[HN Gopher] Pebble Round 2
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       Pebble Round 2
        
       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaDPMZKXcBU
       https://techcrunch.com/2026/01/02/pebble-reboots-its-thinnes...
        
       Author : jackwilsdon
       Score  : 277 points
       Date   : 2026-01-02 14:56 UTC (3 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (repebble.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (repebble.com)
        
       | rationalist wrote:
       | I just placed my pre-order. I never bought the original Pebble
       | Round because it didn't look that good in my opinion, but this
       | one looks great! I like that there is no huge bezel anymore, and
       | that the battery life is now an estimated 2 weeks instead of 3
       | days. It looks more classy and less like a smartwatch.
        
       | erohead wrote:
       | Proud of this one! Feel free to ask any questions you might have.
       | 
       | (Pebble founder)
        
         | illright wrote:
         | Is the Round 2 also going to have screws to potentially replace
         | the battery, like Time 2 does?
         | 
         | Also, while watching the announcement video, I noticed that the
         | pixels are quite a bit more visible on the Round 2 on the same
         | watchface, when compared to Time 2 -- on the Time 2, the image
         | is a lot more crisp. Is that a matter of adapting the
         | watchfaces to the bigger screen?
        
           | erohead wrote:
           | > Screws
           | 
           | Nope! No screws on this one.
           | 
           | > Is that a matter of adapting the watchfaces to the bigger
           | screen?
           | 
           | Yes, exactly.
        
             | illright wrote:
             | Dang, I really liked that there were screws on the Time 2.
             | Does that at least mean waterproofing will be better? :p
             | For instance, would it be a good idea to swim with the
             | Round 2 on?
        
               | erohead wrote:
               | Still doing our water resistance testing on Round 2, but
               | that is the target (30m water resistance)!
        
               | RadiozRadioz wrote:
               | What is the breakdown of customers who care about
               | advanced water resistance versus screws/repairability?
               | 
               | I imagine most want some water resistance (e.g. 1m), but
               | people may be torn on 30m if it means they lose out on
               | screws. I'm in that category.
               | 
               | It would be really cool to see data
        
               | ansgri wrote:
               | 30m (3 bar) basically means splash-proof, not even your
               | stated 1m (activity while submerged, I suppose). Like,
               | 30m is IPX4-5, 50m is IPX6 (very rough equivalence), so
               | 30m is the barest minimum expected from a watch.
        
               | apparent wrote:
               | I wouldn't care so much about WR for a round Pebble,
               | which I'd wear on nicer occasions. I would care more
               | about WR for a watch that I'd wear at the beach or pool,
               | as a way of getting notifications when not carrying my
               | phone.
               | 
               | But screws might add thickness/weight to the watch,
               | compared to glue.
        
             | tills13 wrote:
             | Why no screws when you specifically called out that there
             | ARE screws on the Time and Duo 2s for the sake of longevity
             | of hardware even if the company goes away?
             | 
             | Are you saying there's no access into the watch or that
             | it's more like a traditional circular watch where you can
             | twist off the back?
        
         | donkey_brains wrote:
         | This is awesome, congrats Eric. Almost makes me wish I hadn't
         | switched from Android -> iOS last year before the Pebble
         | announcements started coming out. Any idea if we might see more
         | compatibility with iOS in the near future as Apple is forced to
         | open up the ecosystem a little due to EU regulations? I know
         | they had to allow reading iMessages on 3rd party smartwatches
         | recently which sounds promising for Pebble. Apologies if you
         | already blogged about this and I missed it!
        
           | rationalist wrote:
           | It's not too late to switch back! I'm running GrapheneOS on a
           | Pixel, but supposedly GrapheneOS is working with an OEM to
           | have a GrapheneOS-native phone if you want to wait a little
           | longer.
        
           | erohead wrote:
           | still works fine with iOS, will work even better in EU next
           | year when Apple is forced to comply with the DMA.
        
         | gen3 wrote:
         | On the repebble compare chart the round is marked as having
         | both a speaker and mic, that's incorrect right?
        
           | rationalist wrote:
           | I'm guessing he updated the chart? The chart at
           | https://repebble.com/watch shows mic-only.
        
         | michielr wrote:
         | Haven't watched the video yet, but I don't see the vibrating
         | motor/linear actuator mentioned. I'm assuming this is still
         | included? I'll be switching my Pebble Time 2 order over, these
         | look fantastic.
        
           | rationalist wrote:
           | The chart at https://repebble.com/watch shows it has a
           | "Linear resonance actuator (vibrator)"
        
         | alphager wrote:
         | Is the situation with Rebble solved?
        
           | bl4kers wrote:
           | Rebble apologized, withdrew claims, and left the door open
           | for future collaboration. They are
           | restructuring/reorganizing.
           | 
           | Core Devices pushed out modularity updates to be less
           | dependent on Rebble's app store and started their own.
           | 
           | That's the latest public information.
        
             | StopDisinfo910 wrote:
             | Understand, no, it didn't.
             | 
             | Rebble forced their hands and the community is as good as
             | dead.
        
         | Willamin wrote:
         | Is a normal (non-rose) gold (or even a brass) color something
         | we could look forward go in the future?
         | 
         | Was the decision to not sell that color based on expected
         | demand for the color or did it not work for some other reason?
        
           | erohead wrote:
           | No plans to offer more SKUs, sorry. Already have enough to
           | manage.
        
             | apparent wrote:
             | How did you decide which colors/sizes to offer this time
             | around? Seems like a reasonable mix, but I also wondered if
             | regular gold could have broader appeal. Perhaps it wouldn't
             | help though, since you'd have to make different SKUs based
             | on band width, assuming women would get the narrower one
             | and men would get the wider one?
        
         | treffer wrote:
         | I pre-ordered because I loved the Pebble Round - especially the
         | size and look. My intended use case is for formal dress codes
         | and special events (weddings, new years, ...) wheretny fennix
         | 51mm does not fit in (literally and figuratively).
         | 
         | That said: I can't find full dimensions for the new round 2. I
         | can guesstimate that it should be 10-20% smaller in diameter
         | and less than 2/3 the thickness.
         | 
         | Would you mind sharing full dimensions or even update the post?
         | 
         | And congratulations! I really like this. I hope there will be
         | enough of a market to support this project long term.
        
           | apparent wrote:
           | Yes, the slimness and ability to dress up are certainly huge
           | selling points. It does look about 1/4 thinner than the PT2,
           | which is presumably much thinner/smaller than your fennix.
           | 
           | Honestly, even with a PT2 on order, I would consider getting
           | one of these for the occasions (1x/wk?) where I am wearing a
           | dress shirt or otherwise want to look a little more dressed
           | up. It honestly would probably also be a nice conversation
           | starter because you can set it up with a traditional
           | watchface, but then when you get a notification it would
           | obviously not be a traditional watch. And it's so much
           | thinner than Google/Samsung and other round smartwatches, it
           | wouldn't be confused with those.
        
           | illright wrote:
           | You can see the dimensions in the full spec table on the
           | preorder page
           | 
           | https://repebble.com/watch
        
             | treffer wrote:
             | Oh great, I missed that end of the page. The "Round 2
             | details" links back to the blog and it is hard to see the
             | FAQ on mobile (needs manual scrolling to the end).
             | 
             | Google search and Perplexity failed when I tried, too.
             | Google search has caught up now (haven't retried
             | Perplexity)
             | 
             | A 41.5mm diameter sounds good. That's a whopping 10mm/20%
             | smaller than my current watch. Should be really neat given
             | the thickness.
        
         | 15155 wrote:
         | What is the e-paper display part number / manufacturer?
        
           | erohead wrote:
           | sharp, same display that's in Garmin MIP watches (like
           | Forerunner 255) but tbh looks much better in Round 2!
        
         | girvo wrote:
         | As someone who had the original Pebble Steel, and then moved to
         | the Pebble Round (20mm) until it literally stopped working, I'm
         | super happy you've done this, and incredibly happy that you let
         | me change my pre-order from my Time 2 to the Round 2. Can't
         | wait!
        
         | cyberax wrote:
         | I like everything about Pebble Round 2, except that it's round.
         | I _HATE_ round watches with a passion, it's just form over
         | function for electronic watches. Coincidentally, that's also
         | why I still have an iWatch even though my phone is Android.
         | There are _no_ good rectangular Android watches.
         | 
         | Are you planning something like this but with a rectangular
         | screen? I have Time 2 on pre-order, but I'd love to buy a
         | water-resistant watch.
        
         | doctorpangloss wrote:
         | this is supposed to be the part where i say something about the
         | smart watch. i own a $20 Casio F91 that should cost $3 at
         | retail, which is to say, i'm not really your intended audience.
         | is performative positivity an obligation for interesting
         | questions? is it the only framework to figure out products? do
         | you see?
         | 
         | is positivity the only valid emotion for a product launch?
         | 
         | how do you balance your experience with the rewards of taking
         | risks?
        
         | hollow-moe wrote:
         | How does the sleep tracking works on the Round? Is it reliable?
         | I'm currently using a Mi Band 7 and it works great with
         | gadgetbridge and it has a heart-rate monitor.
        
       | summermusic wrote:
       | I had pre-ordered a Time 2, but I switched to the Round 2 because
       | it's cheaper and I don't really care about the features it is
       | missing (heart rate monitor and speaker) or the shape of the
       | face. It's awesome that they let you switch without losing your
       | place in line, very customer-focused of them.
        
         | apparent wrote:
         | I thought about it but didn't because the battery life
         | difference is pretty big (10-14 vs 30), and according to his
         | comment below, apparently the battery is not replaceable.
         | 
         | I assume it would actually be replaceable if one were
         | sufficiently motivated, but the fact that it's not meant to be
         | replaceable is not so great.
         | 
         | Honestly if the PT2 weren't replaceable I wouldn't mind so
         | much, since starting of with 30 days of battery means it can
         | degrade a lot before it hits a threshold I care about (1 week,
         | roughly). But if the PR2 starts off around 10 days, it doesn't
         | have far to fall before it hits that threshold.
         | 
         | Perhaps the biggest reason I didn't swap my order, though, is
         | that I don't want to wait several more months to get my Pebble!
        
           | blacksmith_tb wrote:
           | Yes, your calculus is exactly like mine - there are things to
           | like about the Round (personally I just find round watches
           | more aesthetically pleasing, we've had a couple hundred years
           | of mostly round cases...), but I want longer battery and a
           | shorter wait to get my watch.
        
       | gumby271 wrote:
       | Damn that's a nice looking watch! Really feels like they got to
       | build what they wanted to 10 years ago but the tech wasn't there.
       | Can't wait to build some sleek round watch faces once I get mine
       | (unless there's an emulator already?)
        
       | lawn wrote:
       | It sure looks nice but I'm keeping my Time 2 order as it's got a
       | much better battery life.
       | 
       | Still, I'm sure this will appeal to many people.
        
       | ilvez wrote:
       | I'm also going for Time 2 because heartrate monitor. Round 2
       | looks so nice, gratz on design! That Mario watchface is so fun on
       | it.
        
       | modeless wrote:
       | I still consider the original Pebble Time Round to be the best
       | smartwatch ever made, even 10 years on. Until now. This is
       | everything I ever wanted in a watch. I can't wait to get mine! I
       | may have to spend some time doing remakes of my favorite watch
       | faces for the new screen resolution.
        
       | ImPostingOnHN wrote:
       | _> No more bezel_
       | 
       | Maybe I'm looking at the wrong image, but I see a silver bezel
       | going all around the watch screen.
       | 
       | I thought "no bezel" on a screen means the screen goes all the
       | way to the edges of the device.
       | 
       | Still want one tho.
        
         | apparent wrote:
         | I think pretty much all watches have some sort of raised
         | dial/edge in order to protect the glass. This one is not as
         | small as some, but compared to the original round pebble, this
         | is much, much smaller.
        
           | jerlam wrote:
           | Except, of course, the most popular smartwatch (Apple Watch)
           | which extends the glass above the case, giving it zero
           | protection against impacts from the front.
        
             | walletdrainer wrote:
             | FWIW the same is true of the Rolex Daytona and Patek
             | Philippe Nautilus.
             | 
             | There's probably an actual reason for why this is done. On
             | a mechanical watch I'd often prefer for the crystal to be
             | damaged rather than the case, though I'm not sure that the
             | same logic works for Apple Watches.
        
               | aidenn0 wrote:
               | Does one ever polish a crystal? Having it raised would
               | make that much easier (also if one does, tell me who can
               | do it to mine, my crystal is scratched to the point where
               | I can't read my watch if the main lighting is behind me).
        
           | walletdrainer wrote:
           | All the (fancy, mechanical) watches I had within reach seem
           | to actually have the crystal slightly protruding out of the
           | case.
        
             | apparent wrote:
             | I don't have any fancy watches in reach, but was just
             | talking about watches in general. I think it makes sense to
             | compare $200 Pebbles to similarly-priced watches (smart and
             | otherwise) in this regard. I can imagine that diamond-
             | encrusted or otherwise dearly-priced watches differ in
             | terms of use case and design tradeoffs.
        
               | ramses0 wrote:
               | I'm very minorly into watches and $200 is very "mid/base"
               | for watches.
               | 
               | My most expensive watch is a Fenix7 (used) @ $300. Then
               | ~$150 for a "Svalbard" single hand automatic (winding)
               | watch, and a smattering of "$50-80, used off eBay"
               | watches.
               | 
               | I had two (used) pebble watches back in the day, pre-
               | ordered the PT2 before they went bankrupt, and have
               | preordered the "new" PT2 (at ~$200 price range).
               | 
               | Freaking Timex Expedition is costing $60-80 on sale
               | nowadays. No smart stuff, just "chunky Casio vibes" and
               | it's $80. Timex "Transcend" is a fun one in the $100
               | price range.
               | 
               | Apple Watch SE is $250, and all the re-pebbles are $200
               | price range? Color me impressed!
               | 
               | I hate to say that Pebble Round 2 is "almost an impulse
               | buy" (prior to Time2 shipping), but there are occasions
               | (eg: last night) where my Garmin was out of battery, I
               | went to a friends house, so I pulled out my slightly
               | fancier round-dial analog watch.
               | 
               | The fact that pebble is hitting $200 price points is
               | actually an incredible (and hopefully sustainable!) value
               | for what they offer!
        
               | apparent wrote:
               | > Apple Watch SE is $250, and all the re-pebbles are $200
               | price range? Color me impressed!
               | 
               | I have wondered why Eric didn't price them higher, and I
               | think it comes down to wanting to make sure there is
               | sufficient demand to justify production runs, and staving
               | off competition that could front-run him and use his open
               | source software too.
               | 
               | I am genuinely curious to see what competition emerges,
               | and how long it takes to appear.
        
               | aidenn0 wrote:
               | My Seiko Kinetic that I got for around $100 has the
               | crystal surface about 1mm above the case (it is beveled
               | though, so slightly narrower on top than where it meets
               | the case; I assume a right angle would be both unpleasant
               | to touch and more liable to break the glass; it's too
               | cheap to be a mineral crystal.
        
         | kridsdale1 wrote:
         | I don't get why you'd want no bezel on a watch. Look how big
         | the bezel is on a Rolex GMT Master 2, or an Omega Seamaster.
        
           | ansgri wrote:
           | The bezel is kinda functional on these watches, also they
           | need it for huge water resistance. This Pebble is more
           | comparable to traditional dress watches which don't have a
           | prominent bezel.
        
         | liampulles wrote:
         | Yes, no more bezel cuts off the details. What is meant is that
         | does not have the big bezel of the original Pebble Round.
        
         | c22 wrote:
         | The original round Pebble had an octogonal screen with a big
         | chunky ring overlapping all the edges making it look round. I
         | guess there are rounder display options now so the screen can
         | go to the edge of the case.
        
       | hasperdi wrote:
       | May the build quality and customer support be better this time
       | around vs. last time.
        
       | aprilnya wrote:
       | For a while I've wanted a smartwatch that's not too smart, and is
       | more focused on looks... I think this might be the watch I
       | finally keep
        
       | urbandw311er wrote:
       | Anybody know how much the price goes up, typically, after the
       | preorder phase?
        
       | sho_hn wrote:
       | I'm sorry for the sour grapes, but the recent ring announcement -
       | disposable, single-charge electronics - soured me on the entire
       | brand in a "never meet your heroes" sort of way. Somehow it makes
       | the idea of wearing one of the watches a negative statement
       | piece.
        
         | rationalist wrote:
         | The miniscule ring? That size/time doesn't bother me. Now if it
         | was something the size of a phone, that would bother me.
         | 
         | I'm expecting that by the time I use up the first version
         | ring's battery, a better version (maybe rechargeable) will be
         | released.
        
           | tills13 wrote:
           | The problem isn't the form factor, it's that it's guaranteed
           | e-waste. Once it runs out of battery, that's it. I think the
           | pebble guy said that it should last a few months with regular
           | usage but like... What a waste of materials.
        
             | sho_hn wrote:
             | Yeah, it's the principle that gets me. "By the time it run
             | out of power, there will be a new version" does nothing to
             | make it better, either. That's like Planned Obsolescence
             | 2.0.
             | 
             | I just don't think we should make stuff like this, and I
             | definitely don't want to signal support for it on my wrist.
        
             | apparent wrote:
             | I'm curious how you feel about AirPods, for example. They
             | also do not have replaceable batteries, and after a few
             | years of regular use they become increasingly unusable for
             | their intended purpose.
             | 
             | I have a different memory than you regarding the expected
             | lifespan of the ring, which I think was 1-2 years with
             | normal usage. I don't plan to get one, but it certainly
             | hasn't soured me on the brand. There's pretty clear
             | tradeoffs involved with putting replaceable or rechargeable
             | batteries in such a small device.
             | 
             | Some people were very upset that iPhones didn't have
             | replaceable batteries like Blackberries. But it would seem
             | that pretty much everyone got over that. With even tinier
             | devices like AirPods and smart rings, it would seem like
             | even less of an e-waste issue. I say this as someone who
             | has no plans to get one of these things, FWIW.
        
               | sho_hn wrote:
               | The ring doesn't just have irreplaceable batteries, it
               | _cannot be charged_. You get it charged and once it 's
               | empty, it's obsolete. The more you use it, the faster
               | this happens, and the usage they advertised was very much
               | not using it very regularly at that.
               | 
               | I'm not tilting at the "the battery cannot be removed!"
               | windmill. This is a whole new low. It's consumable
               | consumer electronics.
               | 
               | The only thing that will prevent this from becoming a
               | cautionary tale for the ages, a Juicero of e-waste, is
               | its lack of cultural relevance.
        
               | apparent wrote:
               | I get that, but if the question is about e-waste volume,
               | don't we have to compare the amount of e-waste that
               | results from tossing a non-rechargeable ring after it's
               | depleted versus making all of the rings larger and
               | creating chargers for them?
               | 
               | It's like the argument about reusable grocery bags: they
               | can have a smaller carbon footprint than disposable ones,
               | but only if you use them like 120 times (most people
               | don't come close).
               | 
               | How big would the charger be, how much bigger would the
               | ring be, and how many charge cycles would it have to
               | undergo in order for the e-waste math to be favorable?
               | And does that solve the issue, or will people still be
               | complaining that it's not a replaceable battery?
               | 
               | I guess I just tend to give a little more benefit of the
               | doubt to the creator, who has presumably thought about
               | these things and at any rate is making a niche product
               | that is physically very small. It seems like this could
               | only reach a reasonable volume of waste if it were mass-
               | market or much larger per-unit.
        
         | micromacrofoot wrote:
         | If you've ever thrown out a single smartphone, by weight you've
         | created more ewaste than a lifetime of those rings. There's
         | more ewaste in a single AA battery, surely you must complain
         | about those in every comment thread they're mentioned?
        
       | solarkraft wrote:
       | This almost feels like planned obsolescence, with my Pebble Time
       | Steel just recently starting to give up =) I'm joking, the thing
       | has held up amazingly well under all the stress I have put it
       | through for a remarkably long time. It's just pretty well timed,
       | in a way.
       | 
       | I've been holding out for a refresh that can compete with the
       | look of the Time Steel, basically the design of the original Time
       | 2. I _might_ go with this one, but that would mean having to
       | abandon the square watchface I 've grown fond of. Maybe there are
       | some nice round ones. The two weeks of battery life and activity
       | tracking are greatly appreciated!
       | 
       | > Touchscreen (but you don't have to use it!)
       | 
       | What a ride. I hate touchscreens with a burning passion. I hope
       | it can be disabled.
        
       | faldor20 wrote:
       | I'm a staunch believer that watches should be small enough to
       | never annoy, always show the time, and never have to be charged
       | but I think this finally does all those things well enough that
       | it's a legitimate option.
       | 
       | What is that warranty though? 30 days is pretty rough for a new
       | and untested product. It's definitely enough to make me hold off
       | for a year just in case.
        
         | kridsdale1 wrote:
         | My case full of mechanical watches need to be "charged" every
         | 30-50 hours. At least they do indeed tell time.
        
         | apparent wrote:
         | I hear you, but the first new Pebble is getting good reviews.
         | It's been out for months and I've not heard anything bad about
         | it. While the upcoming models are a bit less derivative of past
         | watches, they are still pretty well-grounded in prior Pebbles.
         | The software is the same as the P2D, and the hardware is pretty
         | similar to the prior rect/round Pebbles.
         | 
         | I believe things could go wrong, but I'm not sure what sort of
         | latent errors would make sense to worry about. The battery life
         | dropping precipitously? (Why would it do this?) Sensors
         | breaking within a couple months? (Again, what would lead to
         | this?).
         | 
         | I'm curious to know what you are concerned about. I agree that
         | a year of track record would be great, but IMO a Pebble will be
         | such a big upgrade over pretty much anything else out there
         | (AWs etc. that need charging all the damn time), that I'd
         | rather not wait a year for the additional data to come in.
        
         | liampulles wrote:
         | If the production is similar to the PT2 watches, then there
         | will be public beta testing before watches are shipped.
        
       | com2kid wrote:
       | I have no idea how the 2 major smart watches (android wear, apple
       | watch) have such horrible battery life. Microsoft Band had a 3
       | day battery life that would've been 5 days if we weren't forced
       | to use a trash accelerometer that drained our battery by a crazy
       | amount.
       | 
       | That aside, Android wear being a complete OS is a waste of power.
       | There aren't any useful apps for it that take advantage of the
       | watch running a full OS.
       | 
       | I'm also miffed that OS updates have dropped by pixel watch's
       | battery life from 3 days down to 1 and a half.
       | 
       | Good on Pebble for taking a reasonable approach to watch OS
       | design. I presume apple decided they are minting money with a
       | 2-ish day battery life so why bother improving things, but it is
       | sad that most companies don't care about doing the right thing
       | anymore.
        
         | hsbauauvhabzb wrote:
         | > works at Microsoft
         | 
         | > it is sad that most companies don't care about doing the
         | right thing anymore
         | 
         | Throw rocks once you've stopped the windows 11 spam machine.
        
           | com2kid wrote:
           | I haven't worked at Microsoft since 2015.
           | 
           | Currently running Linux on my home PC because I can't stand
           | windows 11.
        
         | ossusermivami wrote:
         | garmin is arguably one major smart watch vendor and has a great
         | battery life
        
           | mmmlinux wrote:
           | Garmin is more fitness tracker than smartwatch.
        
             | weavie wrote:
             | As someone who has only ever had a Garmin, what am I
             | missing from other smartwatches?
        
             | baggachipz wrote:
             | I get notifications for text messages, phone calls, and
             | emails on my VivoActive 6. There are also good apps; for
             | instance, the built-in (free) golf app is great. Battery
             | lasts over a week, too. So far, I'm pretty happy with it
             | and don't feel the need to get an Apple Watch which
             | requires charging every day.
        
         | nicolaslem wrote:
         | For what it does, the battery life of the Apple Watch 11 is not
         | that bad. It typically lasts more than 48h for me and charges
         | very quickly. Putting it to charge when taking a shower is
         | enough to not have to think about battery life.
        
           | lawn wrote:
           | 48h is still pretty bad honestly.
        
           | apparent wrote:
           | Fair, but that means you have to bring a special purpose
           | charger with you anytime you go somewhere for more than ~36
           | hours. For me, that's the bigger issue. If I could charge
           | inductively on the back of my iPhone, for example, I wouldn't
           | mind as much.
        
             | nicolaslem wrote:
             | I hear you, personally grabbing the charger for overnight
             | stays hasn't been a problem but there are a few
             | compact/inexpensive third-party dongles that are like the
             | official charging cable but without the cable[0]. They can
             | be stay in a car, laptop bag, etc. and charge the watch
             | from an iPhone or another usb-c power source.
             | 
             | [0] Random example for illustration
             | https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CKV9JBR4
        
               | apparent wrote:
               | Huh interesting, I guess that would help somewhat. But
               | for me, I prefer to pretty much never have to worry about
               | charging my watch.
               | 
               | As a kid, I had watches that didn't need new batteries
               | for years. As an adult, I was willing to trade off some
               | battery life (down to a week or so) in order to get
               | notifications my wrist, music controls, and activity
               | tracking.
               | 
               | Although I can see some benefit in being able to see my
               | Uber status in real time, or other app-related
               | functionality, I am not interested in charging a wearable
               | every day or two. I don't want to have to worry about
               | whether I'm "using my watch too much" to be able to make
               | it through a short trip, or until the end of my second
               | day.
               | 
               | I know some people have different preferences on this,
               | but for me a watch should be something that doesn't
               | require any maintenance for weeks at a time.
        
               | pjerem wrote:
               | > As a kid, I had watches that didn't need new batteries
               | for years.
               | 
               | Haha, my kid just got his first watch for Christmas. A
               | Casio. He loves it.
               | 
               | On the box, it's written << 10 years of autonomy >> and I
               | was like << oh, I forgot it was a thing >>.
        
         | RestartKernel wrote:
         | The Nothing CMF Watch has a true (two?) week-long battery life
         | due to its RTOS, but it's kind of mediocre otherwise. More like
         | a souped up Casio.
        
           | StopDisinfo910 wrote:
           | Oppo and OnePlus have around 10 days with a full Android Wear
           | system using a clever hybrid technologie running another low
           | powered OS when Wear is not required.
           | 
           | The market is very different nowadays than when the Pebble
           | came out.
        
         | TrainedMonkey wrote:
         | Withings smart watches are kind of insane with 30 day battery
         | life, but the subscription farming in the app is infuriating.
         | 
         | All I want from a smart watch:
         | 
         | - Waterproof, wireless charging, at least a week of battery
         | life
         | 
         | - Automatically track exercise and sleep, let me update the
         | data if needed.
         | 
         | - Track my fitness trends over time, looking at you resting
         | heart rate
         | 
         | - Optionally, learn a couple of recurring patterns to improve
         | automatic exercise assignment. If I hike twice a week and you
         | see an exercise session with a consistent heart rate profile
         | you better believe I am hiking
        
         | wvenable wrote:
         | I can get days out of my Samsung Watch 7 if I turn off
         | everything like the always on display, constant health
         | tracking, Wifi, etc. But I don't.
        
       | RestartKernel wrote:
       | Looks great, but a mere 30 day warranty for manufacturing defects
       | is kind of insane. I'm glad they're planning to fully support
       | notifications on iOS in the EU due to the DMA, but that warranty
       | wouldn't even be legal if they sell directly within the EU.
        
         | lm28469 wrote:
         | > Looks great, but a mere 30 day warranty for manufacturing
         | defects is kind of insane.
         | 
         | It's illegal in advanced societies, but americans call these
         | things "communism" (the rest of the world uses "regulations")
        
       | thedangler wrote:
       | Bring back Pebble Steal. I lost my original and got the pebble
       | time 2 but its just not the same.
        
         | cognisent wrote:
         | You can get a Pebble Steal next time you see someone wearing
         | one in public...
        
       | mrinterweb wrote:
       | Pebble seems to be the only watch company that I feel understands
       | what a smartwatch should be. It feels like everyone else is
       | trying to make a phone replacement. Pebbles are more of an
       | extension to your phone. Sure it can do some things without the
       | phone, but it isn't trying to make calls, access mobile data with
       | its own sim, use GPS. Those kinds of watches feel like they are
       | designed for athletes who want to leave their phone at home. I'm
       | not that guy. My phone comes with me everywhere, so why would I
       | want phone-light on my wrist when my phone in my pocket can do it
       | better?
       | 
       | Pebble also gets battery life. Pebble's 2 weeks compared to 1 day
       | on my pixel watch 3. Want to use that cool sleep tracking feature
       | on your smartwatch? Guess what? Its on the charger.
        
         | Pfhortune wrote:
         | Exactly this. Pebbles feel like they were built from the ground
         | up to be a watch, whereas the Apple Watch and Android Wear feel
         | like they started from a phone and stripped things away until
         | it became a watch.
         | 
         | Separately, it baffles me that Garmin, despite them having also
         | built a watch OS from the ground up, never understood
         | watch/limited-button UX. Their Instinct and Forerunner watches
         | have all sorts of wonky, hidden and arcane interactions with
         | buttons (long press this to X, press this here to Y). Pebble
         | proves that a simple, shallow, and linear menu system works
         | great!
        
           | sahila wrote:
           | > Pebble proves that a simple, shallow, and linear menu
           | system works great!
           | 
           | Hard to say this is true when Garmin watches are far more
           | successful than Pebble. That aside, the forerunner is a
           | sports watch first where you want lots of physical buttons
           | that don't get bothered by sweat. The better Garmin
           | comparison is the Venu series which only have two buttons
           | https://www.garmin.com/en-US/c/wearables-
           | smartwatches/?serie....
        
           | glitchc wrote:
           | Well, Garmin is a GPS company, not a watch company. The watch
           | is simply the most popular form factor.
        
       | Jiro wrote:
       | So there is no way to get weather on this? That's conspicuously
       | absent from the features.
        
         | sumitgt wrote:
         | There's a ton of apps and watchfaces on the Pebble that show
         | the weather
        
           | Jiro wrote:
           | There's a ton of apps and watchfaces on the existing Pebble
           | appstore that showed the weather back when the earlier
           | Pebbles were new. I don't think any of them still work,
           | because they depend on being able to access services that
           | were around back then. These new Pebbles conspicuously don't
           | list the ability to show the weather.
        
       | barefootford wrote:
       | Sorta wish they would ship the last watches before announcing
       | more that are months away. I'm pretty sure I preordered 9 months
       | ago and still have nothing to show for it.
        
         | modeless wrote:
         | They're announcing now so that you can switch your preorder if
         | you want. I got my Pebble 2 Duo a while ago and have been
         | wearing it ever since.
        
       | rvz wrote:
       | > Dual microphones for speech input (eg interacting with AI
       | agents) and replying to.
       | 
       | But no heart rate monitor.
        
       | IshKebab wrote:
       | How are they reusing the mechanical design from the original
       | Pebble Round when they sold it to Google?
        
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