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Iran Protests Enter Third Straight Day as Students Join In
Author : JumpCrisscross
Score : 56 points
Date : 2025-12-30 19:11 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| josefritzishere wrote:
| The timing of this seems rather suspect.
| lostlogin wrote:
| Please could you explain this?
| hashbig wrote:
| Israel and the US are planning a new war on Iran.
| Historically (in Iran and other places), we saw political and
| internal crises emerge/staged when the US is planning a
| regime change in that country.
| throw310822 wrote:
| > Israel and the US are planning a new war on Iran
|
| Source?
| throwaway894345 wrote:
| Iran has protests all the time, as do lots of other
| countries _including the US_ and France and others and they
| don't herald US-led regime change. But if you have evidence
| for your claim that the US and Israel are planning a war in
| Iran, that would be major international news.
| f33d5173 wrote:
| It is. I heard about it on the radio.
| crazydoggers wrote:
| I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact Iran is so
| mismanaged and suffering from severe drought they are
| talking about water rations or evacuations in Tehran.. or
| the plummeting of their currency [1] .. or the fact that
| the majority of the country doesn't even support the
| current government [2] ... no must be a conspiracy.
| </sarcasm>
|
| 1. https://www.meforum.org/mef-observer/irans-currency-
| collapse...
|
| 2. https://www.iranintl.com/en/202302036145
| shwaj wrote:
| Why not both? No need to be so disparaging.
| crazydoggers wrote:
| We should be disparaging of fear mongering conspiracy
| theories that have no facts to back them up. Just like if
| you told me Democrats in the US are controlling
| hurricanes, or that 5G caused covid.
| shwaj wrote:
| _Just_ like those? Those examples are _highly_
| improbable, whereas the CIA is almost certainly active in
| Iran right now (that's their job!), even if there isn't
| evidence that they are behind these particular protests.
| concinds wrote:
| People are disparaging of dumb conspiracism. This notion
| that any protest in a dictatorship is a CIA plot is
| bullshit. The whole "CIA color revolution" concept is
| bullshit meant to delegitimize and demoralize legitimate
| grassroots movements against shitty dictatorships. Even
| the Iranian leadership is publicly acknowledging their
| legitimacy shortfall and the economic catastrophe, and
| that's saying something.
|
| If you don't believe in protests within dictatorships
| then you don't believe in democracy. As simple as that.
| krapp wrote:
| "A CIA plot" goes too far, true. But to believe the CIA
| isn't involved _at all_ in fomenting revolution in a
| country whose current government is the result of the CIA
| having done so in the past, and which the US considers
| part of the "Axis of Evil," and which is an ally to a
| country the US is currently waging a war of aggression
| and plunder against (Venezuela) seems naive.
| sorokod wrote:
| On the reason spectrum of :
|
| - 50% inflation, tax hikes and currency devaluation [1]
|
| - Manufactured crisis
|
| - The presence of the 3i comet in our solar system
|
| where would Occam's razor cut?
|
| [1] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/12/26/irans-
| government-b...
| JumpCrisscross wrote:
| > _Israel and the US are planning a new war on Iran_
|
| Israel and America are sabre rattling with Iran. It's been
| happening for about as long as Iran has been calling for
| death to America and Israel.
| Sleaker wrote:
| WSJ wont open for me, but was able to find it via MSN:
| https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iran-protests-enter-thi...
|
| not sure where to pull that doesn't have tracking, not seeing it
| on archive yet.
| FridayoLeary wrote:
| It will probably be crushed like all the other protests,
| unfortunately. But iran is in a worse state then it's ever been.
| The catalyst for this round is a currency collapse and a looming
| water crisis. Sadly, the Revolutionary corps seem well funded
| from oil money.
|
| At the moment Iran is rebuilding it's rocket stockpile with help
| from china (something which Israel and the US should be much more
| proactive about IMO) in preparation for the next round of
| hostilities in which they will no doubt be humiliated again. They
| are probably hoping to hit more then 1 hospital and 3 residential
| blocks next time and retain what's left of their shattered
| ambitions and ego.
|
| Still we can always hope for a regime collapse. From a foreign
| policy point of view they are weaker then ever. Security wise i
| don't know how they are doing.
| keeganpoppen wrote:
| i hope only the best for the people of iran because they seem
| to be completely fantastic people and iran is an absolutely
| majestically beautiful place. and, selfishly, i would love to
| be able to visit one day. ugh, the whole situation is just so
| sad.
| yupyupyups wrote:
| >They are probably hoping to hit more then 1 hospital and 3
| residential blocks next time
|
| Are they planning to bomb more buildings in Gaza?
| FridayoLeary wrote:
| I don't know. It's possible that one of their hundreds of
| indiscriminately fired missiles might land there. Iirc the
| sole casualty of one of their major attacks was a gazan in
| the West Bank.
| therobots927 wrote:
| How many hospitals has Israel blown up? Last I checked, it
| was every single one in Gaza.
| abacadaba wrote:
| none, but there may have been one or two military bases
| disguised as hospitals that sustained some damage
| JumpCrisscross wrote:
| > _Iran is rebuilding it 's rocket stockpile with help from
| china_
|
| Has this been confirmed?
|
| > _From a foreign policy point of view they are weaker then
| ever. Security wise i don 't know how they are doing_
|
| Iran's borders encompass a bit of a shitshow. Its dominant
| ethnicity is less than three fifths the population [1]. Its
| next three-largest ethnicities, Azeris (14%), Kurds (9%) and
| Gilaki (5%) meanwhile, have bordering extant or aspiring
| nation-states.
|
| (To the extent there is a hilarious if bastardly alliance in
| the region, it would be between Israel and Azerbaijan. Israel
| provides firepower. Azerbaijan gains the Azeri (and maybe
| Gilaki) majority north of Iran, cutting off Armenia's southern
| border and giving it a land border with Turkey for more
| pipelines.)
|
| [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Iran
| mamonster wrote:
| >helping the latter seize Iran's northern and Azeri/Gilaki-
| majority territories
|
| Wont't ever happen because Aliev is the OG of
| multipolarity/mnogovektornost and this would prevent him from
| scamming all of his neighbors at the same time.
| 2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote:
| https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/29/middleeast/iran-rebuilding-
| ba...
|
| > European intelligence sources say several shipments of
| sodium perchlorate, the main precursor in the production of
| the solid propellant that powers Iran's mid-range
| conventional missiles, have arrived from China to the Iranian
| port of Bandar Abbas
| therobots927 wrote:
| You're right. IRAN is the security threat in the area. Not the
| one committing a genocide and bombing Lebanon and Qatar (a US
| ally nonetheless) in addition to a continued illegal expansion
| in the West Bank.
| FridayoLeary wrote:
| Yes.
|
| Iran inflicted hezbolla on Lebanon, Assad on syria,
| persecutes their own ethnic minorities and has attacked saudi
| arabia, qatar and Israel. If they haven't outright stolen
| land that's only because they are 70 times the size of
| Israel.
|
| All that off the top of my head.
| mamonster wrote:
| For those getting excited about regime change:
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_protests
|
| Not to be insensitive to the Iranian people, but it's like France
| in a lot of ways, they riot/protest so much that the information
| content of any given riot/protest movement is minimal.
| sapphicsnail wrote:
| Most protests don't lead to regime change.
| andrewinardeer wrote:
| Until they do.
| sapphicsnail wrote:
| I was responding to someone giving a list of protests. My
| point was that a bunch of failed protests doesn't prove
| that Iran is particularly resistant to regime change. I was
| actually trying to say that this current one should be
| taken more seriously.
| kylehotchkiss wrote:
| _nepal has entered the chat_
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