[HN Gopher] Bison return to Illinois' Kane County after 200 years
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       Bison return to Illinois' Kane County after 200 years
        
       Author : bikenaga
       Score  : 95 points
       Date   : 2025-12-30 18:22 UTC (5 days ago)
        
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       | pfdietz wrote:
       | There have been bison at Fermilab for some years, but they are
       | just over the border in Dupage County, not Kane County.
       | 
       | Kane Country has had cougars for quite a while. :)
        
         | pushcx wrote:
         | There's a couple dozen at Midewin, too:
         | https://www.fs.usda.gov/r09/midewin/animals-plants/bison-pro...
        
       | rickcarlino wrote:
       | Look at that our little midwestern county is on the front page of
       | HN.
       | 
       | Are they going to be able to free range, the way we commonly see
       | whitetail deer roaming around the county?
        
         | chrisco255 wrote:
         | It's probably harder for bison to free range like deer these
         | days. Deer are extremely agile and can leap most fences with
         | ease. Deer are also pretty docile when they're not in rut.
         | Outside of nature preserves it doesn't seem realistic.
        
           | rickcarlino wrote:
           | That's what I was wondering. Makes sense.
        
           | flyinghamster wrote:
           | An additional data point is that Midewin's bison area is
           | surrounded by a double fence - a barbed-wire one to keep the
           | humans out and a stout steel one to keep the bison in.
        
             | jjtheblunt wrote:
             | The Fermilab bison used to have (probably still do) a sign
             | in their field that said, amusingly, not to jump the fence
             | into the field unless you can cross it in 9 seconds,
             | because the bull can do it in 10. (grew up on the DuPage
             | county side of Fermilab, got to take physics there too,
             | which was awesome)
        
           | dylan604 wrote:
           | I don't think bison really care about fences either. While
           | they don't leap over them, they just walk through them
        
           | dhosek wrote:
           | Deer have become almost a nuisance species closer in to
           | Chicago. I've seen them in Oak Park about 2 miles away from
           | the nearest forest land. In River Forest, which actually
           | contains forest preserve, things got so bad the village
           | wanted to hire a firm to shoot the deer, but the residents
           | were too shocked by that proposal and it never happened.
        
       | chrisco255 wrote:
       | I love American bison and try to eat bison burgers and steak as
       | much as possible to reward the ranchers who choose to raise them
       | over cows.
        
         | hopelite wrote:
         | Unfortunately there are apparently no real true American bison
         | anymore. A sturdy a while ago showed that all American bison in
         | all of North America have varying degrees of cattle DNA.
         | They're basically all "beefalo". They are quite different from
         | cattle in many ways, but they aren't actually really American
         | bison anymore. Those technically are extinct by objective
         | measures, not all that different than if you breed one dog with
         | a different one, the offspring is neither of the parents and
         | also basically nothing at all until some defining
         | characteristics are identified, reproduced and named at least
         | as a sub-breed.
        
           | dabluecaboose wrote:
           | There are several extant herds that have been genetically
           | tested and proven "pure", although they're the minority
        
       | 1123581321 wrote:
       | This is good to see. Also, I didn't realize until now that
       | Burlington was Kane and not DeKalb!
        
       | cwal37 wrote:
       | That's cool to see, obiously Fermi has had them as someone else
       | mentioned.
       | 
       | I grew up in Kane County, in the 90s it was the edge of the
       | suburban-rural interface of Chicagoland (used to be the last
       | commuter rail stop from the city).
       | 
       | Random fun tidbit is the WW1 code-breaking[0] that took place
       | there as well, which today remains an acoustics lab[1].
       | 
       | [0]https://web.archive.org/web/20220521185943/https://northwest..
       | .
       | 
       | [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riverbank_Laboratories
        
       | rdiddly wrote:
       | Stuff like this gives a satisfying sense of restoring order. This
       | is the way things were before dramatic human intervention. The
       | ironic part is that the restoration itself requires human
       | intervention. I always find myself wondering what would happen if
       | humans just disappeared overnight. How things are now would be
       | the starting point of the "new natural." Ecosystems probably
       | wouldn't return to the way they were before Europeans arrived;
       | they would proceed along some new pathway. Not least because of
       | how much we've already changed the climate, and the species we've
       | introduced. Then I think about a time 100,000 years after this
       | hypothetical disappearance of humans and picture conservationists
       | of whatever species, aliens maybe, concerned with protecting the
       | indigenous species they found like wild cows, Himalayan
       | blackberry and kudzu, that are now endangered by overdevelopment
       | and global cooling.
       | 
       | Anyway it would be really interesting to be able to chart the
       | changes to this microcosm of a prairie ecosystem over thousands
       | of years if there were no human intervention whatsoever.
        
         | easywood wrote:
         | You should read "The World Without Us" by Alan Weisman.
        
           | sorentwo wrote:
           | Seconded. I was going to say the exact same thing. Brilliant
           | thought exercise that I still think about on a weekly basis
           | 20 years later.
        
         | soperj wrote:
         | Wild cows won't really happen, aside from them being easy prey,
         | milk cows can't even feed their young because they produce so
         | much milk that they drown them. They have to feed the babies
         | with a bottle.
        
           | Mistletoe wrote:
           | Do you have a reference for that? Some googling says it is a
           | myth, which sounds right.
        
         | kitesay wrote:
         | More like a managed herd in a fenced paddock. A spring tourist
         | attraction.
         | 
         | I wonder how climate change is going to affect the idealistic
         | "restore the ecosystem" plan.
        
       | proxysna wrote:
       | For a second I read it as a return to Illumos. Some GCC related
       | story.
        
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