[HN Gopher] Google DeepMind Staffers Ask Leaders to Keep Them 'P...
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Google DeepMind Staffers Ask Leaders to Keep Them 'Physically Safe'
from ICE
Author : jaredwiener
Score : 57 points
Date : 2026-01-27 18:33 UTC (4 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.wired.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.wired.com)
| dpc050505 wrote:
| https://archive.is/GYoyc to get around the paywall
| im3w1l wrote:
| > Google's head of security and risk operations responded to [a
| message about an incident] to clarify what had happened. They
| noted that an "officer arrived at reception without notice" and
| that the agent was "not granted entry because they did not have a
| warrant and promptly left."
|
| This seems like a very reasonable way to handle it.
|
| Edit: Disclosure: I'm not an American.
| pavel_lishin wrote:
| Telling the police to come back with a warrant sometimes works,
| and sometimes doesn't.
|
| And these guys aren't the police.
| motbus3 wrote:
| Why did he go there without a warranty in the first place?
| Was he following someone who entered the building? Would that
| be weird similar to the weird mustached guy from the 40s?
| Refreeze5224 wrote:
| ICE has been going around without judicial, as opposed to
| administrative, warrants, relying on threats and coercion
| to be let in and to arrest people. That's what this
| probably is.
| moralestapia wrote:
| The story doesn't make sense, tbh ...
|
| One single guy. What was he supposed to do after they let
| him in? Just start asking people about their legal
| status? I doubt Google has many illegal immigrants
| working there ... I doubt there's even one.
|
| Then this guy finds them, allegedly, does he just arrests
| them and take them out the building? All by himself? With
| all the cameras and phones on the planet recording it?
| Inside Google, from all places?
|
| It just doesn't make sense.
|
| From the article:
|
| >Google's top brass--including CEO Sundar Pichai and
| DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis--have remained silent on
| Pretti's killing even inside the company, sources say.
|
| Why would they, though?
| xp84 wrote:
| I agree, I don't need to hear my CEO's opinions on
| whatever controversy is big today. Run the company, focus
| on that.
| pavel_lishin wrote:
| I'd like to hear my CEO say that he won't allow goons
| into the building to drag me away to a concentration
| camp.
| moralestapia wrote:
| There's not much a CEO can do about that ... (nor it
| should).
| pavel_lishin wrote:
| But consider: they're all really fucking stupid.
| amanaplanacanal wrote:
| The thing is, they are required to have a warrant, but I
| don't believe they are required to show you the warrant. In
| which case what exactly should they do?
| throw_away_8080 wrote:
| Not a lawyer, but I think this is common knowledge: They
| are required to not only show it but provide a copy of the
| warrant on request. Furthermore the warrants are scoped, if
| the warrant specifies searching for firearms and the search
| your hard drive it can't be used in court unless you
| verbally allow it. Don't resist, but don't consent.
| mullingitover wrote:
| There was a recent secret internal ICE memo stating that they
| determined they were free to essentially engage in
| unconstitutional home invasions[1]. If they decided to batter
| down the doors at Google there is nothing stopping them.
|
| The only thing keeping them in check is the courts, and that
| practically operates in geologic timeframes compared to the
| rate they are breaking laws.
|
| [1] https://apnews.com/article/ice-arrests-warrants-
| minneapolis-...
| mc32 wrote:
| That's where they will use an "administrative warrant" to
| arrest someone with a final order of removal.
|
| So not citizens' houses but one where someone is in the
| country illegally with a final order of removal.
| tekla wrote:
| Despite the word "warrant" being present, an
| "administrative warrant" does not allow law enforcement to
| enter private property.
|
| If they find a illegal immigrant on public streets, they
| can be detained, but still cannot enter a private residence
| (even if occupied by an illegal immigrant) as it would
| violate the 4th amendment.
| dragonwriter wrote:
| > Despite the word "warrant" being present, an
| "administrative warrant" does not allow law enforcement
| to enter private property.
|
| Even an actual judicial arrest warrant doesn't (legally)
| allow them to enter private party on suspicion that the
| target might be there. Search is a separate thing from
| seizure, and you need a judicial _search_ warrant to
| search a private residence or the non-public areas of a
| business for a person, no matter what authority you might
| have to arrest them should you find them.
| mc32 wrote:
| That makes sense. But that raises a separate unrelated
| question; how do bailbondsmen seem to be able to take
| their targets in, are they violating the law or are
| criminals gullible or something else?
| dragonwriter wrote:
| Bail agents can usually enter the home of the subject
| without additional consent due to clauses in the contract
| of the bail bond, but not (without the owners consent)
| homes owned by third parties even if the target is
| present.
|
| Criminals are also frequently gullible.
|
| And bail agents are fairly notorious as a group for
| having a less than scrupulous attention to legal
| restrictions.
|
| So, a mix of things, really.
| dbarlett wrote:
| A single paragraph in _Taylor v. Taintor_ :
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_v._Taintor
| stopbulying wrote:
| "Immigration officers assert sweeping power to enter homes
| without a judge's warrant, memo says":
| https://apnews.com/article/ice-arrests-warrants-
| minneapolis-...
|
| Search and Seizure > United States:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_and_seizure
|
| Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution: https://e
| n.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United...
| Ancalagon wrote:
| Great job Sundar, way to stand on the wrong stage.
| juliusceasar wrote:
| USA has turned into Iran and Israel. Murdering innocent people
| and lying about it.
| mc32 wrote:
| Yah like Ruby Ridge, Phila MOVE, Malheur, etc...
| rambojohnson wrote:
| 100%
| knowitnone3 wrote:
| I don't believe Google would is hiring illegal immigrants.
| kingstnap wrote:
| The two people recently killed in Minneapolis were both US
| citizens.
| xp84 wrote:
| True, buuuuut, they were also citizens taking it upon
| themselves to go and get involved with law enforcement
| activity, creating a chaotic environment deliberately in
| order to try to make a political point. Let's stipulate that
| they had great ethical reasons and good intentions to do this
| - I don't want to debate that.
|
| But these people allegedly asking for "protection from ICE"
| at work however are being hyperbolic. Their workplace isn't a
| place where immigrants are being pursued in the first place,
| and even if ICE were to come there, they don't have to choose
| to try to "be a hero" and insert themselves into an arrest
| that might happen. If they want safety, they can stay at
| their desks and work. If they're illegally here themselves,
| they can't expect their employer that they are lying to, to
| bend over backwards to "protect" them.
|
| Honestly, I think escalating a situation that is _not life-
| or-death,_ like ICE detaining people they suspect of
| violating immigration status, to a degree where people can
| die, is irresponsible. Way more people die from forklift
| accidents every day than are actually wrongfully deported,
| yet people are throwing themselves into the path of officers
| to "defend" random people they almost definitely know less
| about than the person arresting them does. So far I haven't
| heard of ICE hurting any actual immigrants in custody, just
| "heroes" who think they have a duty to "defend." The only
| logically consistent position with this categorical "defense"
| stance would be that borders shouldn't exist.
| simianwords wrote:
| Its a bit strange why a single newsworthy incident with the ICE
| has GDM's attention in this manner? There has been no interaction
| between ICE and Google other than a single agent trying to enter
| and then leave.
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