[HN Gopher] Apps like Grok are banned under Google rules-why is ...
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       Apps like Grok are banned under Google rules-why is it still in the
       Play Store?
        
       Author : pauljonas
       Score  : 36 points
       Date   : 2026-01-12 19:50 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (arstechnica.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (arstechnica.com)
        
       | dmitrygr wrote:
       | Same reason that apple did not ban Facebook despite repeated
       | workarounds of user privacy measures. Too-big-to-fail.
        
         | Y-bar wrote:
         | Likely so.
         | 
         | But then again, Apple banned Verizon's app (Tumblr) in 2018
         | when CSAM was discovered on the platform and not removed fast
         | enough.
        
           | dmitrygr wrote:
           | Tumblr was never as big as FB or Twitter are
        
             | conartist6 wrote:
             | Ohhhhh ok if you're big you can do whatever and morals
             | don't apply. I get it now!
        
               | Anonbrit wrote:
               | "If you've enough users that banning you would affect our
               | bottom like negatively..."
        
               | jayturley wrote:
               | Unironically, this is exactly the state of the world in
               | 2026
        
             | Y-bar wrote:
             | The difference is less pronounced than you think.
             | 
             | In 2018 Tumblr had more users (over 60M monthly) than Grok
             | today (30M monthly). And Verizon, the owner, is/was larger
             | than Grok's owner: xAI.
        
       | jjtheblunt wrote:
       | it's possible the rules are imminently going to be updated,
       | causing an explanation, i thought.
        
       | postalrat wrote:
       | Because things change
        
       | conartist6 wrote:
       | I love that people are downvoting and reporting me for saying
       | these companies hate women, when they're only _acting_ like they
       | hate women.
       | 
       | I would say "don't shoot the messenger," but no, I take that
       | back. Get mad at me. Get furious at me! Then ask yourself "who ya
       | really mad at," cause I guarantee you it isn't me.
        
       | conartist6 wrote:
       | Let's say, for the sake of argument, that you had a daughter. The
       | boys at school are just being boys, amirite, and they generate
       | nudes of your daughter and share them. Your daughter of course is
       | unaware of this, but a week later the pictures have spread to a
       | wide enough circle that someone shows the pictures to her. She's
       | humiliated and emotionally _devestated_. She feels like people
       | have been a little _weird_ around her all week. A particular
       | hallway taunt that seemed random suddenly makes awful sense. They
       | 've all been looking at nudes of her! She now feels like nobody
       | will ever look at her the same way again. She's afraid to go to
       | school now. She's clearly depressed, her usual faith in humanity
       | suddenly absent. Over and over and over she wonders to herself
       | "what did I do wrong?"
       | 
       | But she didn't do anything wrong except exist. She asks you why
       | there's no consequences for anyone involved. Why are there more
       | and more girls like her every day and the adults act like it's
       | fine? You are at a loss for words.
       | 
       | Because no, if you're the victim, it's not fucking fine. There's
       | nothing fine about wrecking her life being a product for sale to
       | make Elon even richer.
        
       | xracy wrote:
       | I'm pretty sure this got posted before (maybe for apple, or
       | slightly different headline), and flagged. I can't imagine why
       | this would get flagged, but I think there's a really solid
       | question here. It feels pretty fair to enforce the rules to
       | ensure that this behavior is not allowed on platforms.
        
         | bitshiftfaced wrote:
         | Are people still able to do the things this article says you
         | can do with Grok? I know that was the headline several days
         | ago. I haven't really followed this story too closely to know.
        
           | conartist6 wrote:
           | As I understand it yes, but whereas before you could do it
           | for free now you have to upgrade to pro or whatever. Someone
           | can correct me if I'm wrong.
        
           | xracy wrote:
           | I think whether or not you can still actively do this, there
           | should likely be a consequence for the fact that you could
           | _ever_ do this. And pulling from the store for a proportional
           | amount of time seems like a fair way to enforce that.
           | 
           | I don't think this explains why you would pull the article.
           | The fact that it was ever correct is sufficient even if it's
           | not currently point in time correct.
        
             | bitshiftfaced wrote:
             | The article is dated today. If Grok's policy changed
             | already, then the article's author is missing something
             | important.
        
       | ChrisArchitect wrote:
       | Previously:
       | 
       |  _Tim Cook and Sundar Pichai are cowards_
       | 
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46560359
       | 
       |  _'Fuck you, make me' without saying the words_
       | 
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46577869
        
       | bediger4000 wrote:
       | I thought it was a combination of Musk suing companies that
       | stopped advertising on Twitter based on anti-trust law, and Musk
       | being on the good side of Trump.
        
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