[HN Gopher] Netflix Open Content
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Netflix Open Content
Author : tosh
Score : 557 points
Date : 2025-12-30 10:11 UTC (12 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (opencontent.netflix.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (opencontent.netflix.com)
| carschno wrote:
| The last addition was made in 2020.
| HelloUsername wrote:
| (2022)?
|
| (Or earlier? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25801075)
| pwdisswordfishy wrote:
| <https://netflixtechblog.com/engineers-making-movies-aka-
| open...> (2018)
| _flux wrote:
| Funny how how all the links, including the ones to their own
| pages, are routed through google.com/url, e.g. the link "Assets
| Available to Download". Usually tracking isn't quite this
| visible.
| afandian wrote:
| It is very odd. I don't see a good reason, not even tracking.
| jmathai wrote:
| Aren't those just the URLs in google search results if you
| copy from the results page instead of clicking through to the
| destination?
| esrauch wrote:
| The reason for the intermediary is because the clickthrough
| sends the previous URL as a referer to the next server.
|
| The only real way to avoid leaking specific urls from the
| source page to the arbitrary other server is to have an
| intermediary redirect like this.
|
| All the big products put an intermediary for that reason,
| though many of them make it a user visible page of that
| says "you are leaving our product" versus Google mostly
| does it as an immediate redirect.
|
| The copy/paste behavior is mostly an unfortunate side
| effect and not a deliberate feature of it.
| afandian wrote:
| I don't understand. They are redirecting to their own S3
| bucket, so who would be the recipient of the leak?
|
| Also, isn't this what Referrer-Policy is for?
| https://developer.mozilla.org/en-
| US/docs/Web/HTTP/Reference/...
| giancarlostoro wrote:
| Quoting web standards, you are more optimistic than I am,
| unfortunately, nobody uses them consistently or
| accurately (look at PUT vs POST for create / update as a
| really good example of this - nobody agrees) its a shame
| too, there's a lot of richness to the web spec. Most
| people don't even use "HEAD" to ensure they aren't making
| wasteful REST calls if they already have the data.
| afandian wrote:
| I was replying to
|
| > All the big products put an intermediary for that
| reason
|
| Surely whoever maintains the big products can add headers
| if they want?
|
| And this is about people who care enough about not
| showing up in Referer headers to do something about it
| rather than people in general not understanding the full
| spec .
| giancarlostoro wrote:
| The other problem is if you're too big like Google, you
| cannot assume everyone will honor this, which is why they
| do these redirects.
| afandian wrote:
| Referrer-Policy is a response header, so in this case it
| would be Google sending it, and the browsers who would be
| honouring it. You have to hope that the browser makers
| get it correct... Unless I misunderstood?
| otterley wrote:
| Blogger predates the existence of this header by many
| years. Blogger, I believe, has also been in maintenance
| mode for many years.
| Kye wrote:
| It sees periodic major updates to keep it in line with
| standards. That's not much more than maintenance mode,
| but it's more than just keeping the servers running. It
| seems like someone at Google pays attention to it and
| keeps it from falling behind, but I suspect the same was
| true of Google Reader until it wasn't.
| reddalo wrote:
| >someone at Google pays attention to it and keeps it from
| falling behind
|
| I feel like it's the same for Google My Maps. They even
| discontinued the Android app, so you can only use it on
| the web. It totally feels like there's a single guy
| keeping the whole system up.
| lionkor wrote:
| Not if you use the ClearURLs addon ;)
| reddalo wrote:
| It's because their blog is hosted on blogger.com (yeah, weird
| decision), which is owned by Google and does that by default.
| XCSme wrote:
| I also have a blogger.com blog.
|
| Why? Because I had it for 20+ years, and I still didn't find
| an easy way to automatically migrate it to WordPress.
| wijwp wrote:
| You're also presumably not a $400m+ company, which makes it
| more intestesting.
| XCSme wrote:
| My point was that it's not trivial to migrate away from
| blogger.
| yunnpp wrote:
| I assure you no amount of capital trivializes the
| endeavour of migrating to/from Wordpress.
|
| GP speaks wisdom.
| jonny_eh wrote:
| Clearly engineers at Netflix have more important work to
| do.
| cfn wrote:
| And when I click them I get a page with "Did you mean
| netflix.com? The site you just tried to visit looks fake.
| Attackers sometimes mimic sites by making small, hard-to-see
| changes to the URL." which then sends me to the Netfcix home
| page. Chrome on MacOS.
| giancarlostoro wrote:
| ...how is that even possible?
| bstsb wrote:
| it's because their s3 bucket is called
| "download.opencontent.netflix.com.s3.amazonaws.com". the
| subdomain makes chrome think it's pretending to be
| "netflix.com"
| IggleSniggle wrote:
| But they said it sends them to Netfcix? That seems
| incorrect
| philsnow wrote:
| The ios gmail app does the same thing, but why? I would assume
| the app could just transparently relay the click through its
| already-open grpc channel to google's servers, and it would be
| faster for them and (more importantly) for me.
| cooper_ganglia wrote:
| Cool! I'm looking forward to going through some of these, looks
| very interesting!
| FunnyLookinHat wrote:
| Anyone else surprised that the download links are plain HTTP
| without SSL? I know it's a page that in the past I would have
| typically not worried about securing - but nowadays it's SSL
| everything or else your browser yells at you.
| mrtksn wrote:
| The page look like zero effort given anyway, like one of the
| free templates you can find.
| ronbenton wrote:
| Yeah, this is bad. The page almost seems like someone's pet
| project that didn't have any explicit funding and they got
| bored or left Netflix in 2020. I'm not sure how that would
| explain the lack of SSL cert except for just general lack of
| thoroughness.
| reddalo wrote:
| > The page almost seems like someone's pet project that
| didn't have any explicit funding
|
| It probably is, given that it's just a static page hosted on
| blogger.com
| gregoryl wrote:
| From the names mentioned in the most recent blog post, they
| left late 2022.
| robingchan wrote:
| this is hosted on s3 which doesn't support HTTPS, that said -
| if they used cloudfront in front of this bucket, they could
| save $$$ and have a SSL
| 8organicbits wrote:
| S3 absolutely supports HTTPS. I think they set their bucket
| policy to forbid HTTPS. The whole thing is odd.
|
| https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/latest/userguide/exampl.
| ..
| robingchan wrote:
| so, isn't this using the s3 static website hosting feature
| - (im assuming due to the dir listing) which i dont believe
| does support https
| uyzstvqs wrote:
| I'm surprised they didn't use BitTorrent, with these HTTP links
| as web seeds. That'd make the most sense.
| alex_duf wrote:
| Politically it would be an interesting choice for Netflix to
| encourage people to use their BitTorrent clients..
|
| But technically, you're right.
| abustamam wrote:
| I didn't even know Netflix had a bit torrent client!
| maxmcd wrote:
| Quite surprising. It does seem like you can get an https
| download with aws s3 cp --no-sign-request
| s3://download.opencontent.netflix.com/sparks/creative-commons-
| attribution-4-intl-public-license.txt .
|
| Which is hitting the bucket path route at:
| https://s3.amazonaws.com/download.opencontent.netflix.com/sp...
|
| "aws s3 ls" similarly requests:
| https://s3.amazonaws.com/download.opencontent.netflix.com?li...
| jcattle wrote:
| I was curious about this recently. I was wondering about open
| files of well known artists.
|
| Unlike netflix/YouTube its not immediately clear to me which
| Organisation would spearhead something like this out of their own
| interesting. Closest I know of is the MuseGroup, which are doing
| this "growing of the pie" with open source music creation
| Software.
|
| Anyone know of something else?
| niceboy2 wrote:
| I love it just because squid game.
| andrewstuart wrote:
| There's basically zero innovation in online video.
|
| Such a pity startups can't innovate on the content stores of the
| big companies.
| philipallstar wrote:
| > There's basically zero innovation in online video.
|
| AV2 is coming out this year.
|
| > Such a pity startups can't innovate on the content stores of
| the big companies.
|
| What do you mean?
| afavour wrote:
| Can't speak for OP but personally I'm thinking of things like
| the ability to actually add new features. Like what Netflix
| did with the Bandersnatch episode of Black Mirror years ago.
| Online video is extremely locked down when compared to the
| web.
| olyjohn wrote:
| Probably because there are over 9000 different TVs with
| their own proprietary apps on each one. So the easiest
| thing to do is just go with the lowest common denominator
| which is just giving you a menu to play a simple video.
| afavour wrote:
| For sure. But something like Bandersnatch shows that it
| _is_ technically possible. Not for all devices of course.
| But there could be some kind of open standard companies
| implement and startups innovate on. But no one with power
| has an interest in doing that.
| walterbell wrote:
| 20 years ago, it was possible to seamlessly merge video clips
| from multiple streaming RealPlayer servers into a single
| composite video stream, using a static XML text file (SMIL)
| distributed via HTTP, with optional HTML annotation and
| composition.
|
| This is technically possible today but blocked by DRM and
| closed apps/players. Innovation would be unlocked if 3rd
| party apps could create custom viewing experiences based on
| licensed and purchased content files downloaded locally, e.g.
| in your local Apple media library. The closed apps could then
| sherlock/upstream UX improvements that prove broadly useful.
| phantomathkg wrote:
| It is not blocked by DRM but different codec. Even if you
| have two MP4 files, but if they were encoded differently
| ffmpeg will still need to do some computation to join them.
| walterbell wrote:
| Gapless playback with MSE would require identical
| encoding, which is likely more prevalent in the Apple
| catalog than the wild west of Youtube. Client-side
| transcode would require DRM cooperation.
|
| For two video streams with different encodings, swapping
| between two media players + prefetch can give a close
| approximation of a continuous video stream.
| ksec wrote:
| >AV2 is coming out this year.
|
| Which has less than 48 hours to go.
| gibsonsmog wrote:
| It's actually a regression overall compared to physical media
| like DVDs and Blurays. No director commentaries, no behind the
| scenes, no silly menu games, etc. Streaming would theoretically
| allow for tons of this type of content to be made and connected
| to a film at any time but instead we have this stagnant
| recreation of cable TV. C'est la vie
| michaelbuckbee wrote:
| The lack of director commentaries and behind the scenes
| content on streaming has always baffled me as the rights to
| that must be much cheaper to acquire and would result in more
| minutes of streaming watched for less licensing money.
| sbarre wrote:
| It's telling that VFX subcontractors are putting out their
| own BTS content on YouTube now as promotional material,
| since the primary production companies for shows and films
| (with a few exceptions) have completely stopped doing this.
|
| I miss director commentary, I loved re-watching movies with
| that audio track.
|
| Is there just too much content now? Or has streaming become
| such a "content mill" that the creators aren't inspired
| enough about their own work to sit down and talk about it
| after it's complete?
| lotsofpulp wrote:
| > Is there just too much content now?
|
| I would guess this is the reason. Before there was
| unlimited content or ways to entertain yourself on a
| screen, having additional content on a disc would have
| been a marketing point to make people feel like they're
| getting more for their money.
|
| But now, I doubt even 1 in 1,000 people would respond to
| that, since there is always something else that can be
| instantly switched to watching or playing, so why go
| through the effort?
| wincy wrote:
| We've started watching Pluribus on Apple TV and it seems
| like when they're making the show Apple contractually
| obligates them to make a podcast about each episode. Some
| of them are very interesting (like costume design) and some
| are less so.
|
| It was funny how the sound engineers remoted in for the
| podcast and had extremely low quality mics, despite it
| being a show with fantastic sound (really it's an excellent
| show in general, just really good).
| filoleg wrote:
| I noticed the same with Severance (also Apple TV). After
| every episode, there is a short director commentary/crew
| interviews about random episode specifics or more higher
| level thoughts.
|
| I liked it quite a bit.
| hamdingers wrote:
| DVD extras existed as an incentive for users to re-buy
| films they already had on VHS.
|
| No such incentive is necessary with streaming, the format
| competes so well on convenience it doesn't have to invest
| in extra content.
| expedition32 wrote:
| DVDs were iirc 480p which would look absolutely terrible on a
| modern TV.
| k12sosse wrote:
| Remember those DVD releases that had plastic edges and
| cardboard fronts/backs? That's an era for you. They're
| always max 480p, sometimes even 480i, and often single
| layer, dual sided. Those came out when the Sony was still
| making Trinitron CRTs that could barely do 720p.
| treesknees wrote:
| Disney+ has quite a bit of this actually. I agree though that
| overall most streaming services don't offer this.
| weslleyskah wrote:
| Exactly. And this is why a whole dimension of collecting rare
| footages is quite dead now. This is why piracy through these
| great public trackers still matters.
|
| Rare movies and film documentaries from the 20th century
| still can be found on rutracker, for example. The Russians
| really did create a dedicated community of archivists, with
| the quality varying to a certain degree depending on the
| uploader's reputation, but they certainly created a notorious
| collection of movies, even the ones relatively unknown or
| sometimes censored to death on western countries.
| 332451b wrote:
| More recent content from Netflix is part of the ASWF Digital
| Production Example Library. https://dpel.aswf.io/
| everlier wrote:
| Is this for some sort of a formal compliance or being able to
| point out "we host things free of charge too?
| bwilliams18 wrote:
| It's all technical test footage used to test their media
| pipelines - presumably, they're sharing it to create industry
| standards, particularly for partner and open-source library
| implementations.
| ahartmetz wrote:
| It costs them little and what's in it for them is better codecs
| -> lower bandwidth expenses. Interests are aligned with the
| public, it's fine.
| Fiveplus wrote:
| This could be a huge deal for anyone working on video codecs or
| display tech. Finding legally clear, high-quality, uncompressed
| (or mezzanine) 4K HDR footage to test encoders against is
| surprisingly difficult. Most test footage you find online has
| already been stomped on by YouTube or Meta compression.
|
| Having the raw EXR sequences and the IMF packages for Sol Levante
| and Meridian means researchers can finally benchmark AV1 vs HEVC
| vs VVC using source material that actually has the dynamic range
| to show the differences. The fact that they included the Dolby
| vision metadata is the cherry on top.
| Uehreka wrote:
| Don't most camera manufacturers (like ARRI and BlackMagic) have
| test footage for their raw and/or log formats on their
| websites? Here's ARRI's (which includes ProRes in addition to
| their proprietary formats) https://www.arri.com/en/learn-
| help/learn-help-camera-system/...
| randall wrote:
| yeah but distributing them is probably not just "oh it's open
| source!"
| otterley wrote:
| These are motion pictures, not software. "Open source" is
| about the latter.
| clbn wrote:
| But... you'll see Netflix calls it "OPEN SOURCE CONTENT"
| if you click the link.
| otterley wrote:
| You are right! At least the link title got it right.
| nipponese wrote:
| I believe open source is about the law. Software is one
| way it can be applied.
| otterley wrote:
| IAAL (but this is not legal advice).
|
| Anyone can freely license a work to the public, and
| copyright holders were doing that long before modern
| computers were invented.
|
| "Open source" (other than, say, in the context of open
| water sources or intelligence or journalistic sources,
| where it was rarely used) as a descriptive term did not
| enter the common lexicon until 1998 and that was
| specifically to refer to software source code.
|
| https://opensource.com/article/18/2/coining-term-open-
| source...
| scott_w wrote:
| You're correct but words and phrases can evolve in their
| meaning over time. If the licensing terms for this are
| analogous to open source software licensing terms then
| calling it "open source media" is pretty reasonable.
| otterley wrote:
| I'm all for linguistic evolution as long as it decreases
| ambiguity and confusion, as opposed to exacerbating it.
| See: "literally."
| RobotToaster wrote:
| It's not popular, but even creative commons, the
| organisation that wrote the licence they are using,
| prefers the term "free cultural work"
| https://creativecommons.org/public-domain/freeworks/
| saghm wrote:
| They're "we won't sue you for using these" bytes. The
| terminology might be fuzzy but I feel like everyone in
| this thread understands the concept.
| jwr wrote:
| I used to work at a company developing an independent H.264
| decoder implementation. We would have _killed_ for this kind of
| source content, especially if the license allowed showing it at
| trade shows.
| game_the0ry wrote:
| With all that $500K talent, you would think they could make a
| better looking website.
| 0xbrayo wrote:
| 34gb for a 5min short film, crazy. High fidelity though
| ronsor wrote:
| Not that crazy. The cost of storing the film--even 2 hour
| features--is dwarfed by the rest of the production costs. You
| can afford a dedicated HDD when you're done.
| stavros wrote:
| Well, hopefully two.
| echelon wrote:
| This will at some point in the future invert.
|
| The cost to generate a future kind of film from some template
| (script, characters, art choices, etc in some kind of source
| file) won't be much more than the cost to store it.
|
| When this happens, perhaps we will cache the results but
| later dump them. Assuming storage costs don't drop faster and
| more significantly.
|
| Maybe 30 years?
|
| Edit: Lots of downvotes. I'm a filmmaker, I've made lots of
| photons-on-glass films. Most of us are experimenting with
| this tech and aren't thumbing our noses at it like people
| outside our industry. We don't really have a choice but to
| adapt, and I find it funny that casual observers on the
| outside are so morally opposed. It's actually an incredible
| tool for pitching and has utility for some SFX, compositing,
| and B-roll shots today. It's really going to help mid market
| and below, for films that don't have Disney budgets.
| hamdingers wrote:
| If this (tragic, dystopian, abominable) future comes to
| pass, why would we store movies at all?
|
| Just distribute the prompt and I'll generate my own movie
| on the fly, with my own tweaks of course.
| echelon wrote:
| It's funny to me that I work in film and have more hope
| and imagination over the use of this technology than
| people who (presumably) don't make films at all.
|
| As long as humans have dreams it won't be like that. The
| human spirit and desire to connect to others and tell
| stories doesn't just suddenly die.
|
| I think the very best lens to look at it is that all of
| the tens of thousands of kids that go through film school
| and never get to bring their VFX-heavy fantasy to life
| now suddenly have voice to match their ambition.
| CamperBob2 wrote:
| The downvotes are a _good_ sign. If AI didn 't promise
| massive artistic disruption -- the sort that threatens to
| put real creative power into the hands of outsiders -- no
| one would object.
|
| Look at the history of photography itself to see an
| example. "But... but... but my portrait-painting skills
| will be obsolete! Somebody do something. Waaah."
| jayers wrote:
| Your comment left me incredibly annoyed because I think
| you fully misunderstand the relationship of AI to art.
|
| > If AI didn't promise massive artistic disruption -- the
| sort that threatens to put real creative power into the
| hands of outsiders -- no one would object.
|
| Putting creative power into the hands of outsiders isn't
| important. In fact, creative power is currently in the
| hands of outsiders. You do not need a cinema studio to
| make a good film. There is nothing stopping most people
| from making a good feature length film and putting it up
| on YouTube except for their willpower, spirit, and
| creativity.
|
| The bottleneck on great art has never been technology but
| the creative vision of the individual. Increased AI
| presence in art will do nothing to alleviate that
| bottleneck.
|
| With that said, I am not bothered by the emergence of AI
| or its applications for any kind of art. I'm just a
| realist. It will enable equally enable both the great and
| the shitty, so in the end it is a wash.
| CamperBob2 wrote:
| Your comment left _me_ encouraged, just because there are
| so few people left around here who would say something
| like
|
| > _You do not need a cinema studio to make a good film.
| There is nothing stopping most people from making a good
| feature length film and putting it up on YouTube except
| for their willpower, spirit, and creativity._
|
| That being said, it's not true. Even Robert Rodriguez had
| to exercise a modicum of management skill and spend a
| non-trivial amount of money to get El Mariachi made. And
| even then, the available resources severely constrained
| what he could do with $7000 (about $20000 today).
|
| The next Rodriguez is probably already using half-baked,
| primitive tools like WAN 2.2 to blow us all away. We just
| don't know who he or she is yet.
|
| Something else that's not true is:
|
| _> It will equally enable both the great and the shitty,
| so in the end it is a wash._
|
| The great works add far more to our culture than the
| shitty works take away. Before AI, 90% of everything was
| crap. After AI, 99% of everything might be crap. But the
| remaining 1% is all that matters.
| deadbabe wrote:
| We could market books as movies by marketing them as long
| consistent prompts. Moviebooks.
| CamperBob2 wrote:
| The thing about the ludds is that as a rule, they don't
| understand that their perceived enemies are threatening to
| make their lives _better_.
|
| They can be safely ignored... at least here, and at least
| for now.
| array_key_first wrote:
| Yes I'm sure that when we start pumping out 10
| movies/minute the quality will only _increase_.
|
| As it currently stands, most things are crap. The speed
| is not the bottleneck.
| ysangkok wrote:
| How do I play back the EBU STL subtitles on Linux?
|
| http://download.opencontent.netflix.com.s3.amazonaws.com/ind...
| Ndeshpande wrote:
| Closed Caption Creator has a desktop version of Linux that can
| read EBU-STL files.
| caseyf7 wrote:
| I would like to see them give us an option to turn HDR off. In
| some situations it is just too bright and in others too dark.
| floydnoel wrote:
| Wouldn't that be handled on your TV and/or streaming box?
| That's how I control it, at least.
| caseyf7 wrote:
| Unfortunately iPads also don't allow you to turn off HDR
| swiftcoder wrote:
| For a long time putting them in low power mode killed HDR,
| but it seems they patched that bug (feature)
| ComputerGuru wrote:
| I'm still rocking a plasma tv which sidesteps the matter
| altogether :)
|
| Best tv tech to date, though OLED improvements in the past year
| mean we might see good panels hitting the market in a few
| years. The race to produce the brightest panels (and putting
| them on display for comparison and testing in brightly lit
| electronics stores in environments that couldn't be further
| from the actual viewing experience) resulted in a bunch of mass
| market crap.
| Lord-Jobo wrote:
| Newish QD oled finally hit that threshold of upgrading for
| me. Plasma definitely had a hell of a run though.
| timc3 wrote:
| Took down my Pioneer Kuro a couple of weeks ago. OLED is so
| good now.
|
| Agree with the in store crap and all the processing that's
| turned on for the TVs on display. But brightness is useful -
| can help combat ambient light, and HDR can look amazing.
| assimpleaspossi wrote:
| I wish there was a rubber ducky like thing to give you as a
| fellow plasma TV user.
| dom96 wrote:
| Slightly off-topic, but I notice Cosmos Laundromat (2016) is on
| that page. One of my favourite animated shorts ever. Something so
| unique about it. It would be nice to get a feature length version
| of it, but alas.
| zaptheimpaler wrote:
| Firefox refuses to open the download links with an error like:
|
| Blocked loading mixed active content
| "http://download.opencontent.netflix.com.s3.amazonaws.com/?de..."
|
| It seems to be something like blocking loading any HTTP request
| from an HTTPS page. Very annoying :(
| lrvick wrote:
| Do not give netflix -too- much credit for this. Netflix
| permanently closes distribution of most content they touch and
| kills the very physical media ownership options for content that
| they built their empire on.
|
| You will be hard pressed to find a blu-ray or dvd release of any
| netflix show in the US.
|
| As someone that enjoys having a physical offline media
| collection, and who does not want to support netflix, I am often
| forced to buy japanese copies or bootleg copies of netflix shows
| whereas I can buy legitimate US copies from virtually all other
| studios.
|
| Even hits like K-Pop demon hunters, netflix has forbidden
| physical purchase or ownership, so piracy is the only option for
| those who are not netflix customers or want to watch offline on a
| blu-ray player on an airplane.
| calt wrote:
| Why buy Japanese bootlegs when webrips are on popular torrent
| sites?
| lrvick wrote:
| I absolutely torrent as a way to discover new content, but I
| want favorites on a shelf on very long shelf life media where
| it does not require internet access and is never going to get
| altered or deleted as streaming services often do, or end up
| unavailable in the future with no seeders.
|
| There are piles of obscure things for which physical
| (sometimes bootleg) media exists but no seeders.
|
| For example the mexican hacking drama Control Z, I found 0
| complete rips even on private trackers, but I did find some
| nice blu ray bootlegs with cases and cover art.
|
| Even with blu-ray rips in hand, burning a disk myself and
| putting it into a nice recognizable case that fits in my blu
| ray wall cases is a pain in the ass and I would rather pay
| someone else for this service.
|
| Plus it makes it way easier to hand select shows to hand a
| kid to play in a portable media player, and avoids the need
| to give them unrestricted alone time with an internet capable
| device.
|
| I prefer official copies but if the studios do not allow them
| and thus do not want my money then bootlegs it is.
| reaperducer wrote:
| _I absolutely torrent as a way to discover new content, but
| I want favorites on a shelf on very long shelf life media
| where it does not require internet access and is never
| going to get altered or deleted as streaming services often
| do, or end up unavailable in the future with no seeders._
|
| You're on a site called Hacker News, and don't know how to
| burn a video file to DVD?
| swypych wrote:
| no Big Buck Bunny...
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