[HN Gopher] Toys with the highest play-time and lowest clean-up-...
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       Toys with the highest play-time and lowest clean-up-time
        
       Author : surprisetalk
       Score  : 238 points
       Date   : 2025-12-18 17:14 UTC (7 days ago)
        
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       | TheCleric wrote:
       | It would have been helpful if I had seen this BEFORE Christmas.
       | lol
        
         | cosmicgadget wrote:
         | On the bright side, you have 365 days advance notice!
        
       | bmacho wrote:
       | tl;dr:
       | 
       | - play-time and clean-up-time are 2 dimensions of toys, and you
       | can use these dimensions when you are considering to buy a toy
       | 
       | - author likes magnetic building toys (???)
       | 
       | - amazon ref links to buy those magnetic building toys
        
         | happytoexplain wrote:
         | I'm not following the implication/purpose of this post.
        
           | bmacho wrote:
           | I don't get it? Isn't this how "tl;dr" posts work?
           | 
           | I've read it, I've found it a waste of time, so I gave a
           | warning/summary so people coming after me know what to
           | expect?
           | 
           | Am I doing it wrong?
        
             | grim_io wrote:
             | What are you warning us about?
             | 
             | I found the post informative.
        
             | BeetleB wrote:
             | It was a short enough post that it didn't really warrant a
             | tl;dr.
             | 
             | Also, sadly these days many people assume such summaries
             | are written by an LLM, and HN users seem to really dislike
             | them.
        
       | dotancohen wrote:
       | It looks like the author examined every toy inspired by Lego,
       | other than Lego itself.
       | 
       | For me the big problem with Lego was not clean up time. For me
       | the big problem with Lego was stepping on them barefoot. How do
       | these other toys compare?
        
         | phantasmish wrote:
         | Big problem with modern LEGO for me is that so many modern sets
         | are almost all teensy-tiny pieces, so they look good on the box
         | --the adult-aimed ones have always been like this since they
         | started targeting that market, but now it's like 95% of all
         | their sets; also, they seem to hate exposed nubs, which is
         | silly if the set is for play.
         | 
         | Larger (like tall 6x2) bricks are uncommon outside buckets, and
         | a lot of larger pieces like dedicated wall-sections or big
         | vehicle nose-bits or car undercarriages are now rare.
         | 
         | The result is that my old sets are a mix of everything from
         | large contoured structural plates down to tiny pieces, but my
         | kids' bins of legos are like 98% tiny pieces. They use them
         | less than I did, I think because it's hard to sort through the
         | loose pieces when they're mostly very small, and with less
         | variety there aren't as many large pieces to use as jumping-off
         | points to start a build, and making, say, a house-height wall
         | or the front of a space ship is slower than when we had more
         | bricks that could kinda short-hand those pieces and let you
         | skip the middle, if you will, to focus on both the big-picture
         | and fine details. I doubt I'd have liked Lego so much if mine
         | had looked like theirs.
        
           | johanvts wrote:
           | Buy the 'classic' line, the big boxes are great value also.
        
             | phantasmish wrote:
             | Yeah, I've noticed the classic line showing up on shelves
             | and they seem a ton better, but I don't recall seeing them
             | several years ago when we were doing lots of Lego-buying.
             | Really limited selection and mostly big, expensive sets
             | too, not many mid-sized ones. But glad to see them
             | releasing sets that seem more focused on play than sitting
             | on a shelf.
        
           | thenoblesunfish wrote:
           | This article is aimed at younger kids, before normal Lego is
           | appropriate. I like Duplo more than magnatiles - slightly
           | harder to clean up I suppose, but that's because they hold
           | together better than magnatiles, which create quite fragile
           | structures.
        
           | jerkstate wrote:
           | Unfortunately, LEGO has decided that they want to make mostly
           | high-margin co-branded sets with Nintendo, Pokemon,
           | Minecraft, Star Wars, Monster Jam, F1, etc rather than cool
           | engineering sets with a lot of flexible pieces that can be
           | built into lots of different things. Luckily Chinese vendors
           | like Uncle Brick and Mould King have stepped in to offer huge
           | sets of Technics compatible parts, including simple motors
           | that LEGO simply does not make anymore, for not much money.
           | It's really too bad that Lego abandoned that market. I would
           | certainly pay a premium for the original stuff but a lot of
           | what I would like is just not available. Now, I still buy a
           | lot of the branded LEGO stuff, but the Chinese stuff has also
           | entered the rotation for the older kids who are interested in
           | engineering.
        
           | abanana wrote:
           | In the late 1990s, Lego went the other way with those big
           | single-purpose pieces, and were heavily criticised
           | (particularly by older Lego fans) for "juniorisation" - over-
           | simplifying sets so you just couldn't build anything
           | different with the pieces. You can't build buildings out of
           | big vehicle parts.
           | 
           | Sounds like it's gone too far the other way now and they're
           | still not managing to find a middle ground? But it does
           | depend partly on what age of kids we're talking about.
        
         | makeitdouble wrote:
         | We didn't see any of the toys in the article , but had a lot of
         | other magnetic and combinable toys. The big advantage over Lego
         | was building sizeable things with fewer blocks.
         | 
         | Duplo blocs come close, but they are pricey (hard to gift
         | second hand toys) and you can only stack them when the other
         | toys interlock in more interesting ways. For small kids,
         | building an articulating shape the size of their arm with 4 or
         | 5 blocs is really magical.
        
         | veryfancy wrote:
         | Our problem with modern lego is that the sets are so cool and
         | complex that the kids don't want to take them apart after
         | they're built.
         | 
         | The 11yo wants few new sets now because he doesn't know where
         | he would put them, and declines to swap out his assembled sets.
        
           | crowbahr wrote:
           | You can get brick sets that are just a bunch of bricks - look
           | up Creative Brick Box or Creative Vehicle Box
           | 
           | Feels just like Grandma's ole box o bricks
        
           | bigstrat2003 wrote:
           | That's something I've run into myself. I just recently
           | finished the Enterprise Lego set, and it was fun to build...
           | but I doubt if I will ever take it apart and rebuild it.
           | There were 30 bags in that set, and I don't much fancy the
           | prospect of trying to sift through all the pieces at once
           | rebuilding the thing.
        
             | dotancohen wrote:
             | Finish a set? Lego Enterprise? Don't want to build anything
             | else with it?
             | 
             | I see that the Lego I remember and the Lego of today are
             | two vastly different things.
        
           | zem wrote:
           | when I was a kid I wanted some of the specialised sets simply
           | because they had exciting new pieces like windshields, gears,
           | dish antennas, etc. I don't think I ever made the actual
           | thing the set was intended for, I just wanted to add new
           | pieces to my lego bin.
        
         | speedgoose wrote:
         | Skill issue. You should try to not step on Lego bricks.
        
           | dotancohen wrote:
           | Yes, and I've perfected that skill against sidewalk cracks,
           | ants, and bubble gum for quite some time.
        
         | sallveburrpi wrote:
         | You heard of Duplo? It's like Lego but big.
        
         | bombcar wrote:
         | Those Minecraft blocks or the cheap Chinese knockoffs are
         | sharper than a blade and a real pain.
        
       | phantasmish wrote:
       | Can confirm that Magnatiles, specifically, were maybe the best
       | value for the dollar we ever got out of toys for our kids. Idk if
       | the quality has held up but our kids abused the hell out of the
       | things and it took them years to finally break just a couple of
       | them (the largest ones are the most vulnerable). They have
       | incredible range, good for babies but still seeing use as a
       | supporting toy up to their tweens. Kinda pricey but if the
       | quality is still as good as it was years ago (can't say, the ~3
       | sets we bought over a couple years held up so well we never
       | bought any more) they're easily worth it.
       | 
       | We have tons of Lego too but these were far better play-value for
       | the dollar. Not even close. Can't say if the knockoff brands are
       | as good.
       | 
       | (Can't vouch for any of the rest of these but those giant
       | magnetic tiles look potentially like a much better investment
       | than dedicated e.g. kitchen playsets, way more versatile)
        
         | sokoloff wrote:
         | This was the first toy I expected to see on the list. Can agree
         | that, though they are somewhat expensive, our kids played with
         | them frequently for the better part of a decade and then we
         | passed them along to cousins who completed the decade of play
         | and then some.
         | 
         | We got some fabric bins to store them in, which made cleanup a
         | 2 minute affair if adults helped or 5 minutes if the kids did
         | it alone.
         | 
         | Highly recommend.
        
           | jakeydus wrote:
           | I never thought of playing make believe as just being the dm
           | for kids but that's really fun.
        
         | showerst wrote:
         | FWIW I bought some 2 years ago and the quality is still very
         | high.
        
         | germinalphrase wrote:
         | We have bought a bunch of them secondhand. They arrive already
         | scratched up, but who cares.
        
         | yread wrote:
         | I would be worried that they break, the magnets fall out and
         | the kids stick it in some orifice
        
           | dcre wrote:
           | The brand-name ones are surprisingly durable. Can't speak to
           | the cheaper knockoffs.
        
           | modeless wrote:
           | I think this is worth worrying about, especially with
           | knockoff magnatiles. The magnets are small enough to swallow.
           | If a child swallows two they could die, for the same reason
           | that "buckyball" magnet toys were banned: the magnets can
           | snap together with intestinal tissue in between and perforate
           | the intestinal wall.
        
         | sanj wrote:
         | Can I suggest putting a strand of Christmas lights inside the
         | completed structure? They get a little diffused and look really
         | cool.
         | 
         | For bonus points, get pics of your kids' faces lit by only that
         | light.
         | 
         | Boom: next year's card.
        
         | rsync wrote:
         | We just aged out of this as our youngest child is now 11, but I
         | can affirm that magnatiles are fantastic and fun - and that is
         | coming from someone who _lionizes_ legos and considers them the
         | ne plus ultra of toys for children.
         | 
         | That being said ...
         | 
         | We got a lot of mileage - many good years of use from male and
         | female children - out of "Snap Circuits":
         | 
         | https://elenco.com/
         | 
         | A very, very cool building ecosystem with easy to build and
         | understand recipes - we built a working FM radio, for instance.
         | Not at all fussy or fragile.
         | 
         | My children are not particularly "STEMy" but they all enjoyed
         | breaking out the "circuit kit".
        
           | Macha wrote:
           | I can confirm as someone that had these or a very similar kit
           | as a kid that they were enjoyable and the knowledge proved
           | useful when I started working with real circuits in high
           | school and college.
        
         | 7thaccount wrote:
         | Magnatiles are great for adults who want to play with their
         | kids too.
         | 
         | The most fun my kid had was playing make believe games with me.
         | Like I'd say "you're lost in a forest and you see a cabin up
         | ahead and a trail that goes past it. What do you do"? And we'd
         | go from there. Zero dollar cost and unlimited hours of fun
         | until they grow up enough and don't want to play anymore.
        
         | Aurornis wrote:
         | > Idk if the quality has held up
         | 
         | I can vouch for the quality of modern magnatiles
         | 
         | The problem now is that there are a zillion knock-offs sold
         | everywhere, both retail shops and online. We don't buy them,
         | but the kids get them as gifts. They all have something
         | different, from the magnet positioning to the outer dimensions,
         | presumably to try to dodge some patents. These become the weak
         | point in bigger builds or throw off the dimensions in ways that
         | add up and cause early collapse.
         | 
         | I've been quietly removing the gifted knock offs and replacing
         | them with real ones because it makes the experience less
         | frustrating.
         | 
         | We're starting to have the same problem with LEGO now
        
       | r0m4n0 wrote:
       | This year the family favorite everyone was fighting to play
       | including the adults was the new litebrite touch
       | https://amzn.to/3MROaJs
       | 
       | Really satisfying to click the buttons and see the super bright
       | lights as a young kid. The games like mirror were easy yet
       | technical which had us all competing for high scores. Definitely
       | well thought out
       | 
       | Everyone appreciated it didn't involve cleanup of any little
       | plastic pieces like the original litebright
        
         | derwiki wrote:
         | Also makes it usable for a smaller child! Great rec, thank you
        
       | tsoukase wrote:
       | For small(ish) kids there is a certain correlation between play-
       | and clean-up-time. If there was a toy which deviated, it would
       | become blockbuster and there are hardly any such. Electronic
       | screens are popular as nannies because of this.
       | 
       | Personally I choose all types in rotation. One toy of high
       | duration is Play-Doh but afterwards needs a cleaning machine.
        
         | avereveard wrote:
         | Electronics are popualar also because there's a higher
         | proportion of only child and parents have only so much time to
         | dedicate to child play
        
           | tsoukase wrote:
           | True, not only for single child but for many with different
           | sex, large age difference or simply careless parents.
        
       | mrob wrote:
       | The set of toys I spent the most time playing with was a big bag
       | of wooden blocks my grandfather gave me when I was very small.
       | They are well designed, with a good selection of different
       | shapes, e.g. it has cylinders and arches and thin planks as well
       | as cuboids. They got a lot of use because they're so flexible in
       | combining with other toys, e.g. you can build roads and garages
       | for toy cars, or obstacle courses for rolling marbles. The edges
       | and corners are rounded and the wood tough enough that clean-up
       | was just dropping them back into the bag.
       | 
       | I've since given them to a nephew and I'm happy to see he gets
       | just as much entertainment out of them as I did. Plain wooden
       | blocks can represent almost anything. There are no batteries or
       | moving parts to fail. Mine got a little bit of surface wear but
       | they still work just as well as they did when they were new and
       | small children don't care about perfect appearance. I wouldn't be
       | surprised if they end up getting passed down to another
       | generation and continue to provide the same entertainment. I
       | highly recommend this kind of simple toy for young children.
        
         | itishappy wrote:
         | 100% agree. Box of blocks cannot be beat. My sister and I used
         | the hell out of ours: we built towers, cantilevers, mazes, Rube
         | Goldberg devices, houses for rodents, vehicles, elaborate
         | locks, catapults, you name it. They're still in the same
         | condition as day 1, ready for our children.
         | 
         | Bonus: You can roll a lot more down those long rubber
         | racetracks than just cars.
         | 
         | Bonus 2: Why did these go away?
         | https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/chubs-baby-wipes-stac...
        
         | vunderba wrote:
         | Same. We had a kids' play table (low to the ground and
         | rectangular) that we'd prop up with a few blocks under one end
         | to give it a slight incline. We'd spend hours covering the
         | surface with blocks in different positions to simulate a
         | pinball table.
         | 
         | Then we'd take a large marble and use two long triangular
         | blocks as flippers to "play" on it.
         | 
         | Tilting was _NOT_ advised.
        
         | andyjohnson0 wrote:
         | > I highly recommend this kind of simple toy for young
         | children.
         | 
         | As a parent I very much agree. And for grown-up children too.
         | 
         | On my desk I have a small tin containing small wooden blocks
         | and planks, arches, etc. I get lots of play value from them -
         | when my thinking is blocked, or if I just want to fool around
         | and not think at all. I'm in my mid fifties.
         | 
         | And over at my climbing club's off-grid climbing hut we have a
         | big box of over-sized, home made jenga blocks. Pretty-much
         | everyone plays with them: not only jenga, but also just
         | building structures or giant domino runs or whatever.
         | 
         | We all need to play sometimes.
        
           | kleinishere wrote:
           | Encountered these miniature wood marble runs in Switzerland.
           | Still on my "wish list." Sounds like you may enjoy them, too.
           | 
           | https://cuboro.ch/en/
        
             | rawgabbit wrote:
             | Very cool. I live in the US though. How can I order it?
        
               | jjulius wrote:
               | Looks like their site links to a good number of US stores
               | that sell them, many mom/pop. While there may not be a
               | store close enough to you, perhaps there's one that would
               | ship to you.
        
               | fragmede wrote:
               | https://a.co/d/24vvgsO
        
             | gdhkgdhkvff wrote:
             | Sticking to the magnetile theme of the OP, my kids and I
             | have spent the most time and most occasions playing with
             | the mangetile marble run kits. It works so well.
        
           | yial wrote:
           | As an adult, I bought on impulse a set of wooden dominos
           | intended for domino runs. It included a few other props. It
           | was on clearance for almost nothing because the box was
           | damaged.
           | 
           | With friends and family on occasion (individuals ranging in
           | age from 27-70) , multiple hours have passed setting up and
           | playing with this domino set.
           | 
           | I really believe that play is vitally important at all ages.
        
         | MrBuddyCasino wrote:
         | Plus, wooden blocks look a lot nicer than plastic stuff. I try
         | to avoid plastic items because they inevitably ruin a room's
         | aesthetic.
        
         | gattr wrote:
         | I had such blocks as well. For a recent take on this, I can
         | recommend Kapla, typically come in a large (a couple 100s) box
         | of skinny rectangular cuboids. I had fun doing, ahem,
         | preliminary testing, before gifting them to my niece.
        
           | marcinignac wrote:
           | I got set for my son after noticing he loves stacking Jenga
           | blocks and generic Kapla gets 10x more usage than Lego.
           | 
           | Can it be that the moment Lego moved from mostly bricks to
           | custom single use shapes for every kit the joy of combining
           | them died? My kids build car, Dino, Harry Potter set once and
           | then gather dust. Bridges, castles, towers and roads from
           | Kapla get rebuild every day.
        
             | nuancebydefault wrote:
             | When I was young there were fewer types of shapes but a lot
             | of new sets contained a lot of such specialized shapes. I
             | rather played with the lego i found in the attic.
        
         | ssl-3 wrote:
         | Wooden blocks were great.
         | 
         | At one point way back then, my dad made something in the
         | workshop that improved them tremendously: Wooden boards.
         | 
         | These were small, thin, very flat boards of oak -- about 3/16"
         | thick and 3/4" wide. Their lengths varied in 2" increments, and
         | the length of each board was written on it.
         | 
         | With boards added in, the blocks got a lot more interesting.
         | Fastening was still limited to gravity, but things like
         | cantilevers started happening.
        
         | yial wrote:
         | I have a love of wooden blocks.
         | 
         | I've seen some sets that are blocks with random flat surfaces
         | but still balanced.
         | 
         | However, I notice that many antique block sets seem far
         | superior to newer sets.
         | 
         | (I'm sure someone must make an amazing new set, I see some
         | suggestions in the comments).
         | 
         | Having made some wooden block sets from scratch, what I am
         | always amazed about with a good set is balance / size of
         | pieces, coupled with variety and quantity. The balance being a
         | vitally important part that seems to be overlooked in "bad"
         | sets.
        
       | mjlee wrote:
       | Magna tiles are my favourite of my kid's toys.
       | 
       | Bonus adult points - how do they work? How is it the tiles always
       | stick to each other no matter the orientation? Easy once you
       | know, but it took me (and friends with physics degrees) a little
       | thinking to get.
        
         | mingus88 wrote:
         | Also, did you see the huge tiles? Wow! I had no idea but my
         | kids would love building forts and rooms
        
           | mjlee wrote:
           | I know! I definitely need those. For the kids, of course.
        
             | jstummbillig wrote:
             | Right
        
       | ivanjermakov wrote:
       | Question from a not-parent: why not teach kids to clean up for
       | themselves?
        
         | makeitdouble wrote:
         | You can teach a 4~5 yo kid to clean up. Below that it probably
         | comes down to personality/level of awareness, and it's probably
         | a lost cause for 2 year olds and below.
         | 
         | Then you'll want an adult to deal with the body fluids and
         | other nasty stuffs.
         | 
         | PS; what I mean by "teach a 4-5 yo kid" is really spending a
         | lot of time with them rehearsing cleaning and drilling it down.
         | It pays dividends, but you'll be spending months and months, if
         | not years, doing the cleaning with them at a slower pace than
         | if you did it just yourself.
        
         | cosmicgadget wrote:
         | Low cleanup time is even more important for kids doing it than
         | grownups.
        
       | Waterluvian wrote:
       | > The worst toy is one with many pieces that my kids dump on the
       | ground and then play with for only 2 minutes.
       | 
       | One of my favourite toys was Mouse Trap. I never once actually
       | played the game. Building it and setting it off once or twice was
       | plenty.
       | 
       | I agree with some of the sentiment of this blog but I also think
       | it's discarding a perfectly valid side to toys and play.
        
         | stouset wrote:
         | I think so many 90s kids had this same experience. The Rube
         | Goldberg trap was so much fun to build and play with, nobody
         | bothered to even try and learn the game itself!
        
         | vunderba wrote:
         | Trivial Pursuit was like this too. Our family would chill in
         | the den just randomly asking each other questions from the
         | cards. I'm not sure we _ever_ actually played it using the
         | board game part.
        
       | mvid wrote:
       | As an uncle, is there an opposite version of this list?
        
         | mft_ wrote:
         | If in doubt, buy a musical instrument.
         | 
         | Or paint. Or glitter.
        
           | paulryanrogers wrote:
           | Warning: once glitter enters your home it will never leave.
           | You may have to move.
        
             | doubled112 wrote:
             | Some glitter comes anyway. My wife figure skated. It's been
             | years, more than a decade, and several moves. Still find it
             | from time to time.
        
           | bhaak wrote:
           | Kinectic sand is the modern subtle version of glitter.
        
         | vunderba wrote:
         | Yes. It's starts and ends with Perfection.
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfection_(board_game)
        
         | rjsw wrote:
         | If you don't like your siblings, how about a drum kit?
        
           | petesergeant wrote:
           | that dispenses Thai energy drinks
        
         | makeitdouble wrote:
         | Pokemon cards.
         | 
         | Even kids who can't read yet will somewhat play with them
         | outside of the rules. Except they're fragile, easy to lose,
         | will bring fights and other troubles as they grow up, and cost
         | a ton more money if they really get hooked.
        
         | mcphage wrote:
         | Don't forget noisy. Have you considered an Otamatone?
        
           | pavel_lishin wrote:
           | The ideal "fuck you, parents" present must be noisy, and yet
           | must require no batteries. Drums & cymbals are a good choice,
           | as is a vuvuzela or an Aztec death whistle.
        
             | bdangubic wrote:
             | the absolute best fuck you present is no present at all,
             | there is _nothing_ parents like more than kids that have
             | nothing to do
        
               | tasuki wrote:
               | As a parent: no. We have way more toys than necessary,
               | and yet keep getting more from all sides. All the parents
               | I know have the same situation.
        
               | pavel_lishin wrote:
               | There are five stuffed tigers on the floor of our living
               | room right now, liberated from their packages.
               | 
               | There are 37 more in the child's bedroom.
        
               | bdangubic wrote:
               | I am 51 and have never (nor will ever) buy a toy for a
               | human - pets only
        
               | oblio wrote:
               | I'm confused. Are you bragging that you never gifted a
               | toy in 51 years?
        
               | bdangubic wrote:
               | aha, I am. and everyone should strive to be like me
        
               | oblio wrote:
               | I guess on what you define as a toy. Is a Lego Technics
               | set a toy? Is a model plane that requires assembly a toy?
               | Is a drone a toy?
               | 
               | Also... if you ever meet a family with a baby or a
               | toddler, I guess you'd gift them clothes?
        
               | pavel_lishin wrote:
               | Do you want to expand on that?
        
               | bdangubic wrote:
               | for kids, only money for college/investment fund. nothing
               | else, ever
        
             | bigstrat2003 wrote:
             | A vuvuzela is mean. I'm not even related to you (I think),
             | and I want to disown you for that suggestion.
        
         | jerkstate wrote:
         | Anything that makes noise; squeaky toys, fart sound generators,
         | lazer guns, etc
        
         | cosmicgadget wrote:
         | Any sort of goo or slime.
        
       | zamadatix wrote:
       | Am I not loading all of this article? It basically stops for me
       | after saying "magnet toys top the list" with 3 examples of such
       | (well, really 2) for me, with no real investigation into other
       | toys or exploration of why the variants like the Minecraft magnet
       | toy scored much worse in cleanup (I assume it's due to the piece
       | size?). Anything about toys other than magnet blocks?
       | 
       | Another type of toy I've seen fit this bill has been
       | wooden/plastic train tracks (the solid larger pieces type, not
       | flimsy model type, and simple sturdy trains to go on them). It
       | still has the element of customization and playing with what you
       | build but cleanup is "scoop the large pieces into a bucket" (and
       | stepping on them usually isn't painful!)
        
         | honeycrispy wrote:
         | They're a parent. They probably don't have enough time to write
         | a comprehensive article if this article isn't paying the bills.
        
           | zamadatix wrote:
           | The confusion was less on the author and more on the
           | submission reaching the top of the front page - it wouldn't
           | have been the first time the issue was my ad blocker or
           | something. Thanks for confirming!
        
             | derwiki wrote:
             | Parents looking for a quick break on Christmas morning
        
         | crowbahr wrote:
         | Minecraft: weak magnets
        
       | geerlingguy wrote:
       | For a younger kid, a ball is often a good option.
       | 
       | This Christmas, after putting aside the push car, some books, and
       | a few other little toys from the grandparents, my 1 year old has
       | spent the past 30 minutes chasing a large beach ball one of his
       | siblings brought up from the basement.
       | 
       | I can second the recommendation for magnet tiles, though;
       | everyone in the family seems to enjoy the satisfaction of them
       | clicking together, and finding new ways to build random stuff.
       | The toddler just makes stacks of magnet tiles, which is fine for
       | his development. The 8-12 year olds enjoy building relatively
       | complex structures. Then watching the 1 year old act like
       | Godzilla an destroy it.
        
         | thechao wrote:
         | Blocks is the top comment (for me); and yours is number two.
         | Timeless classic. Another one could be plasticine clay. These
         | toys afford play, they don't direct, restrict, or guide play.
         | Other good toys like this: box, stick, the woods, paper
         | (especially a big roll of butcher paper), and things to draw
         | with (I find a black, red, blue, yellow and green sufficient).
        
           | 7402 wrote:
           | I recently needed to make a mockup of something, so I got
           | some plasticine from Amazon, since I remembered playing with
           | the stuff when I was a kid. However what I received was quite
           | stiff and left an unpleasant oily smell on my hands that I
           | had to scrub off with a lot of effort. Is there a particular
           | brand of plasticine that you have had a good experience with?
        
             | oblio wrote:
             | Why not Playdoh?
        
         | kankerlijer wrote:
         | For all the toys my kids received until they hit 3+, they
         | probably got the most enjoyment out of cardboard boxes.
        
       | sallveburrpi wrote:
       | As a former child my favourites were Playmobile, Lego, Duplo,
       | wooden blocks and those little matchbox cars.
       | 
       | For cleaning we just dumped everything into a big box.
       | Repeatability is endless
        
         | tirant wrote:
         | I also loved Playmobil. But they were so much better in the
         | 80s, early 90s, when all the figures were exactly the same,
         | except by the colors, so it meant they were all flexible to be
         | dressed up as anything you wanted.
         | 
         | Nowadays each playmobil doll is extremely personalized which
         | removes the flexibility to dress them as anything and limits
         | the imagination and originality. Such a pity. No wonder
         | Playmobil almost went bankrupt recently.
        
       | jnwatson wrote:
       | The best toy my sister and I got is a now long-discontinued
       | product called Omagles. They were brightly colored tubes and
       | panels you connected with plastic clips. They were strong enough
       | to stand and climb on. They even had wheels we could make
       | vehicles out of.
       | 
       | They were so good I bought a used one for my own kid who had a
       | great time with them.
       | 
       | After some Googling, I see that the rights to Omagles were bought
       | and are now sold under the brand Tubelox.
        
         | evmar wrote:
         | Exact same for me! Just ten minutes ago my son opened his Xmas
         | present, his first box of TubeLox. My expectations and hopes
         | are high but he is currently distracted by the flashier
         | presents.
        
         | Cerium wrote:
         | There is also Quadro Toys. I have a couple of the large sets
         | and have built a series of houses, climbing toys, and now a
         | "castle" with a slide for my daughter.
        
       | jdalgetty wrote:
       | Magna tiles are easy to clean up in the they stick to each other
       | sense, but I still find them all over the house.
        
       | Tade0 wrote:
       | > Maybe I feel the satisfaction of clicking them together as I
       | clean them up. Cleaning becomes a little like playing.
       | 
       | My preschooler daughter got Magna Tiles for Christmas and she's
       | cleaning them up herself, which is a first for her.
       | 
       | I'm surprised the Minecraft blocks feel less strong - Magna Tiles
       | seem to be using standard AlNiCo magnets and I expected, given
       | the price, that the Minecraft ones would be using neodymium
       | magnets, but apparently they're not and this weakness comes from
       | magnets being only at the corners.
        
         | bombcar wrote:
         | The Minecraft blocks have some strength but not much so you can
         | easily take them apart. But they are very sharp. Way worse than
         | Lego to step on.
        
           | SV_BubbleTime wrote:
           | This should be a graded metric.
        
       | efnx wrote:
       | Hot take - Along these lines video games score incredibly well.
       | 
       | Arguably not a "toy", but it's interesting to think about.
        
       | breve wrote:
       | I tell my kids to imagine they have the toys they want.
       | 
       | It's good for their development and the clean-up-time can't be
       | beat.
        
         | aqme28 wrote:
         | That's what the magnatiles are for. The toy they really want is
         | a rocket ship, so instead we give them a cheap little tool to
         | imagine it with.
        
       | jerkstate wrote:
       | We have some magnet tiles that have tubes and ramps for building
       | marble mazes with - they are probably the most popular toy in the
       | house. The thing about magnet tiles is there are several brands
       | but they're incompatible so it's best to buy multiple sets from a
       | single brand.
        
       | cnees wrote:
       | I can't recommend enough ordering a $10 collapsible ball pen. My
       | son understood even at age 2 that some toys needed to be played
       | with in his play pen, and it means I can let him play with toys
       | with hundreds of pieces and then scoop them all up at once.
        
       | jstummbillig wrote:
       | I really wish people would declare ages when talking about kid
       | toys. Anywho, any banger toy recommendation for a 1yo?
        
         | bombcar wrote:
         | Literally something to bang, like a toy hammer.
         | 
         | Or take them to a library that has toys, see what they play
         | with, and then go buy that.
        
         | evan_ wrote:
         | These little wooden shaker eggs went over quite well with my
         | 18mo nephew:
         | 
         | https://www.amazon.com/HABA-Musical-Eggs-Acoustic-Germany/dp...
         | 
         | He's also enjoying the Mega Bloks someone got him though he's
         | mostly just sticking them together and throwing them.
        
       | NiloCK wrote:
       | Another overlooked characteristic of a toy, especially a toy that
       | takes up space, is "doneness".
       | 
       | Lots of free-play toys that my own kids use (4 and 7) can
       | unconditionally be defended as _still in use_. They haven 't been
       | touched in an hour, but an ask to put it away is met with "I'm
       | still playing with that". So: nothing gets put away until a
       | parent pulls authority and overrules the kid's declaration that
       | the game is still going. Understandably, the kids find this
       | unfair and sort of demeaning.
       | 
       | A board game is different in so far as it has an ending. The kids
       | never try to weasel out of putting Hungy Hungry Hippo or chess
       | pieces or whatever back into a box.
        
       | fwipsy wrote:
       | There were only two toys I never got tired of -- legos, and
       | computers. Both encourage open-ended creativity. (I had older
       | lego house sets which were quite flexible. Modern lego pieces
       | seem more specialized.) Unfortunately, so many pieces took
       | several minutes to clean up, so I would just leave them spread
       | out across my bedroom floor for months at a time. These days when
       | I want to play with legos I put a bedsheet down first.
       | 
       | Also, I read another article from the author and subscribed just
       | based on how concisely she expresses her ideas. She just gets her
       | point across, then quits. I love it.
        
       | mettamage wrote:
       | To me, game consoles were toys. Maybe they are a lot more now but
       | the SNES and N64 felt like toys. The pc felt like a toy too.
       | 
       | I am very likely to be a father in the future. I am happy I have
       | all my old consoles because it helps a bit with introducing kids
       | to technology without them having access to all of it.
       | 
       | Soccer outside was fun too, there was a field nearby our house.
        
         | SV_BubbleTime wrote:
         | Ah. So they are federated with minimal compatibility issues.
         | There may be a lesson here.
        
       | fidrelity wrote:
       | When I read the title the first thing that came to my mind were
       | Magna Tiles. Glad they made it on the list.
       | 
       | It's the only toy in the house that lasted the test of time from
       | she 4-8 (and counting). Also I love tidying up Magna tiles, even
       | that is fun!
       | 
       | My oldest kid got a small sample of Clixco and was surprisingly
       | entertained even with a limited set of possibilities they
       | offered. They're great fidget toys as well.
        
         | SV_BubbleTime wrote:
         | I annoy my wife by sorting magnet tiles away color type AND
         | color. I do it as fast as possible with mock sorting
         | algorithms. She shoves them back into the box.
        
       | metaketa wrote:
       | Tiptoi
        
       | galkk wrote:
       | Your mileage may vary...
       | 
       | As soon as I got first Minecraft block to my 5yo, the magnatiles
       | were almost forgotten. And she never played Minecraft in her
       | life, but saw the movie and some YouTube vids. The fact that the
       | tiles have an image and purpose is a huge benefit, because she
       | creates better stories with them.
       | 
       | But I got it only after i got kiddo to cleanup her toys from the
       | floor regularly.
        
       | gervwyk wrote:
       | I'm surprised no one mentions Knex. By far my childhood favorite,
       | and for me, far more creative opportunity when comparing to
       | something like lego.
        
       | chhxdjsj wrote:
       | Has anyone had experienced with the giant magnet tiles? This
       | article seems like suspicious affiliate marketing which places
       | are beloved product that everybody has beside one that looks kind
       | of similar.
        
         | SV_BubbleTime wrote:
         | First I'm seeing them, but that means very little. Every
         | preschool we used had the normal magnet tiles though so I'm
         | familiar with the concept.
         | 
         | Fair to question this. Most things are fake and... lame.
        
       | somat wrote:
       | I vote the cardboard box, especially if it is a large appliance
       | box, Unfortunately you can't really give someone a large
       | cardboard box, but oh boy are they fun.
        
         | rolisz wrote:
         | I can't convince my wife to let my kids keep the big cardboard
         | box, even though they love it!
        
       | konart wrote:
       | > I score my toys across 3 dimensions
       | 
       | What about kid's development? The whole point (okay, not while
       | but the biggest) of a game is learning something.
        
       | pverheggen wrote:
       | The toy with the most longevity from my childhood were those
       | cardboard bricks. Could be used for anything from forts, towers,
       | hamster mazes, throwable weapons...
       | 
       | Not the quickest toy to clean up, but still fun since it's a
       | building activity of its own, stacking them against a wall or
       | something.
        
       | xg15 wrote:
       | A phone would get perfect score in all of OP's metrics, so I feel
       | there is some stuff missing to identify really good toys.
        
       | mttch wrote:
       | After my daughter turned 4, the 'toy' with the most play time and
       | lowest clean up time was a good pad of blank paper and colouring
       | pencils. The bonus is that it takes up little room and is
       | therefore highly portable. Furthermore, if you forget it, you can
       | replace it easily and cheaply!
        
         | rolisz wrote:
         | Ehrm, I beg to differ. My 4 year old daughter has recently also
         | started loving to draw. But, she pretty much refuses to let go
         | of her masterpieces, at least we conviced her to store them in
         | a shoebox, so they're not spread all over the house. And the
         | pencils... Well, I've been picking up an awful lot of pencils
         | from all over the house.
         | 
         | So I'm not sure I agree with the "lowest clean up time", even
         | though I'm really glad she's picked this up as a "hobby".
        
       | stocksinsmocks wrote:
       | I feel like this list says a lot more about what the author wants
       | her kids to be interested in than a real survey of the whole toy
       | market. There are a few stuffed animals that get tons of love,
       | and the magnet blocks were a hit for a couple months but then
       | they got old. This is going to trigger a deluge of unsolicited
       | admonition, but the television and the Nintendo switch have by
       | far the highest entertainment value per dollar spent.
        
       | threethirtytwo wrote:
       | smartphone. but everyone here is psychologically against this
       | even though it's true.
        
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