), and
| Thailand, where Maha Chakri Sirindhorn - who is a devout Buddhist
| and still active Sanskrit (and Pali) academic - has personally
| sponsored Sanskritology, Indology, and Buddhist studies for
| decades. When Sanskrit texts get translated into a modern
| language, it tends to be in Hindi or Thai as a result.
|
| In English, NYU had the Clay Library but Gombrich passed away,
| and at Harvard, Narayana Murty (Infosys founder and Rishi Sunak's
| father in law) is funding the Murty Library, but both are barely
| scraping the top of the barrel.
| johnea wrote:
| > a longstanding association of elephants and alcohol in popular
| thought
|
| What? the hell?
|
| Maybe not watching television for over 20 years has left me more
| out of touch with "popular thought" than I realized...
| doobiedowner wrote:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seeing_pink_elephants
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