[HN Gopher] Ireland fast tracks Bill to criminalise harmful voic...
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       Ireland fast tracks Bill to criminalise harmful voice or image
       misuse
        
       Author : mooreds
       Score  : 123 points
       Date   : 2026-01-12 13:38 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.irishtimes.com)
        
       | belorn wrote:
       | How does the law distinguish itself from anti-harassment laws?
       | 
       | I recall a old lawsuit (not sure which country) where a student
       | had photoshopped a nude body onto a picture of their teacher and
       | given it to other students. The main question in the case was if
       | this qualified as sexual harassment, even if the teacher in
       | question never received the image. I don't remember the outcome,
       | through I think they were found guilty.
        
         | piltdownman wrote:
         | The cynic in me assumes its a way of establishing criminal
         | liability on social media platforms for deepfakes impacting
         | politicians credibility - striking while the Grok is still hot
         | as it were.
        
           | orwin wrote:
           | I think YouTube and meta (Instagram and Facebook) will be hit
           | as hard, or even harder, because of the numbers of scam ads
           | using likeness. It will make them liable from publishing scam
           | ads (which, to be clear, should already be in the DMA)
        
           | cmxch wrote:
           | If they're fine with targeting BlueSky for the same reasons,
           | then by all means let the law be.
        
       | nashashmi wrote:
       | > The deliberate misuse of someone's image or voice without their
       | consent for malign purposes should be a criminal offence.
       | 
       | So much vagueness in misuse yet so much impact with consequences.
       | This bill is being speedlined. And it seems to hurt everyone at
       | the same time.
       | 
       | Better to bring a bill with specific limitations and prohibitions
       | that is complete with treatment, consequences, prosecutions, and
       | appeals.
       | 
       | Then that bill can be extended to other prohibited actions as
       | they become apparent
        
         | lolc wrote:
         | Have you read the bill or is the quote the only thing you're
         | going on?
        
         | surgical_fire wrote:
         | Except this is not the text of the bill. You are quoting a
         | comment from a news articles, and commenting upon it as if you
         | were reading a bill.
        
       | piltdownman wrote:
       | So the actual context of this is a long-standing feud between
       | Meta and our elected representatives (and some prominent media
       | figures) regarding social engineering scam ads.
       | 
       | You've probably seen some variant of it - a 1:1 copy of a
       | reputable newsoutlet - in this case The Irish Independent, The
       | Irish Times, RTE or Newstalk - with a purported video from our
       | Prime Minister or similar which leads to a crypto-trading or
       | forex-trading sales funnel. Simon Harris, our previous Head of
       | State, was inundated with variants of the same script:
       | 
       | "In the nation's best interests, we've carried out a full
       | investigation to make sure it's not a scam," the AI-generated
       | Harris appears to say in the scam ad shown on YouTube.
       | 
       | "This is your chance to change your life. All it takes is one
       | small step: invest EUR250 and start earning today," the deepfaked
       | figure tells a press conference.
       | 
       | https://www.thejournal.ie/facetcheck-debunk-ai-scam-ad-deepf...
       | 
       | https://www.newstalk.com/news/social-media-platforms-see-sur...
        
         | leoc wrote:
         | (Harris was our head of government (ie. PM or equivalent)
         | rather than head of state (which would be the president).)
        
         | miohtama wrote:
         | The existing fraud and advertising laws cover these kind of
         | scams. Because the bottleneck is enforcement, adding new laws
         | won't make the world safer.
        
           | piltdownman wrote:
           | Except they don't - enforcement is circumvented by psuedo-
           | anonymous users pushing illegal ad campaigns that revert back
           | to inoffensive content or a similar cop-out by the time
           | Meta/X responds to the report
           | 
           | https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/despicable-simon-
           | harri...
           | 
           | https://www.reddit.com/r/irishpolitics/comments/1i1shz3/anyo.
           | ..
        
             | collingreen wrote:
             | Does this require a belief that it isn't reasonable for
             | meta to control or even be aware of ad content they are
             | paid to show?
        
           | pjc50 wrote:
           | This is only going to change if prosecution is brought
           | against Meta itself, which it looks like the "recklessly"
           | clause is intended to imply. I look forward to Meta facing
           | criminal charges for profiting from fraud.
           | 
           | What's the Irish equivalent of Hansard, by the way? Can we
           | look up the debate?
        
             | ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
             | _> facing criminal charges for profiting from fraud_
             | 
             | Amazon, too, but this seems to be "fraud that annoys pols,"
             | so I guess The Big A is going to be left alone...
        
             | dmurray wrote:
             | There hasn't been a debate. The headline is not reflective
             | of the facts. There hasn't been any agreement to fast track
             | this bill, but the politician sponsoring it has said in a
             | radio interview that (surprise!) he thinks it should be
             | fast tracked.
             | 
             | The Dail record can be found here, but there's nothing of
             | interest in it:
             | 
             | https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/search/?searchType=debates&deb
             | a...
        
               | amiga386 wrote:
               | Oh for fuck's sake.
               | 
               | HN: "Ireland fast tracks Bill to criminalise harmful
               | voice or image misuse"
               | 
               | TFA: " _Calls to_ fast track Bill to criminalise harmful
               | misuse of someone's voice or image "
               | 
               | Call to action. Not action. And the call is coming from
               | the bill's proposer! He _would_ say that, wouldn 't he?
               | But what matters is if the actual government takes that
               | bill further. If they don't, we don't need to care about
               | what this guy thinks.
               | 
               | HN headline (possibly an earlier headline of TFA) is
               | fundamentally misrepresenting the situation.
        
               | wasabi991011 wrote:
               | You can email the mod team with this explanation and get
               | them to change the title.
        
             | verzali wrote:
             | Oh they won't. Vance will say a few mean words and threaten
             | to bomb Dublin if anyone lifts a finger against Meta.
        
             | Ajedi32 wrote:
             | What makes you think Meta will do a better job of policing
             | this than the actual police?
             | 
             | Granted, they might be able to crack down harder in some
             | respects since unlike the police they don't have to worry
             | about due process, but is that really "doing a better job"
             | on balance?
        
               | Nextgrid wrote:
               | The police doesn't have access to all the data for
               | starters. Meta does.
        
               | Ajedi32 wrote:
               | These _are_ public posts we 're talking about, right? Or
               | are we saying Meta should be cracking down on content in
               | private communication too? (And if so, isn't that the
               | same concern I just mentioned about due process, but for
               | privacy instead?)
        
               | Nextgrid wrote:
               | If we're talking about _profiting_ from fraud, then we
               | 're talking ads. Which are semi-public, you only see them
               | if you fall within the targeting bucket, which definitely
               | wouldn't include "law enforcement officer".
        
               | simion314 wrote:
               | >What makes you think Meta will do a better job of
               | policing this than the actual police?
               | 
               | Meta announce they will stop political/electoral
               | advertising in EU, so this ios proof that Meta can do but
               | we need to foce them to act, otherwise Meta makes money
               | from all the scams in the ads that are published, in fact
               | I remember Meta looked into the scam problem and decided
               | to stop looking sicne solving the problem would reduce
               | their profits.
               | 
               | Now in case all those well paid engineers at Meta can't
               | find a solution here is an idea I had just by thinking at
               | it for a few seconds, those geniuses shoudl be able to
               | find better ones if they want.
               | 
               | 1 when a scam ad is reported block that account and their
               | ads
               | 
               | 2 before the ad is published have an AI scan it, if it
               | looks to be related to politics, crypto or other scam
               | friendly domains have someone review it . do not allow
               | fresh accounts to publish this kind of shit without a
               | human review
               | 
               | 3 for Facebook content when someone shares fake shiot,
               | like a proven fake document, or scam or faked video block
               | the account and then notify all the people that liked or
               | shared the scam that they were scammed/tricked ... when
               | your users will get 10 daily notifications "You are an
               | idiot you shared this fake shit" you might realize you
               | should do something about scams or users will stop
               | engaging with your stuff.
               | 
               | I am talking here about proveable scams and fakes , so
               | not about some gray area. I mean scams, faked
               | videos/images/documents etc
        
               | pjc50 wrote:
               | Banning some fraudulent advertising is doing a better job
               | than leaving it up, yes.
        
           | nerdralph wrote:
           | As a common-law legal system, I would expect Ireland to have
           | something similar to Canada's Criminal Code identity fraud.
           | 403 (1) Everyone commits an offence who fraudulently
           | personates another person, living or dead,
           | (a) with intent to gain advantage for themselves or another
           | person;                  (b) with intent to obtain any
           | property or an interest in any property;                  (c)
           | with intent to cause disadvantage to the person being
           | personated or another person; or                  (d) with
           | intent to avoid arrest or prosecution or to obstruct, pervert
           | or defeat the course of justice.              Marginal
           | note:Clarification              (2) For the purposes of
           | subsection (1), personating a person includes pretending to
           | be the person or using the person's identity information --
           | whether by itself or in combination with identity information
           | pertaining to any person -- as if it pertains to the person
           | using it.              Marginal note:Punishment
           | (3) Everyone who commits an offence under subsection (1)
           | (a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to
           | imprisonment for a term of not more than 10 years; or
           | (b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.
        
       | uyzstvqs wrote:
       | This is a good way to regulate this. Criminalize people who abuse
       | AI tools to cause harm. Don't try to impose censorship or mass-
       | surveillance on AI tools. I oppose all pornography, but censoring
       | nudity from a model both compromises the model's quality
       | (example: SD3) and stops legitimate artistic value.
       | 
       | Though the framing on Grok is highly duplicitous. It is against
       | the ToS, and it's about a few abusers among millions of
       | legitimate users. Meanwhile there are actual "nudification"
       | services which advertise themselves entirely to enable this kind
       | of abuse.
        
         | 0ckpuppet wrote:
         | who decides what is harmful? That's going to be like letting a
         | Bible thumping Moral Majority zealot decide what's Art and
         | what's pornography.
        
           | mikeyouse wrote:
           | And under which jurisdiction is this going to be prosecuted?
           | So some random Nazi on Twitter makes CSAM of an Irish actress
           | - is Musk going to comply with the subpoena to help the Irish
           | authorities find the user? He's already said he won't be
           | punishing users for 'free speech' as he defines it.. so then
           | what?
        
             | saubeidl wrote:
             | Then we prosecute Musk.
        
             | yxhuvud wrote:
             | The images would be published by Grok, which is part of
             | Twitter. They are responsible for what they themselves
             | publish. Hence Twitter is the obvious choice of where to
             | direct the subpoena.
        
             | pjc50 wrote:
             | Note that the bill includes "distributes", so Twitter
             | clearly counts as "distributor".
             | 
             | More interesting question: if the Twitter app is made
             | available through the Apple App store, then would famous
             | Irish-based multinational company Apple be liable as well?
        
           | idiotsecant wrote:
           | The courts. Just like if you sue someone for anything else.
           | Demonstrating harm is part of the process.
        
           | lm28469 wrote:
           | Who defines what a crime is anyways right?
        
           | uyzstvqs wrote:
           | Nudity, including artistic nudity, is in itself the complete
           | opposite of pornography. One is human nature, with art
           | depicting its beauty and purity, while the latter is about
           | the gratification of lust.
           | 
           | As a Christian, pornography is clearly sinful and harmful.
           | But if you wish to use your free will to partake in it, then
           | you do you. Non-consensual pornography (which is what this is
           | about) causes harm to another person, which is why it cannot
           | be tolerated.
           | 
           | This should be obvious IMO.
        
         | lonelyasacloud wrote:
         | > This is a good way to regulate this. Criminalize people who
         | abuse AI tools to cause harm.
         | 
         | In same way as is done so successfully with guns, speeding
         | automobiles, etc?
         | 
         | These things are capable of inferring photorealistic av
         | deepfakes; with a well drafted law they're more than capable of
         | inferring if what they are being asked to is illegal.
         | 
         | It makes zero sense to wait for the poop to hit the fan and
         | then waste taxes investigating the illegality, punishing
         | criminals, and dealing with impact on victims when it can
         | stopped at source.
        
       | john-h-k wrote:
       | > knowingly uses or infringes upon the use of and publishes ...
       | an individual's name, photograph ... without the individual's
       | prior consent ... and being reckless as to whether or not harm is
       | caused to, the other person.
       | 
       | > [harm occurs when someone] seriously interferes with the other
       | person's peace and privacy or causes alarm or distress to the
       | other person
       | 
       | This seems very widely worded. A newspaper publishing the
       | name/image of a suspected criminal is definitely "publishing an
       | individuals name, photograph", without their consent, and can
       | quite clearly cause alarm or distress.
       | 
       | Without some exemption clauses added, this bill seems to
       | basically ban using anyone's name/photograph/likeness in ANY
       | context that criticises them; it will almost certainly conflict
       | with ECHR's Article 10 on freedom of expression. However(!!) with
       | a few exemptions it can be made much better. Even tying it to AI
       | generated photos/voice/etc would help - most _genuine_ criticism
       | and reporting can go without the use of AI, but a lot of the
       | intentional harm and sexual harassment did not occur before AI.
       | If they don't want to do that, adding some form of "exemption if
       | the information was used in a non-libellous context" could also
       | work.
        
         | sallveburrpi wrote:
         | > A newspaper publishing the name/image of a suspected criminal
         | is definitely "publishing an individuals name, photograph",
         | without their consent, and can quite clearly cause alarm or
         | distress.
         | 
         | Cherrypicking your example: Newspapers shouldn't publish names
         | or images of suspects, so to me this specific example would be
         | a very good thing. Not sure (IANAL) but I think in my country
         | this is illegal already
         | 
         | Otherwise I agree that it's very ambitious wording
        
           | Amezarak wrote:
           | > Cherrypicking your example: Newspapers shouldn't publish
           | names or images of suspects, so to me this specific example
           | would be a very good thing. Not sure (IANAL) but I think in
           | my country this is illegal already
           | 
           | Why shouldn't they? Why shouldn't the government have to
           | publicize the names and identities of people they arrest so
           | we know they're not doing so illegitimately?
        
             | Sparkle-san wrote:
             | It's definitely a damned if you do and damned if you don't
             | situation. Lots of people have had their reputations ruined
             | by accusations that turned out to be false but people made
             | judgements based on the initial report and then moved on
             | with their life carrying it as fact.
        
             | wccrawford wrote:
             | I think there's a difference between the government doing
             | it and the newspaper.
             | 
             | The newspaper can cherry pick who they post about, and spin
             | it however they want. The government should be posting
             | _all_ of them in the same way, with just the facts.
        
             | orwin wrote:
             | Publishing a name and publishing a likeness is very
             | different.
             | 
             | Especially if the person arrested is accused of immoral
             | acts. In my country we have a very known story from 25
             | years ago where 18 persons were accused of being
             | pedocriminals. Their faces blasted everywhere, on first
             | page of most journals, on the TV... It turns out 13 of them
             | weren't guilty at all. Issues with psychological pressure
             | on the children and a lot of mistakes made life hell for
             | the accused and ultimately innocent, people, most of them
             | lost part of their life because of that.
        
             | idiotsecant wrote:
             | Who's talking about governments? The post you responded to
             | sure never brought it up.
        
             | pjc50 wrote:
             | Publishing the name of someone arrested and then later
             | released without charge could constitute harm to them, even
             | if you make it theoretically illegal to discriminate
             | against them on that basis.
             | 
             | The US use of mugshots is exploitative.
        
               | Amezarak wrote:
               | Arresting someone without that being widely reported has
               | historically resulted in substantial harm - it's called
               | "disappearing" someone.
        
             | ninalanyon wrote:
             | It' specifically illegal in some jurisdictions.
        
         | sollewitt wrote:
         | Your snipping is making it look broader than it is: you can't
         | misrepresent someone as being supportive of your product or
         | cause, and you can't distribute software that makes, or make
         | yourself, likenesses of other people without their prior
         | consent.
         | 
         | It doesn't constrain what you do in contexts other than where
         | you use someone's likeness to misrepresent their position.
         | 
         | The harms are restricted to the scope above.
        
           | Gormo wrote:
           | > Your snipping is making it look broader than it is: you
           | can't misrepresent someone as being supportive of your
           | product or cause, and you can't distribute software that
           | makes, or make yourself, likenesses of other people without
           | their prior consent.
           | 
           | This sounds like it would effectively ban photography in
           | public places. Or at least ban the manufacture/sale of
           | cameras or software that takes photos.
        
           | amiga386 wrote:
           | So if I draw a caricature of a politician in Illustrator,
           | then Adobe goes to prison?
           | 
           | What if I draw a caricature of my own friends, in
           | Illustrator, without first getting their consent? Does Adobe
           | go to prison?
           | 
           | What if I captioned my illustration with my friend saying
           | "It's my round!" (which is misrepresenting their position
           | because it's _never_ their bloody round), would Adobe go to
           | prison then?
        
             | kelseyfrog wrote:
             | No, there is currently no method to imprison Adobe nor any
             | other company.
        
             | amiga386 wrote:
             | Having looked up the text, I can now answer my own
             | questions.
             | 
             | 1. As "the production of an individual's photograph, voice,
             | or likeness" is not Illustrator's "primary purpose or
             | function", Adobe are off the hook. So is anyone else if
             | they argue that the "primary purpose or function" is not
             | the production of _an individual 's_ photograph, voice, or
             | likeness. So if Grok can be prompted to produce _any_
             | image, _including_ porn of individuals, provided it 's not
             | the _primary_ purpose of Grok, they 're untouchable.
             | 
             | 2. Even if the bill weren't worded that way, a legal person
             | in Ireland allows for corporate personhood
             | (https://legalguide.ie/corporate-identity/#separate-legal-
             | per...), so Adobe Corporation, as the legal person who
             | "distributes, transmits, or otherwise makes available an
             | algorithm, software, tool, or other technology, service, or
             | device" (Illustrator) would not be subject to "imprisonment
             | for a term not exceeding seven years", but it would be
             | subject to "a fine" (maximum amount not specified)
             | 
             | 3. Misrepresenting someone or not is irrelevant. The
             | offense is when you _either_ use the depicted person
             | without their consent (regardless of how you represent
             | them) _or_ you _intend_ to harm them (or recklessly don 't
             | consider the harm you might cause them), whether you have
             | their consent or not. Harm specifically is {interfering
             | "with the other person's peace and privacy" or causing
             | "alarm or distress" to them} _AND_ "a reasonable person
             | would realise" that. It would be pretty difficult for a
             | reasonable person
             | (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_person) to think
             | misrepresenting a politician would cause them "alarm or
             | distress" or interfere with their "peace and privacy", so
             | you'd probably be fine producing images of politician XYZ
             | saying they hate freedom, want to take your guns away, eat
             | babies, etc., as they get that day-in, day-out and it
             | hasn't stopped them yet.
        
           | pessimizer wrote:
           | Your second sentence directly contradicts your first
           | sentence, and the substance of your post is only two
           | sentences.
        
           | john-h-k wrote:
           | "or to influence elections or referenda" has quite a wide
           | scope and was what concerned me. Publishing a political in a
           | negative light absolutely could influence an election! But
           | yes I should have included that part, not good by me, sorry.
        
         | orwin wrote:
         | A newspaper publishing the name/image of a suspected criminal
         | is definitely "publishing an individuals name, photograph",
         | without their consent, and can quite clearly cause alarm or
         | distress
         | 
         | If the suspected criminal isn't a public figure, it's a good
         | thing, isn't it?
        
           | JohnMakin wrote:
           | What if they are not guilty?
        
           | pjc50 wrote:
           | If you've published it in a newspaper, now they're a public
           | figure!
        
           | ninalanyon wrote:
           | In some European countries it's against the law to publish
           | details of people who are merely accused.
        
         | enragedcacti wrote:
         | Any time you are reading a law, especially one from another
         | jurisdiction, you have to be very careful to consider that
         | there may be terms with a legal or common law definition that
         | you don't understand. In this case, "reckless" seems to be a
         | well defined term with a fair amount of case law behind it. To
         | my untrained eye it seems like a newspaper would be well within
         | their rights to publish harmful information as long as they
         | avoid "a conscious disregard of a substantial and unjustifiable
         | risk".
         | 
         | https://www.studocu.com/en-ie/document/university-college-du...
        
         | allturtles wrote:
         | AFAICT this is the actual bill:
         | https://data.oireachtas.ie/ie/oireachtas/bill/2025/11/eng/in...
         | 
         | Your selective quoting is extremely misleading. The first
         | section about publishing a name/photograph only applies in the
         | context of "for purposes of advertising products, events,
         | political activities, merchandise, goods, or services or for
         | purposes of fundraising, solicitation of donations, purchases
         | of products, merchandise, goods, or services or to influence
         | elections or referenda." i.e. it's illegal to pretend someone
         | is endorsing something they are not.
        
           | pessimizer wrote:
           | But the second paragraph doesn't have any of those specifics.
           | It's just any algorithm ( _an actual ban on forbidden math_
           | ), software, tool, technology, service, or device.
        
           | john-h-k wrote:
           | Sorry, the example I had in mind was a politician and I don't
           | know why I forgot to add that to the comment, else I'd edit
           | it in.
           | 
           | The point is that "to influence elections or referenda" is
           | incredibly vague! Almost any reporting on a person involved
           | in the election, or even related to it (reporting on someone
           | who's group looking bad helps a party) can be construed as
           | "influencing an election"
        
       | richwater wrote:
       | AI is a god send to governments who have been trying to push
       | through censorship laws under the guise of "protecting
       | [people|children|women|etc]"
        
         | immibis wrote:
         | Hot take that 99% of the world agrees with: Cyberbullying is
         | bad and it's ok to punish cyberbullies.
        
           | expedition32 wrote:
           | Nobody likes libertarians and you're beginning to understand
           | why.
        
       | mystraline wrote:
       | Sure, its a proposed law for citizens of this country.
       | 
       | So, how's that going to work out with Indian, Pakistani, North
       | Korean, or similar locations using voice spoofing?
       | 
       | Thats right. None.
        
         | nemomarx wrote:
         | It seems to target the technology they'd be using - so the
         | voice software might be liable, or the platform they use to
         | convey the scam?
        
         | reillyse wrote:
         | I imagine whoever publishes it to the jurisdiction would be
         | liable
        
       | ozlikethewizard wrote:
       | The UK is considering an injunction to have Grok and potentially
       | X banned until this issue is resolved.
       | 
       | I'm no huge fan of state intervention, particularly my state
       | which is notoriously over zealous, prudish, and subtly
       | authoritarian. The sweeping changes were seeing in the UK are
       | somewhat reminiscent of the old "First they came for the trade
       | unionists" poem, and there certainly has been many of us speaking
       | out against the attacks on freedom to protest and expression
       | here.
       | 
       | However, when you swap out trade unionists for "People comitting
       | sexual harassment", "Paedophiles", and "Billionaires", Im
       | somewhat more inclined to side with the government on this. Were
       | already way down the slippery slope, at least some genuinely bad
       | actors are catching some flak this time I guess.
        
         | cmxch wrote:
         | Except that the UK is just laundering authoritarianism through
         | a clause that selectively harms one organization and not all of
         | those that have platforms with the same problem.
         | 
         | Given the UK's already high authoritarian tendencies towards
         | speech codes, it would be better to have the US sanction Kier
         | Starmer, OFCOM, and other associated parties in the
         | Commonwealth, narrowly specified.
        
       | antonvs wrote:
       | > Ireland fast tracks Bill
       | 
       | Poor Bill, what did he do to deserve this?
        
         | Ylpertnodi wrote:
         | He got thoughted.
        
       | rob74 wrote:
       | "Ireland fast tracks Bill to criminalise harmful voice or image
       | misuse" - now that's some strange capitalis/zation in that
       | headline. I'm Ok with title case, but randomly capitalising just
       | one word in a title looks strange. Or is this something
       | specifically Irish?
        
         | bheadmaster wrote:
         | I suppose Bill is going to have a busy schedule in the
         | following days.
        
         | joelccr wrote:
         | I can't speak for Ireland, but in the UK it is quite common to
         | refer to a Bill (before it has passed) or an Act (when it is
         | passed) with a capital letter, rightly or wrongly, because its
         | name would be capitalised (in this case The Protection of Voice
         | and Image Bill, with Bill replaced by Act once it has become
         | law).
         | 
         | It is also a capitalised term within the text of the law
         | itself.
        
           | CatMustard wrote:
           | It also helps that Bill is not a common name here at all (the
           | only Bill I've ever met in my life was an American).
           | 
           | I can imagine how confusing it would be if all instances of
           | the word Bill in articles such as these were replaced with
           | Sean lol.
        
           | brendoelfrendo wrote:
           | I can't find a style guide for the Irish Times, but the
           | Independent's style guide seems to agree with you: capitalize
           | when used as part of the name of a bill or act, and use
           | lowercase thereafter [0]. Perhaps because they are using Bill
           | in the headline as a shorthand for the full-name of the bill
           | (probably for space reasons), they saw fit to capitalize it?
           | Regardless, this is one of those cases where it's not really
           | a grammatical choice but one of style/convention.
           | 
           | [0] https://www.independent.ie/editorial/pdfs/stylebook23.pdf
        
       | nickdothutton wrote:
       | What is the succinct definition of "harmful"?
        
         | a_paddy wrote:
         | A tort
        
         | contagiousflow wrote:
         | What do you think courts are for?
        
       | hiprob wrote:
       | Ireland is just a copy of the UK, except it's a tax haven and a
       | trojan horse of the EU. They have the same age requirement
       | regulation online as the UK.
        
         | piltdownman wrote:
         | Nonsense.
         | 
         | * There is ongoing discussion in the Irish parliament and
         | policy circles about setting a digital age of consent or
         | minimum age (e.g. 16) for social media access. This debate is
         | driven by concern over youth wellbeing, although no formal law
         | has yet been enacted.
         | 
         | https://avpassociation.com/ireland/
        
           | gregbot wrote:
           | >This debate is driven by concern over youth wellbeing
           | 
           | I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you if you actually think
           | thats what is motivating this
        
         | BoxOfRain wrote:
         | > Ireland is just a copy of the UK
         | 
         | That's certainly a geopolitically contentious take if I've ever
         | seen one.
        
       | amiga386 wrote:
       | This is the entire proposed bill:
       | 
       | https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/bills/bill/2025/11/
       | 
       | https://data.oireachtas.ie/ie/oireachtas/bill/2025/11/eng/in...
       | Interpretation         1. In this Act--             "broadcast"
       | has the meaning assigned to it by the Broadcasting Act 2009;
       | "distribute" means distribute to the public or a section of the
       | public;             "harm" includes psychological harm;
       | "Minister" means the Minister for Justice;             "publish"
       | means publish, other than by way of broadcast, to the public or
       | to a portion of the public.              Offences         2. (1)
       | A person who--                (a) knowingly uses or infringes
       | upon the use of and publishes, performs, distributes, transmits,
       | or otherwise makes available to the public an individual's name,
       | photograph, voice, or likeness in any medium for purposes of
       | advertising products, events, political activities, merchandise,
       | goods, or services or for purposes of fundraising, solicitation
       | of donations, purchases of products, merchandise, goods, or
       | services or to influence elections or referenda, or
       | (b) distributes, transmits, or otherwise makes available an
       | algorithm, software, tool, or other technology, service, or
       | device, the primary purpose or function of which is the
       | production of an individual's photograph, voice, or likeness, is
       | guilty of an offence where these actions are carried out--
       | (i) without the individual's prior consent, or, in the case of a
       | minor, the prior consent of such minor's parent or legal
       | guardian, or in the case of a deceased individual, the consent of
       | the executor or administrator, heirs, or devisees of such
       | deceased individual,                    (ii) with intent to cause
       | harm to, or being reckless as to whether or not harm is caused
       | to, the other person.             (2) For the purposes of
       | subsection (1), a person causes harm to another person where--
       | (a) he or she, by his or her acts, intentionally or recklessly
       | seriously interferes with the other person's peace and privacy or
       | causes alarm or distress to the other person, and
       | (b) his or her acts are such that a reasonable person would
       | realise that the acts would seriously interfere with the other
       | person's peace and privacy or cause alarm or distress to the
       | other person.             (3) A person who is guilty of an
       | offence under this section is liable--                 (a) on
       | summary conviction to a class A fine or imprisonment for a term
       | not exceeding 12 months, or both, or                 (b) on
       | conviction on indictment to a fine or imprisonment for a term not
       | exceeding seven years, or both.              Review and operation
       | of Act         3. The Minister shall, not later than one year
       | after the commencement of this Act, carry out a review of the
       | operation of this Act.              Short title and commencement
       | 4. (1) This Act may be cited as the Protection of Voice and Image
       | Act 2025.            (2) This Act shall come into operation on
       | such day or days as the Minister for Justice may by order or
       | orders appoint either generally or with reference to any
       | particular purpose or provision and different days may be so
       | appointed for different purposes or different provisions.
        
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