[HN Gopher] Flock Hardcoded the Password for America's Surveilla...
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       Flock Hardcoded the Password for America's Surveillance
       Infrastructure 53 Times
        
       Author : fuck_flock
       Score  : 63 points
       Date   : 2026-01-09 16:49 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (nexanet.ai)
        
       | fuck_flock wrote:
       | Flock is fond of saying this:
       | 
       | > "I'm writing to you directly because I want there to be zero
       | confusion about what's happening. Flock has never been hacked.
       | Ever."
       | 
       | They are just lying at this point. If you get involved in
       | advocacy related to flock you will likely hear their reps parrot
       | this. Be ready to combat it with concrete examples like this!
        
       | cyanydeez wrote:
       | Do the MBAs now running tech just have a hardon for becoming the
       | scifi dystopians they read as children?
        
         | DauntingPear7 wrote:
         | Yes, from what I have seen
        
         | thmsths wrote:
         | The dystopian tech does not seem that bad when you believe you
         | will be the one controlling it.
        
         | zzrrt wrote:
         | Not always, sometimes they like to role-play as fallen angels
         | from fantasy books (see Palantir.) (Edit: upon review, the
         | metaphor is strained because Sauron didn't create the
         | palantiri... he did control them later, and there is deeper
         | metaphor that they are unreliable.)
        
           | 01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote:
           | If I had a billion dollars I would shrimply role-play as an
           | actual angel
        
             | sekh60 wrote:
             | That attitude is sadly probably a small factor in you not
             | having a billion dollars.
        
       | cmxch wrote:
       | Then time for responsible disclosure or CFAA charges.
        
       | nxobject wrote:
       | Sheer incompetence. I hope (probably in vain) that police
       | departments and local governments become more savvy technical
       | evaluators of fancy tech solutions.
       | 
       | There was a huge fracas re: ShotSpotter in my town, where both
       | the municipality's CIO and auditor (+ their internal research
       | capacity) were sidelined. It took a sad amount of handholding
       | elected officials through ShotSpotter's technical claims for them
       | to shelve a planned deployment.
        
       | baggachipz wrote:
       | Who could have guessed that the greedy, opportunistic, evil
       | corporation whose sole intent is to invade our privacy in the
       | name of "security" would be run by incompetents in the security
       | realm?
        
         | ncr100 wrote:
         | Here's an elucidation, taking that question seriously,
         | supplying a bunch of "Why's" --
         | 
         | * https://medium.com/@ajay.monga73/why-developers-still-
         | hardco...
        
       | eddyg wrote:
       | Previous related discussion:
       | 
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46355548
        
         | chaps wrote:
         | (this is not the same thing...)
        
           | eddyg wrote:
           | Didn't say it was the same thing; I was linking to a recent
           | _related_ discussion about these cameras
        
             | chaps wrote:
             | Ah, apologies. Happy friday.
        
         | ncr100 wrote:
         | This does link to an example real-world video showing children
         | playing in a park, as recorded by FLOCK CAMERAS, of which the
         | feed is publicly exposed to the Internet.
        
       | fwip wrote:
       | Does anyone else feel like the LLM-tone of this article makes it
       | difficult to understand what's actually important in it? It's not
       | clear to me if the issue is ongoing (like it says) or that it's
       | been resolved by rotating the API key (like it also says). And
       | that's like, the most basic piece of information the article
       | could have in it.
        
       | xnx wrote:
       | Public camera feeds should be public
        
       | bryant wrote:
       | In fairness to flock, they just hired a CISO and are actively
       | recruiting for a head of product security as well. So I'm not
       | surprised they're dealing with some of this.
        
         | SoftTalker wrote:
         | A bit late in the game, considering how widely their stuff is
         | deployed?
        
         | zzrrt wrote:
         | That's fairness to a new employee. Does the multibillion
         | company of a widely-deployed sensitive product deserve a pass
         | for having poor or nonexistent employees doing security
         | previously? Not really IMO.
        
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