[HN Gopher] Show HN: Jmail - Google Suite for Epstein files
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Show HN: Jmail - Google Suite for Epstein files
Hi everyone! My name's Luke and I made the original Jmail here
alongside Riley Walz. We had a ton of friends collaborate on
building out more of the app suite last night in lieue of DOJ's
"Epstein files" release. Please AMA!
Author : lukeigel
Score : 1358 points
Date : 2025-12-20 21:00 UTC (1 days ago)
(HTM) web link (www.jmail.world)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.jmail.world)
| dvrp wrote:
| See also:
|
| - JPhotos: https://www.jmail.world/photos
|
| - JDrive: https://www.jmail.world/drive
|
| - JAmazon: https://www.jmail.world/jamazon
| jtfrench wrote:
| No way. Next level.
| dvrp wrote:
| I participated on this project, but I'm not the main contributor.
| In fact, I'm working on running an ML model to get some nice
| gaussian splat visualizations of some of the relevant images
| based on the recent release by Apple's model: SHARP. It allows
| doing inference of a PLY point-cloud based on a single JPG image.
|
| Hopefully I can merge some UI for it soon, but I'm away from my
| main computer right now.
|
| EDIT: I'm going to text my friend Luke to comment and answer any
| questions about the project.
|
| EDIT2: I am also happy to expand on the technical details of the
| project once I get a stable internet connection.
| lukeigel wrote:
| Yes, thanks Diego! Really excited about this.
|
| I'm one of the co-creators of Jmail alongside Riley Walz. We
| launched a Gmail-like view of Epstein's inbox last month. It
| got millions of page views, tons of really amazing requests to
| collaborate on making more related data accessible, and even
| new Yahoo emails that no one else has allowed the public to
| see.
|
| Yesterday's DOJ drop resulted in this very spontaneous rag-tag
| team of friends coming to my place in SF and each making their
| own app in the "Jmail" Suite. Riley and I are pretty shocked by
| how versatile this parody style is for visualizing Epstein's 20
| year digital footprint.
|
| It's been a ton of fun and we're working hard to polish each
| view here.
| Retr0id wrote:
| What benefit do you get from the splat-ification? Surely any
| relevant details are visible in the original jpegs?
| fredrickd wrote:
| the J suite of products grows larger
| gnabgib wrote:
| Discussion (144 points, 29 days ago, 11 comments)
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46004118
| dvrp wrote:
| I saw, but the project has changed since then. There's now
| Google Photos, improvements to Drive, Jemini (LLM that can
| assist when understanding the files), and JFlights for flight
| tracking.
|
| I sent an email to the hn email with more details!
| lukeigel wrote:
| Last night we made a _ton_ of new apps and we added "the
| Epstein" files which DOJ dropped yesterday.
|
| Also since that post we worked with Drop Site News + DDoSecrets
| to post new Yahoo emails that no one has let the public see
| yet.
| dang wrote:
| Despite the upvotes, that one only spent 8 minutes on HN's
| frontpage, so I think we can treat this repost as a non-dupe.
| ffin wrote:
| Is data about how long links are on the front page available
| publicly anywhere?
| dang wrote:
| There are a number of third party sites that do this, such
| as hnrankings.info:
|
| https://hnrankings.info/46339600/
|
| https://hnrankings.info/46004118/
| aizk wrote:
| Shoot I wish I would've have known there was a collab, would've
| loved to participate in this.
| the_gipsy wrote:
| The back button doesn't work
| lukeigel wrote:
| In which app? Photos, email, etc? Tested across each.
| dvrp wrote:
| Also which platform? Mobile? I've noticed some burger menus
| failing on mobile.
| muzani wrote:
| I'm impressed. You guys cloned a whole suite of products in a
| short period of time that cost millions of dollars. Even the
| little bits of humor look costly.
|
| On the other hand, it's way more information than I expected. I
| can see why someone would hesitate to release them - there's a
| lot to sift through and it's likely even the government couldn't
| sift through all of them to make sure their friends weren't
| mentioned somewhere.
| lukeigel wrote:
| Thanks! And it's a lot of info, yeah. ~90% of _new data_ in
| yesterday 's drop was photographs, which they redacted for us.
|
| The House Oversight Committee's giant drop in November had tons
| of data we still didn't take advantage of even after doing the
| original Jmail, like flight logs.
|
| For the Yahoo release, which is still ongoing, the folks at
| Drop Site News (see https://www.jmail.world/about) are handling
| the manual redaction which has been very time consuming, even
| with tons of AI to help in the background.
| dvrp wrote:
| Would be nice to explain at some point how we did the
| structuring of the destructured data.
|
| For now we're focusing on fixing the bugs because we're
| already seeing an insane wave of traffic so most of us are
| focused on keeping the site alive.
| nsomaru wrote:
| Hey, I'd be interested in your thoughts on this, or the key
| ideas/research results you relied on:
| lukeigel wrote:
| Yes! We used our friends at Reducto (https://reducto.ai/)
| for all document extraction and parsing (one of the best
| companies I've ever referred to YC ;) )
|
| We did an initial parsing pass of all four DOJ document
| batches on Friday. This takes a raw PDF and returns
| chunks containing typed blocks--each with a type (Title,
| Text, Figure, etc.), bounding boxes, content, and
| confidence scores. For PDFs that were just scans of
| photographs (which was like 90% of new content in
| Friday's release), it gave in depth descriptions of
| those! You can type search terms like "door" at
| https://www.jmail.world/photos to see what I mean.
|
| For apps like Jmail and JFlights we use their structured
| extraction endpoint instead--you define a schema (e.g.
| {from, to, subject, date, body} for emails or
| {departure_airport, arrival_airport, passengers[], date}
| for flights) and it pulls those fields directly into
| JSON.
|
| The JFlights example served as the best ad for Reducto
| and how doc parsing technology can speed up _hours_ of
| journalistic investigations like this.
|
| See for yourself. Given this document
|
| https://www.jmail.world/drive/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_002031
|
| It inferred and enriched multiple flight cards on
| JFlights (https://www.jmail.world/flights). I was really
| shook when I first saw this.
| adit_a wrote:
| This might be our coolest case study yet. Thanks for the
| mention!
| defrost wrote:
| One interesting thread to pull is "Stuff released and then
| Yanked back" ...
|
| _Images removed from Epstein files less than a day after
| being posted_ -
| https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-12-21/images-removed-
| from-e...
|
| promises all the sleuthing excitement of chasing the
| significance of Donald in a Drawer.
| wahnfrieden wrote:
| Images were also planted to falsely suggest incriminating
| evidence.
| wahnfrieden wrote:
| I see people are not clued into this and incredulously
| downvote because the file release appears to be in good
| faith to them such that illegal evidence tampering is out
| of the question
|
| See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46341688
| zahlman wrote:
| The post you link to is deleted.
| bryanrasmussen wrote:
| while true, it would probably be useful to provide
| examples. The one that I am aware of seems to be a
| picture showing Clinton, Michael Jackson, and Diana Ross
| with "redacted" victims
|
| https://www.imdb.com/news/ni65628031/
|
| https://bsky.app/profile/meidastouch.com/post/3mag7myutmc
| 2d
|
| however it seems that this photo is actually taken from a
| 2003 Democratic fundraiser, and the redacted images of
| victims were of Diana Ross' son Evan, and Michael
| Jackson's kids, Paris and Prince Jackson. This may or may
| not be accurate either, since I have not been able to dig
| down into the photo and determine if it has any
| connections to a supposed 2003 fundraiser.
|
| But it seems more likely to be true than not that this
| was sloppily planted evidence that was especially
| insultingly fake.
|
| on edit: looking closer does not seem to be exact same
| photos, but instead two different photos taken at the
| same time and place, so in the 2003 Dem fundraising, but
| a different photo of that. So it could be that Epstein
| had it and DOJ thought hey, look at these pervs! Let's
| release!!
| Arn_Thor wrote:
| As you say, it's not the same photo. If the one in the
| dump was in Epstein's possession, the reason for the
| redactions are either that some drone in the DOJ just
| redacted all children out of habit, or that it was
| deliberately done in such a way as to frame Clinton. I
| can't decide which I find more credible.
| bryanrasmussen wrote:
| I think if it hadn't been those adults with the kids an
| alert staffer might have thought "whose kids are these,
| these aren't young teenage girls, I better double check"
| But Michael Jackson, kids, Clinton arms around him, Diana
| Ross with young male, they're thinking they walked into
| an armory filled with nothing but smoking guns!
| dontlaugh wrote:
| There's no need to frame Clinton, there is plenty of
| evidence he was friends with and spent a lot of time with
| Epstein.
|
| Similarly situation with Trump, for that matter.
| brookst wrote:
| It is perfectly possible, even common, to frame the
| guilty. It's easier than finding real evidence.
| dontlaugh wrote:
| Sure, but in this case there already is plenty of real
| evidence.
| gruez wrote:
| >the reason for the redactions are either that some drone
| in the DOJ just redacted all children out of habit, or
| that it was deliberately done in such a way as to frame
| Clinton
|
| They were supposed to redact all minors, not just
| "victims".
| pohl wrote:
| Is it possible that one is an input photo and the other
| is generative AI output?
| alex1138 wrote:
| I'm being snarky and this isn't such a serious comment and I
| don't really mean this for Gemini but can you imagine using
| something like Gemini ("Hi, please comb through this") and it
| just refuses on ethical grounds
| lukeigel wrote:
| We found that Codex indeed refuses but Claude + Gemini are
| willing to RAG it
| muzani wrote:
| Usually Claude is the prude. Personally I haven't even
| tried for fear what I'd find. I can stomach homicide and
| war pictures, but Epstein is too much.
| alex1138 wrote:
| I just have real institutional problems with Google, they
| have all the best tech minds but some things are just off
| limits to them being politically correct
|
| And no, not Epstein. It's a general statement; but it's
| disappointing that they're like this (and of course
| Gemini was famously the one that gave black Nazis and
| things like that)
| underlipton wrote:
| Google has never fixed their black people/gorilla issue.
| The foundational tech that all of their products run on
| going back a decade is fundamentally flawed (and outputs
| outputs that many would say align with racist ideologies,
| among others).
| lukeigel wrote:
| also, shoutout _the_ Jason Liu
| (https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=jxnlco) for
| discovering that one. His turbopuffer-based version of
| Jemini is coming soon!
| genghisjahn wrote:
| But, whoever's doing the redacting sees the original right?
| What prevents the redactor from saying, "here's what the
| document really said." Or "here's who's in the image, I saw
| it before I redacted it?"
| freedomben wrote:
| The idea of spending the rest of their life in prison is
| what stops them
| helterskelter wrote:
| Yeah but a few words from somebody like Ghislaine could
| completely fuck shit up for a lot of people.
|
| Of course, she'll have hanged herself shortly afterward
| while the security cameras were malfunctioning.
| mcintyre1994 wrote:
| I'd guess a first pass is done automatically? Eg if a page
| mentions eg Trump, just redact that whole
| page/paragraph/etc. So the people who have done the closer
| reading to redact further probably don't actually know the
| scale of what was already redacted. Just a guess though.
| chiefalchemist wrote:
| That's a good point. I would imagine they break it up into
| pieces - in a reCAPTCHA sorta way - and any given person
| sees a sentence or a piece of a sentence.
|
| An alternative would be to strip out all obvious known
| words and only leave unknowns (i.e., names) and then have
| those fragments reviewed (in a reCAPTCHA sorta way).
|
| Finally, for images, cover all faces and the one by one
| decide which should remain covered and which should not.
|
| LOTS of work but there are workflows to mitigate the
| ability for reviewers to connect more than they should.
| sigwinch wrote:
| Part of the law mandates that all redactions will be listed
| for Congress within 15 days.
| immibis wrote:
| People who they think will do this don't get to be
| redactors. It's all about power and relationships, not
| technology.
| exe34 wrote:
| Given how MTG went completely silent despite her high
| profile platform, I'm guessing the civil (or at this point,
| royal) servants don't want their families harmed.
| johnys wrote:
| Yeah, there's a ton of information.
| https://epsteinsecrets.com/network is another tool to pursue
| the data dumps.
| Alex3917 wrote:
| > You guys cloned a whole suite of products in a short period
| of time that cost millions of dollars.
|
| At the risk of stating the obvious, the functionality isn't
| actually cloned, only the UI. The actual code powering Gmail
| probably dates back to the late 80s or early 90s and has had
| several hundred thousands of hours of work put into it. This is
| just a webpage that looks kind of similar.
|
| I point this out only because I've seen people saying that
| software businesses don't have moats anymore because of this,
| which is taking away a completely false lesson.
| jonathanstrange wrote:
| Out of curiosity, would you explain what you mean by that?
| Google was founded in 1998 and writing a mail client isn't
| terribly complicated. Did they buy some code for Gmail from
| an older company? Is Gmail older than Google?
| randall wrote:
| it is not. gmail is 100% from paul bucheit.
| Alex3917 wrote:
| He wasn't sitting there writing binary code and
| implementing all 7 layers of the OSI stack by hand, he
| was was gluing together pre-existing components. And the
| pre-existing components he had access to include two
| major email startups acquired by Google in 2001 and 2003,
| which were founded in 1995 and 1997 respectively.
| (Although he does have at least two patents for features
| and algorithms he co-invented while making Gmail.)
| estebank wrote:
| If I invite you to a barbeque and tell you I made lunch,
| will you tell me off because I didn't raise and butcher
| the cow?
| toyg wrote:
| This is more like using a sauce that someone else made.
| wordpad wrote:
| A full featured mailed client is insanely complicated. If
| you think mail client is just smtp, you probably think word
| is just text with some styling and excel is just some cells
| and functions.
| appreciatorBus wrote:
| I'm sure, buried somewhere deep in Google systems, are
| vestiges of mail server code originally written in the
| 80s. But when people use the name Gmail, they are
| generally referring to the client facing web app, which
| does not have any such code.
| surajrmal wrote:
| If it exists, it's probably not at all related to Gmail
| or only used for testing. I don't think Google reuses a
| lot of third party code in its first party server
| software.
| HeWhoLurksLate wrote:
| https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/18-956_d18f.p
| df
|
| I mean it has happened in other Google products...
| dboreham wrote:
| Even "just smtp" isn't trivial.
| pshirshov wrote:
| It is, or was at least. At the age of 13, I've created
| one for Windows. It was relatively widely used at the
| time.
| esseph wrote:
| Gmail is not _just_ a mail client.
| ape4 wrote:
| The spam checker alone is an ton of work. It needs to
| handle millions of mails for millions of users a day.
| sgjohnson wrote:
| Nitpick: pretty sure both of those are in the billions.
|
| Mails could even be in the trillions.
| Alex3917 wrote:
| > Did they buy some code for Gmail from an older company?
|
| They bought both Deja and Neotonic.
| 113 wrote:
| I don't know if I'm just misremembering but it feels like
| over the last three years or so the technical knowledge on HN
| has gone down the toilet.
| sheepscreek wrote:
| Most *nix tools have their origins in the '70s-80s.
|
| Email as a technology is ancient by today's standards. SMTP
| protocol got established in 1982. Even sendmail dates as
| far back as the '70s.
| Alex3917 wrote:
| This is a pretty good talk on the history of email:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrGfahzt-4Q
| doctorpangloss wrote:
| https://archive.nytimes.com/opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com
| /20...
|
| Another great article
| deathslocus wrote:
| And the earlier technology of homing pigeons goes back
| even further
| inquirerGeneral wrote:
| It's Reddit type conversation often
| zahlman wrote:
| Could it instead be that less technically inclined people
| feel more empowered to hang out here?
| DrewADesign wrote:
| Maybe that and manipulating technical tools requires far
| less background knowledge than it did, meaning the
| definition of "technically inclined" has shifted, as it
| often does.
| g947o wrote:
| "less technically inclined" doesn't mean people can make
| whatever incorrect claims unchecked like on reddit, where
| you get banned because you post inconvenient facts in the
| wrong sub.
|
| And this is exactly why I stopped participating in
| discussions on reddit and never on LinkedIn. Discussions
| on HN are so much civil and respectful here
|
| P.S. if the top level comment was indeed posted by a
| "less technically inclined" person, I hope this is a
| humbling, positive educational experience, at least
| that's how I would take it
| bryanrasmussen wrote:
| I mean it is so obvious causing me to find the use of the
| phrase cloned so weird that I feel it needs to be said.
|
| The UI cloning doesn't feel exactly correct either there are
| things that are slightly off.
|
| But I just find the "cloned" wrong, because obviously you
| cannot send an email from this account, you cannot log in to
| the service as Jeffrey Epstein, you cannot delete emails,
| create alerts based on searches, do actions on selected
| emails (create new tag, move under that tag)
|
| there are so many functionalities that are not cloned because
| obviously they could not be cloned because they would make no
| sense for what this project is. So just the praise for
| cloning so quickly makes me sort of mad.
|
| You could theoretically make something like this that allowed
| log in so you got a personalized epstein mails, and then
| could do all that, and perhaps get more mails sent in as
| files get released, and perhaps create Google alerts on
| epstein in the news etc. that would come as mails and maybe
| the code could put news that came in, into the appropriate
| the tags etc.
|
| But until that time "cloned" is just very wrong.
| DonHopkins wrote:
| For the holidays, they should at least implement a
| Shockingly Distasteful Jeffrey Epstein Christmas Card Meme
| Generator.
| a-dub wrote:
| > The actual code powering Gmail probably dates back to the
| late 80s or early 90s and has had several hundred thousands
| of hours of work put into it.
|
| no. google did not exist until the late 90s.
|
| various forms of internet email sure did, but most popular
| mtas of the google era shared very little code with
| predecessors from the 80s and early 90s (maybe sendmail) and
| google almost certainly wrote their own from scratch.
|
| but your first point. that an archive browser that looks like
| gmail is not equivalent to a full tilt email service backend
| is valid.
| nntwozz wrote:
| Why stop there, I'm sure you can trace Gmail all the way back
| to the Roman aqueducts.
| AntiqueFig wrote:
| I mean technically if we didn't have Roman aqueducts, would
| we have Gmail today?
| bregma wrote:
| All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine,
| education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the
| fresh water system, public health, and GMail what have
| the Romans ever done for us?
| DonHopkins wrote:
| All right, but apart from Google Wave, Google Reader,
| Google+, Inbox, Stadia, Project Ara, Google Glass, Loon,
| Picasa, Orkut, Hangouts, Allo, Duo, Google Domains,
| Google Health, Google Notebook, iGoogle, Knol, Jaiku,
| Daydream VR, Google Play Music, Nexus, Fusion Tables,
| Bump, Revolv, Songza, QuickOffice, Meebo, Panoramio,
| Milk, Schemer, Sparrow, Poly, Tilt Brush, Tour Builder,
| URL Shortener, Latitude, Spaces, Google Hire, Google
| Bulletin, Shoelace, and Neighbourly, Android Things,
| Project Tango, Ara Module Marketplace, Google TV, Nexus
| Q, Google Play Newsstand, Google Play Movies & TV, Google
| Podcasts, Google Now, Google Now Launcher, Google
| Goggles, Gesture Search, MyTracks, Google Play Edition,
| Android Auto for Phone Screens, All Access, Google
| Currents, Google SMS Search, Google Cloud Messaging,
| Android Beam, Androidify, Field Trip, Google Currents,
| and Google Play Artist Hub, what has Google ever done for
| us?
| LightBug1 wrote:
| I'm a little out of the loop. Are any of those still
| active projects?
| DonHopkins wrote:
| Not a one. ;)
|
| https://killedbygoogle.com/
| ithkuil wrote:
| The Link Between a Horse's Arse and the Space Shuttle *
| Physics Forums https://share.google/UnmMwwQv9kyksKhkI
| ThePowerOfFuet wrote:
| Tracking-free link:
| https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/the-link-between-a-
| hor...
| freedomben wrote:
| I'm not a physicist, but after getting into the rotten
| fruit this fall, I would bet my friend's horse could
| _launch_ a space shuttle from her arse. Such a sweet
| mare, but she has no hesitation blasting Venetian
| atmosphere right into your face while you 're scraping
| the shit out of her feet. At least she has the decency to
| make eye contact while doing it
| Alex3917 wrote:
| I mean the I would really only include the code for things
| like:
|
| - Fetching email messages
|
| - Parsing email headers
|
| - Mime parsing
|
| - Converting the text of email bodies into UTF-8
|
| - Threading messages
|
| - Eliding reply text
|
| Given that the official story is that pb made the first
| version of Gmail in a day, does anyone actually believe
| that he wrote the code for _any_ of those things in a day?
| If you honestly believe that I have a bridge to sell you.
|
| Wait till you learn that the source code in Chrome also
| predates the existence of Google.
| DonHopkins wrote:
| At least to the Black Death.
| JKCalhoun wrote:
| "...there's a lot to sift through..."
|
| A job for an LLM...
| wayeq wrote:
| > - there's a lot to sift through and it's likely even the
| government couldn't sift through all of them to make sure their
| friends weren't mentioned somewhere.
|
| if only there were some kind of universal summary engine that
| never gets tired and is essentially free.
| tonyhart7 wrote:
| "whole suite of products in a short period of time that cost
| millions of dollars."
|
| but they just copy the "UI" not the whole product
| huntertwo wrote:
| > I can see why someone would hesitate to release them -
| there's a lot to sift through and it's likely even the
| government couldn't sift through all of them to make sure their
| friends weren't mentioned somewhere.
|
| Jared kushner, is that you?
| elif wrote:
| Thinking Gmail costs "millions to develop" sounds exactly
| like the kind of price unawareness that comes from that
| family.
|
| I would bet the Gmail team has single employee salaries in
| that range.
| stanfordkid wrote:
| To be fair, millions could be hundreds of millions.
| elif wrote:
| Sure. And you are inches tall.
| an0malous wrote:
| What do these million dollar salary employees at Gmail do?
| Den_VR wrote:
| Three things, not all of which any specific employee
| does: 1. Fix security issues 2. Create "features" in
| order to seem useful that the world was better without 3.
| Rest upon laurels of gmail from 15 years ago
| d4mi3n wrote:
| Make Google multiple millions by improving ad delivery
| and conversion within Gmail. Probably by also helping
| Google land big corporate or public contracts, but last I
| checked most of the money was made via ads in the free
| tier of GMail.
| dang wrote:
| Please don't be snarky or post shallow internet tropes. We're
| trying for something else here.
|
| You're welcome, of course, to make your substantive points
| thoughtfully.
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
| qoez wrote:
| Well there's only 2500 emails here. They definitely had time to
| sift through these to make sure friends weren't mentioned.
| parpfish wrote:
| Regardless, it seems like they used the Ctrl-a key to speed
| up redacting
| jdironman wrote:
| I read through 80% of them last night by myself. I mean, I
| didn't go to bed until 3am but spread across a handful of
| agents? yeah you could do it in an hour.
| Bender wrote:
| _there 's a lot to sift through_
|
| The total archive size is 300GB. AFAIK they have only released
| around 2GB. Curious what is in the rest of it assuming it does
| not get [redacted] out or deleted. I am also curious how they
| intend to release the rest of it in time to meet the
| requirements of the act. Discussion [1] _Epstein Files bill
| sponsor Ro Khanna and Hassan, no dogs being zapped_.
|
| [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT2u0Fp3hQg
| [video][1hr12m]
| amelius wrote:
| > I'm impressed. You guys cloned a whole suite of products in a
| short period of time that cost millions of dollars. Even the
| little bits of humor look costly.
|
| The cynic in me would assume that someone with a lot of money
| wants to hide some of the emails and the best way to do that
| (at this point) is to release them filtered with a great UI.
| brookst wrote:
| That's not cynicism, it's conspiracy theorism. That leads you
| to "the whole Epstein thing is a hoax designed to distract
| from what's _really_ going on".
| amelius wrote:
| No, because the hypothesis is relatively easily
| falsifiable. This does not hold for conspiracy theories.
| wizzwizz4 wrote:
| Would you like to do the work of falsifying it? (Since
| you made the claim, and posted it online, I'd argue you
| have some responsibility to do so.)
| jdironman wrote:
| The thing I got from reading the majority of these emails
| is Epstein / trump connection was not that strong later
| years. I feel JE humored trump to a degree and disliked him
| to an even larger degree. He may have initially had strong
| relations in the beginning but he was NOT pleased he was
| winning the presidency at all. He mentioned multiple times
| references to dirt on DT and even at one point there was
| the question did Trump set him up. Not to say JE did no
| wrong, cause the evidence is 100% there for that but it's
| super interesting having read the actual files to see the
| various media spins on all sides. If anything though it's
| led me to believe there are much stronger ties to Russia
| with DT than I thought before. (Palm Beach House, the
| casino, models coming from those areas etc).
| the_arun wrote:
| They also have "promotions" tab listing all promo content. I
| wonder is this real or mock data.
| sweca wrote:
| Jemini is such a nice touch
| andrewinardeer wrote:
| Dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46004118
| dvrp wrote:
| just link dupe, but not content dupe
|
| read rest of the thread with more context on why
| ok123456 wrote:
| https://www.jmail.world/thread/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_026632?email=...
|
| Nice using self-emails as a knowledge base.
| dvrp wrote:
| lol
| amarant wrote:
| How complete is the material? I've seen "experts" in Swedish news
| paper DN claim so much is censored it looks like a cover up. Has
| that been your impression too?
| medler wrote:
| Yes, it has been redacted far in excess of what the law allows,
| and the material is a tiny fraction of what the administration
| was required by law to release by this date
| wahnfrieden wrote:
| Images were also planted that were not part of the files.
| epistasis wrote:
| Planted by whom? That were not part of the files? That
| seems dubious at best. What is your source? It doesn't even
| make sense.
| dboreham wrote:
| Makes sense if you are a criminal.
| 9dev wrote:
| There is a picture of Bill Clinton with Michael Jackson
| and Diana Ross that was just publicly available before:
| https://www.threads.com/@meidastouch/post/DSfEKJslM1H
|
| It doesn't belong into the Epstein Files, and doesn't
| need to be censored either, but the way it is framed in
| the DoJ release implies guilt where there is none.
| _heimdall wrote:
| How can you be sure the image wasn't part of the files
| collected during investigation? What makes you so sure
| Epstein didn't have the file saved somewhere on a device,
| server, or account that was collected?
| 9dev wrote:
| I don't think I expressed a particular opinion here, I
| just stated where the suspicion comes from.
|
| That being said, I think we can demand a level of due
| diligence from public institutions that entails only
| censoring actual victims on actual pieces of evidence,
| instead of mindlessly placing black squares on the faces
| of news article pictures found on his computer. Nevermind
| that nobody can explain yet how this particular picture
| ended up in the grand jury files anyway.
| goatlover wrote:
| This is the same DOJ that released the edited Epstein
| jail video as "raw", with the attorney general claiming
| the missing minute was from how the video system reset
| for a new day, when they had the actual raw video with
| the missing minute.
| _heimdall wrote:
| Yes, though that was a different situation. If my wallet
| goes missing I'm not going to immediately blame a person
| while previously stole something with no other evidence.
| edm0nd wrote:
| Surely you can link me to the exact "planted" images you
| are talking about...
|
| who planted them?
| Zambyte wrote:
| https://bsky.app/profile/meidastouch.com/post/3mag7myutmc
| 2d
|
| Here's at least one notable image.
| Arn_Thor wrote:
| That's not the exact same image, though. It's a separate
| image, from the same time and place. The one released may
| have been in Epstein's possession and therefore part of
| the files. Either some DoJ drone just redacted all
| children and non-celebrities due to procedure, or it was
| deliberately done in such a way as to make Clinton and
| Jackson look suspicious. Whatever the reason, this was
| not a Getty stock image planted in the files.
| Zambyte wrote:
| You can see the erroneously redacted image here:
| https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8r38ne1x2mo
| Amezarak wrote:
| It wasn't erroneous. The DoJ said they were redacting the
| faces of all non-celebrity women and children under the
| presumption they could be victims.
| lukeigel wrote:
| We have three datasets in Jmail now:
|
| 1. DOJ (The White House's docs that they were required by law
| to drop yesterday plus many court documents, videos, and other
| docs from many news cycles this year)
|
| 2. HOUSE_OVERSIGHT (the House Oversight Committee's releases.
| giant November drop that led to the original Jmail, then some
| photo drops this month)
|
| 3. Yahoo emails (originally sourced by DDoSecrets, then
| provided to us, redacted and verified by Drop Site News)
|
| There is _so much_ material in HOUSE_OVERSIGHT that never
| appears in DOJ, and vice versa. And then the Yahoo drop reveals
| even more new material. It feels like three odd slices of a
| giant dataset that keeps getting released.
|
| re: people's complaints about yesterday's release having way
| too many redactions, I have no idea how much they over-
| redacted. I hear that they will release even more quite soon
| though.
| mikeyouse wrote:
| Ah I was going to ask about the Yahoo emails.. are those
| distinct from the cloned Gmail messages or are they in the
| same inbox on your site?
|
| Has anyone written a parser for the text messages? A
| messages-like UI to be able to read through all the texts
| would be super interesting too. The format DOJ released them
| in is impossible to follow.
| dvrp wrote:
| big motivation for the whole project is to help structure
| the mess that was released
| lukeigel wrote:
| Another person made an oddly beautiful ASCII ui for the
| text messages. All seem to be from HOUSE_OVERSIGHT (we have
| those plus DOJ, YAHOO. No dedicated text UI from us)
|
| https://michelcrypt4d4mus.github.io/epstein_text_messages/
|
| He also shouted us out last month which was very kind of
| him
| cobertos wrote:
| Why and how is the data from DDoSecrets redacted?
|
| Do you have a page about each dataset you're sourcing and the
| background on them like your provide here?
|
| The "EFTA00000468" saga has me distrusting the authenticity
| of most of these datasets.
| lukeigel wrote:
| Re: the DOJ emails prefixed with "EFTA", I have no idea how
| over-redacted they are. They definitely seem dubious
| though.
|
| Re: the DDoSecrets emails though (YAHOO dataset), I have
| more to share.
|
| Drop Site News agreed to give us access to the Yahoo
| dataset discovered by DDoSecrets, but on the condition that
| we help redact it. It's a completely unfiltered dataset.
| It's literally just .eml files for jeeprojects@yahoo.com.
| It includes many attached documents. There is no illegal
| imagery, but it has photos of Epstein's extended family
| (nephews, nieces, etc) and headshots of many models that
| Epstein's executive assistant would send to him. I was
| quite shocked that this thing existed.
|
| We built some internal redaction tools that the Drop Site
| team is now using to comb through all of this. We've
| released 5 batches of the Yahoo mail now, with the 1k+
| Amazon receipts being the most recent.
|
| A few thoughts on how we do redaction are here:
| https://www.jmail.world/about.
|
| Unlike the DOJ, we've tried to minimize the ambiguity about
| _what_ was redacted.
|
| For example: all redacted images are replaced with a
| Gemini-generated description of that photograph.
|
| Another example: we are aggressively redacting _email
| addresses and phone numbers_ of normal people to avoid
| spamming them. Perhaps others would leave it all in, but
| Riley and I don 't want to be responsible for these
| people's lives getting disrupted by this entire saga. For
| example, we redacted this guy's email but not his name: htt
| ps://www.jmail.world/thread/4accfb5f3ed84656e9762740081a4..
| .
|
| Riley and I were not expecting this type of scope when we
| first dropped Jmail. Jmail is an interesting side project
| for us, and this new dataset requires full-time attention.
| Thankfully we have help though. We're happy to take on this
| responsibility given how helpful, thoughtful and careful
| both the Drop Site and DDoSecrets team has been here.
| cobertos wrote:
| I appreciate the links and transparency. Answers a lot of
| my questions. Thanks
| jibal wrote:
| You don't have to lean on "experts" (or experts) or people at
| HN find these things out:
| https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-08-01/epstei...
| mkoubaa wrote:
| The most incriminating stuff isn't censored, it's been
| completely destroyed by now
| kevin_thibedeau wrote:
| Wonder how much that Clinton in a blue dress painting will go
| for.
| rynn wrote:
| Where did you get all the data? The justice.gov site didn't have
| a mass download option that I could find.
| slazien wrote:
| https://www.jmail.world/about
|
| "We compiled these Epstein estate emails from the House
| Oversight Committee release by converting the PDFs to
| structured text with an LLM"
|
| and:
|
| "Data Sources Gmail emails: House Oversight
| Committee Yahoo emails: DDoSecrets (brought to us by
| Drop Site News)
|
| Technology
|
| Document parsing and extraction powered by reducto"
| dvrp wrote:
| Yes, also many were PPM images (or encoded as such) in PDFs
| and then I used (cheap/light) multimodal LLMs to classify
| documents from photos. It was surprisingly cheap: <$1 for a
| few thousand PDFs / Images.
| sieep wrote:
| Keep up the good work boys this is great stuff and is actually a
| pretty intuitive way to view the files, ive been sharing it for
| weeks now.
| novoreorx wrote:
| .world domain is a perfectly fit for this project, love to see
| more power brokers' profile joining this Jmail world
| randall wrote:
| this is amazing
| umrashrf wrote:
| That's definitely more than 15 GB of free space given by Google!
| Great work!
| dvrp wrote:
| gaussian splats alone are >500GBs lol
|
| (lot of bad quality ones though)
| stocksinsmocks wrote:
| Epstein had a subscription to Intelligence Squared. I feel like
| his whole character has come into focus for me.
|
| I would have put the "release" part in scare quotes as anything
| important has been redacted.
| gosub100 wrote:
| He has tshirts and hats that say "mossad" on them
| vnchr wrote:
| He ordered Israeli Defense Force pants off of Amazon
| apparently: https://www.jmail.world/thread/a767cba6e082256743
| a1069708a4a...
|
| He also ordered like 9 pairs of Crocs. He really liked the
| fuzzy lined Crocs: https://www.jmail.world/search?q=Crocs
| stocksinsmocks wrote:
| You can't be at the top of your child selling and money
| laundering game if your feet hurt.
| tacker2000 wrote:
| Incredible! Great work!
|
| One suggestion: please add previous/next navigation on the
| images, so that one doesnt have to open an image, close, open
| again.
| mastermedo wrote:
| ditto for email. Usually I open one email on the phone and
| slide left-right or right-left to navigate between adjacent
| emails.
| lifestyleguru wrote:
| Everytime I watch these private jets and helicopters I wonder why
| flying economy class has to be so miserable in terms of
| horizontal, vertical, and leg space.
| InMice wrote:
| You added icons and functionality to go to the beginning or end
| of search/inbox - Something that gmail just has never budged on
| having and always annoyed me! One of the first things I noticed.
| I must not be alone on this lol
| lukeigel wrote:
| Thank you! The night before launching the original Jmail we had
| this hunch that jump-straight-to-end and "random page" would
| make the site work for people.
| anjel wrote:
| Way better than the DOJ UI but a pity the photo captions got
| stripped away
| dvrp wrote:
| what photo captions?
|
| are you talking about OpenGraph metadata or something else that
| we can fix?
| ned_roberts wrote:
| Search for "LSJ": Little Saint James, his island.
| tonymet wrote:
| Because of JDate it took a minute to realize JMail stood for
| Jeffrey
| userbinator wrote:
| You made me imagine an alternate universe where there is a
| Jeffrey programming language and the man is named Java Epstein.
| 20k wrote:
| Great project, thanks for building it
|
| >i want you to realize that that dog that hasn't barked is
| trump.. virignia spent hours at my house with him,, he has never
| once been mentioned. police chief. etc. im 75 % there
|
| Hooo boy
| gosub100 wrote:
| Lots of Bill Gates involvement, and Sergey Brin.
| dabluecaboose wrote:
| Hey OP, just FYI "in lieu of" means "instead of".
|
| You probably meant to use "in light of"
| OJFord wrote:
| In the absence of
| B1FF_PSUVM wrote:
| The flight log data + visualizer is interesting. Apparently not
| into crossing the equator ...
|
| P.S. feel like a private eye perusing the Amazon purchases.
| Nabokov and Nietzsche, oh my.
| dash2 wrote:
| Even just setting aside the criminal/salacious side... it is just
| so interesting to see the connections between the elite. Steve
| Bannon photographed chilling with Noam Chomsky, such a surprise.
| God, and Robert Trivers is in there too, eeh.
| unreal6 wrote:
| Bannon for a while was deeply ingrained in Hollywood. He still
| earns residuals on episodes of Seinfeld [0], and owns the film
| rights to Michael Lewis' Liars Poker (even supposedly writing a
| screenplay for it himself) [1].
|
| [0]
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon#Media_and_investi...
|
| [1] https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/movies/articles/steve-
| ba...
| sigwinch wrote:
| He was very close to Epstein. So far as I know, the only
| mention of Bannon at Turning Point USA was a call to release
| the 12-15 hours of taped media training he gave Epstein in
| 2019.
| el3ctron wrote:
| correct me please if i am missing something, but i read that
| Chomsky messages and looks like normal conversations, i mean,
| surely Epstein offered dark services for some guest, but not
| for all. Even that conversations looks very smart. Social media
| people moves in majority cases on morbid assumptions. Correct
| me please if i am missing something, but Chomsky is a great
| guy, an one of the greatest minds on earth.
| tnecio wrote:
| Well you might like Chomsky's ideas but can you say that you
| _really_ know him? If no, then how can you be so sure of his
| character? Even if he was not involved in any of Epstein 's
| illegal activities, a leftist individual secretly hanging out
| with billionaires on a secluded island is not a good look to
| say the least
| leonvoss wrote:
| > it is just so interesting to see the connections between the
| elite.
|
| Did you imagine rich and successful, high status people hang
| out with random wage workers they find in a bar somewhere in
| the midwest?
| dash2 wrote:
| I would be interested to hear HN views on Richard Hanania's take
| on Epstein: https://www.richardhanania.com/p/the-inverted-
| reality-of-eps....
| thasFqr12 wrote:
| Michael Tracey, who influenced Hanania, has been on a wild
| crusade against all Epstein victims and has tried to discredit
| them.
|
| He also avoids all intelligence connections. He never asks why
| Epstein got the job at Bear Stearns after leaving as a teacher
| at an expensive private school where William Barr's father was
| the headmaster.
|
| He never publishes material like the officially released
| birthday book entry from Eliot Wolk, trader at Bear Stearns,
| who confirmed that Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine's father, had an
| account at Bear Stearns and who teased Epstein about knowing
| teenage Ghislaine.
|
| So it is now _officially_ confirmed that Epstein knew Robert
| and Ghislaine much earlier than previously known. And that he
| knew Robert in the Iran Contra years where Robert was dealing
| with Adnan Khashoggi.
|
| Tracey and Hanania are doing extremely poor journalistic work
| here by just focusing on the subset of Epstein victims that
| were over 18 and took money for the services.
|
| Not reporting at all on the intelligence connections seems
| suspect as well.
| linhns wrote:
| Tracey seems to me to be a dishonest broker that is paid to
| promote anti-interventionist and related agenda
| kg wrote:
| "Especially since the MeToo era began, we're too credulous
| about these things. So we have globs of money going to Epstein
| accusers and their lawyers, while nothing has ever been proved
| by the standards of the criminal justice system."
|
| Feels like someone with an axe to grind over MeToo turning
| Jeffrey Epstein of all people (???) into a martyr figure for
| their pet issue. I don't know why someone would feel compelled
| to defend him when he's not even alive to thank you for it. The
| idea that vast amounts of evidence and accusations exist yet
| nothing bad happened whatsoever is so wildly implausible that I
| can't grasp the mindset that would lead to openly publishing
| this perspective on Epstein. We found out from the most recent
| disclosures that people reported Epstein's inappropriate
| behavior to the FBI as early as _1996_ and it wasn 't
| investigated. One need only look at the amount of detail on his
| Wikipedia page (
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#First_criminal...
| ) to get a sense of why accusations against him are at least
| treated as credible.
|
| I totally get _not finding this issue interesting_ or not
| caring about what he did to his victims, though I can 't really
| empathize with that position, I understand it. But writing like
| Hanania's feels beyond the pale and unnecessary.
| zzrrt wrote:
| >> nothing has ever been proved by the standards of the
| criminal justice system
|
| This flabbergasted me at first. Admittedly I had to refresh
| my memory that he died in jail _awaiting_ trial, but he was
| still convicted once before that! The fact it was pre-MeToo
| should make it more damning, per his logic. I guess he's
| saying there were no convictions after he became infamous,
| but there's a caveat that he died awaiting trial, and that
| plus the prior conviction just makes this statement seem
| disingenuous or sloppy at best.
| runako wrote:
| > nothing has ever been proved by the standards of the
| criminal justice system
|
| One of my #1 things about reading people's writing is that
| while everybody is allowed to make mistakes, making this kind
| of easily-verifiable falsehood a central plank of an argument
| is discrediting. I honestly don't know why people keep
| reading him. There are better thinkers and writers who will
| also tell you that women and people of color are subhuman,
| he's not the only outlet for that point of view if that's
| what you're looking to read.
| runako wrote:
| Anyone who writes a newsletter and hosts a broadcast in defense
| of Epstein's child sex trafficking ring probably should be
| under some kind of enhanced scrutiny.
|
| Please keep in mind that the Epstein case was argued in open
| federal court, where he was found guilty and was sentenced.
| When he died, there were further criminal proceedings pending
| in two countries.
|
| Hanania's habit of seeing everything in the binary of "woke" vs
| "not woke" leads him to some incredibly questionable places, as
| evidenced here. It's "woke" to believe that a convicted child
| sex trafficker resumed his crimes when released from prison, so
| Hanania is ideologically forced to take the opposite view that
| the kerfuffle is mostly hysterics. I honestly don't know why
| people read him, the quality of thinking and analysis is simply
| not there. There are much better conservative writers out there
| who are not currently apologizing for child rapists.
| leonvoss wrote:
| Epstein was definitely guilty of prostituting, at least for
| himself, girls between 14 and 17 years old. I personally
| think young women of that age should know better than to be
| prostitutes for rich guys, and there's no evidence he ever
| coerced them to do anything. He lured them purely with money
| and promises of status. There is plenty of testimony of the
| girls refusing to touch him and they leave, often with money
| still in-hand and an offer to come back with more girls. They
| should know they are themselves "child sex traffickers" if
| they come back with their underaged friends, and they
| themselves should have been prosecuted along with Epstein and
| Maxwell.
| runako wrote:
| I am not a lawyer, but I am fairly confident that this is
| not how the laws currently work.
| leonvoss wrote:
| Teenage girls cannot currently be charged with illegal
| sex acts when they sleep with older men, but they can be
| charged with "child sex trafficking" when they offend
| against other teenage girls.
| chirau wrote:
| I clicked on attachments, then images. There are only 9 images in
| this whole release?
| dvrp wrote:
| weird -- there's thousands
|
| we should bugfix
|
| which url did you do that?
|
| can you help repro?
| tomtomtom777 wrote:
| Instead of attachment, click on the second tab on top of the
| screen.
| lukeigel wrote:
| Sorry about that. That Attachments tab shows you literal
| attachments found in the .eml files from the YAHOO dataset. We
| have released very few .emls that have attachments though.
| Expect more and more over time.
|
| Releasing YAHOO responsibly has been time consuming, and we're
| relying on Drop Site to tackle the redactions. See this post
| for context.
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46347272
| mrinfinite wrote:
| Its cool to see the mail. I now think he did die absolutely.. i
| had a suspicion he didnt.. but him and chomsky are fucking
| retarded.. feels like scrolling through twitter for horrible
| handles trying to sound smart and just lil bitches.. It makes me
| happier that my work is not very smart, but compared to these
| guys we arent that bad. I mean he was a geopolitical analyst. he
| may have been book smart in some sense cause he ordered liebniz
| at some pont.. but also just sounded like he was super high
| (probably wasnt)... very surprsing..
| SilentM68 wrote:
| Hmm, no mention of BTC origins :(
| gilfoyle_7 wrote:
| cool stuff boys
| joymonger wrote:
| This is incredible. How are you hosting all this? There's got to
| be considerable cost. Meanwhile, this is a genuinely great way to
| browse through all these files. Seriously impressive work.
| dvrp wrote:
| A lot of the files are hosted on Cloudflare so their $0 egress
| cost helps a lot. Especially given that so many of the files
| can be considered immutable assets, so we can configure
| aggressive caching.
|
| I know that Luke was working on stuff so as not to hit the
| database as much, but I was in the middle of a flight as that
| was happening so he'll have to come and provide more details.
| lukeigel wrote:
| Thank you!
|
| The original site was on Railway and written in Pug! It crashed
| after Riley's tweet first went viral, then Riley did the heroic
| work of caching it all with Cloudflare after waking up to the
| site being down. After millions of unique visitors we racked up
| about $10 in costs.
|
| This time we switched to Next.js 16 + Vercel, used Cloudflare
| R2 for asset hosting, and used Neon as the db. R2 has free
| egress, and Vercel + Next is cheap if cached correctly.
|
| A special someone at Vercel gave us some tips on caching this
| one earlier today. We started by just using unstable_cache all
| over the place, and now we're migrating to ISR + full static
| pre-generation of as many pages as we can via
| generateStaticParams.
| oneandonley1 wrote:
| serch for lolli or cp smh this guy was trash
| sans_souse wrote:
| Anyone reading thru these and filtering out the promotion spam
| should consider taking a look thru. All his Amazon orders, which
| mostly are uninteresting sure, but scattered in there are books
| and eBook purchases dealing with some relevant and interesting-
| in-context topics.
|
| Also, interesting that this one got by him (unopened, unread,
| filtered from inbox) and the timing of it being near his final
| arrest (coincidence, but still)
| https://www.jmail.world/eml/0b80588f551f3d097695f1c9507b6572
| dvrp wrote:
| We're also working to have a RAG system on Jemini so you can
| talk to the files. many of the files have been embedded into
| vectors thru turbopuffer.
| koakuma-chan wrote:
| RAG doesn't have to be vectors. You can also make a regular
| full text search and it's gonna be RAG.
| yakkomajuri wrote:
| Will do a shameless plug here of Skald:
| https://www.useskald.com/
|
| You'll get the whole RAG/context layer going in an hour. Can
| self-host too if you prefer.
|
| This is really impressive btw!
| johnisgood wrote:
| https://www.jmail.world/thread/94b742a9202b9782dcfef7d2aaed1...
| and this https://www.jmail.world/thread/3a2c95682ec730d0062d6d1
| c5bcf5.... Why did he order these, for who?
|
| He sure bought a lot of books. I found this that is not a book.
| alkyon wrote:
| Not surprisingly Lolita was one of them:
|
| https://www.jmail.world/search?q=lolita
| ricardo81 wrote:
| >for who
|
| Indeed. Though the high school uniform thing seems to be a
| fairly mainstream fetish, with hormones raging at that time
| in people's lives. But granted, if it's not for your partner
| or (of age) mistress...
| itsthecourier wrote:
| wow great findings
| konradb wrote:
| A little while ago Bloomberg published a list of his books. I
| created two lists on Goodreads containing these books, using
| Bloomberg as a source.
|
| 2007 -> 2017:
|
| https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/237057.Epstein_s_Library...
|
| 2018 -> 2019:
|
| https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/237060.Epstein_s_Library...
|
| You can only add 100 books in a Goodreads list so I had to
| create two. In the lists I linked back to the original
| Bloomberg article.
| markus_zhang wrote:
| Looks like he didn't order any CS books. Maybe someone should
| recommend some to him /s
| GuB-42 wrote:
| Most of the Amazon orders look mundane, mostly books, what is
| weird is the quantity. It looks like it is all impulse
| purchases, and I guess that most of these will end up in the
| trash once it arrives, if it isn't picked up by someone else
| first.
|
| I would have thought an quasi-billionaire like Epstein would
| have a personal concierge do the purchases for him. I certainly
| would if I was that rich. I would certainly not buy a shower
| head, I would show my concierge a picture of the shower I want
| and have him appoint a plumber so that I can have my shower the
| way I want it when I come back the next day. What's the point
| of being rich if that's to buy shower heads on Amazon?
| dmos62 wrote:
| His assistant may have used his account to place the order.
| randerson wrote:
| Plenty of wealthy people are bad at delegating. The part that
| amazed me is him buying the cheap unpronounceable Amazon
| brands for medical equipment, like "DEDAKJ Oxygen
| Concentrator 2-9L/min Adjustable Portable Oxygen Machine for
| Home and Travel Use". I would've thought a billionaire would
| be surrounded by the best name brands in everything.
|
| He also seemed bad at delegating his interior decorating to a
| professional, judging by the photos of his island.
| sans_souse wrote:
| The breathing apparatus makes me think Dennis Hopper as
| Frank in Blue Velvet. Chills.
| lukeigel wrote:
| Yes, shoutout to our friend Aidan Dunlap for making an entire
| interface to see those Amazon orders! It's at
| https://www.jmail.world/jamazon
|
| Jmail is the only place to see those Amazon order emails by the
| way! Those are from his Yahoo, which Bloomberg announced in
| September but Drop Site News actually let us release this
| month. It all came from https://ddosecrets.com/article/epstein-
| emails (redactions of the full dataset still taking place)
| sans_souse wrote:
| Awesome work guys. I am envious of anyone involved in the
| research (well besides those who are actually involved in the
| discovery process, those people's lives are not fun right
| now). If you're enlisting help please let me know! Keep up
| the good work.
| GaryBluto wrote:
| This is incredibly fascinating, not just because of who he was
| and the crimes he committed, but to see all this information on a
| specific person in one place is surreal.
| rc_kas wrote:
| cody rudland is a hero
| nervysnail wrote:
| Good heroance.
| romanleeb wrote:
| amazing
| wilgertvelinga wrote:
| Never trust anyone with a network setup like this...
| https://www.jmail.world/photos?photo=EFTA00002627-0
| KellyCriterion wrote:
| good catch! :-)
| grepfru_it wrote:
| I've seen that room before. I found it during an image search.
| Either this image you are sharing is not really epsteins or the
| image I found predated the catch of epsteins misdeeds. Or it's
| AI/manipulation all the way down. Not sure what to think
| anymore
| gruez wrote:
| >I've seen that room before. I found it during an image
| search.
|
| Source?
| roryirvine wrote:
| I mean, it links to the source: https://www.justice.gov/epste
| in/files/DataSet%201/EFTA000026...
|
| It looks pretty anonymous to me - a completely normal shoddy
| comms rack from the early-mid 2000s. The only real
| distinguishing feature is the fibre splice/breakout work
| taped to a bit of plywood at a funny angle, but even that's
| not so very out of the ordinary.
|
| Perhaps you're confusing it with any of a hundred thousand
| pictures of similar setups from that era?
| grepfru_it wrote:
| Nah fam. But considering what Epstein is guilty of I'm not
| going back to search for it. I'm sure some image search
| website can help you out
| lukeigel wrote:
| _Tons_ of this week 's DOJ drop is old photos. These photos
| of his Upper East Side mansion and his Island estate are well
| known
|
| We found that Volume 2 and Volume 4 had the most never-
| before-seen stuff.
|
| https://www.justice.gov/epstein/doj-disclosures/data-
| set-2-f... https://www.justice.gov/epstein/doj-
| disclosures/data-set-4-f...
|
| Also, this morning they quietly released volumes 5-7. Will
| have to find out how much of this is new.
| Psillisp wrote:
| Tinfoil! STAT!
| doublerabbit wrote:
| Probably goes with this six monitor setup.
|
| https://assets.getkino.com/photos/EFTA00000016-0
| blauditore wrote:
| The "Quora Digest" email killed me.
|
| Most of the mails read like fake ones from a video game. Maybe
| it's because most of them were written by an older generation who
| uses more classic letter-style writing.
| wiether wrote:
| As someone from the other side of the pond, I have to ask: what
| do people expect from all of this?
|
| It feels like this is a big smoke screen used by the current
| admin, first to be reelected, and now to distract people from
| what they are actually doing (like repeating they decreased drugs
| price by 600%, that they ended dozens of wars while dropping
| bombs daily all around the World...).
|
| It also looks like it allows everyone to peek in other's people
| lives, which feels quite disturbing. Sure, some of them were/are
| terrible people. But there's also the victims here. Furthermore,
| is it how justice should work? Share everything to the world, and
| let everyone make their own judgement based on what they see?
|
| Is there going to be some actual outcome? Both for the victims
| and for their offenders?
|
| Or is it just a show where everyone can see them as
| detective/judge?
|
| Just to add a bit more context: after years of trials, one of our
| former President finally went to jail for a few weeks. And now,
| they're invited by media all over the country so they can
| complain about how unfair it was, they published a book about it,
| sold in the tens of thousands, their son is the new TV's
| favorite...
|
| So I'm wondering: is it actual justice at work, or just a
| distraction while nothing change and nobody is actually held
| accountable?
| foundddit wrote:
| I think for the duration of this four year term, at the very
| least, nothing will happen. But there's a bit of hope (possibly
| cope) that if these people accept an election loss in 2028 and
| voters keep this anger going, people involved may be charged
| and imprisoned.
|
| History shows that it never happens in America and politicians
| always drop the "it's time for our nation to heal" line, but if
| the pendulum swings as far in the other direction as it did in
| the 2024 election, maybe things will be different. And the only
| hope of that happening is for people to stay pissed.
|
| One thing I will say is the outrage about this has lasted
| longer than I initially imagined. America has had a lot of
| "this controversy won't be forgotten!" stuff that nobody
| remembers 2 months later. In contrast, I feel like this has
| been steadily ramping up and maintaining some degree of inertia
| for 2 years. Will it burn out by 2028? Honestly, I wouldn't be
| surprised. It was washed out of the news by trans people
| playing sports and that was somehow the biggest issue in the
| world. 2028 will undoubtedly have some weird "problem" that we
| can't yet imagine.
| fifticon wrote:
| as history has proceeded these past 10 years, I am pretty
| confident american voters will have forgotten all about in
| 2028, assuming they still get to vote by then. Right now, I
| don't have faith in them to remember the purpose when they
| reach for the toilet paper roll,once they grab it :-/
| haritha-j wrote:
| "accept election loss" is a wild string of words, but such
| are th etimes we live in.
| noman-land wrote:
| There needs to be a RICO case on the entire criminal abuse
| network which operated as an open secret for over three
| decades.
|
| Andrew Windsor needs to be extradited to the US and face trial.
|
| We need a referendum about whether we want child rape to be a
| tool of US policy. I say no.
| wisty wrote:
| I want to see a tax audit.
|
| Epstein was running what he said was legal tax avoidance
| system for his clients.
|
| I'm not saying they were breaking any laws in it, but Epstein
| is a dodgy guy (also he used to be involved in IIRC a Ponzi
| scheme and was previously sacked from a big firm - red flags
| galore with this guy) and the scheme worked off asset prices
| and trusts.
|
| If a bunch of billionaires could manipulate asset prices
| (selling illiquid assets like mansions and artwork between
| each other and their trusts) I suspect they could really
| bring down their tax bills. This would be illegal (I think)
| but you'd need to untangle a large web of transactions to
| prove it.
| SideburnsOfDoom wrote:
| > I want to see a tax audit.
|
| Yes. IMHO, the parts that they really don't want to come
| out are the financial ties. It's the connections of money
| (and power and influence) that is being covered up, more
| then the child sex crimes that are now known.
| jacquesm wrote:
| > Andrew Windsor needs to be extradited to the US and face
| trial.
|
| Reciprocity is a thing...
| mcny wrote:
| Yes! I don't understand how any American can support this
| kind of hypocrisy. For those who didn't know
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Harry_Dunn
| leonvoss wrote:
| Epstein didn't rape any children, he had a harem of young
| women. Some of the women were under 18, but all of them were
| old enough to be held responsible for their part in the
| crime, that is, being prostitutes. Many even have admitted to
| comitting "child" sex trafficking by inviting girls from
| their high schools to be prostitutes.
| pjc50 wrote:
| It's interesting to see where the "too famous to prosecute"
| line lies. So far the highest profile casualty seems to have
| been Prince Andrew - as a result of the files, and NOT as a
| result of his actual court case with Virginia Giuffre, which he
| settled before her suicide.
|
| Maybe it's possible. Berlusconi was brought down by his habit
| of young women eventually hitting one under 18.
| Remdo wrote:
| When Berlusconi died, the current Italian government declared
| a national day of mourning broadcasted on national
| television. Never went to prison, convicted only 1 time for
| tax fraud, a lot of his quotes and videos are great source of
| memes that make the younger generations laugh (owning the
| Milan football helped him to be liked by younger people).
|
| Please American people don't do the same mistakes as we did.
| It's like watching a remake (or a parody) of the same horror
| movie.
| kitsune1 wrote:
| The victims themselves were asking for the files to be fully
| released so that their abusers are held accountable. This was a
| big "fuck you" to the victims when everything of significance
| was [REDACTED]
| Remdo wrote:
| The victims themselves want the files to be released. Also, we
| all know how terrible politicians are, but the whole of public
| opinion should be made aware of how low the bar is.
|
| Do you know Berlusconi, from the Italian government? He was the
| Italian version of Donald Trump, and he was involved in a lot
| of scandals at the time, including being involved with the
| mafia and, you guessed it, underage girls.
| earlyreturns wrote:
| Foreign governments running honeytrap operations on powerful
| perverts like bill clinton is common knowledge amongst anyone
| interested in knowing about such things, but some people think
| it is a super big secret that needs to be revealed to the
| masses. Thomas Massie for instance. I don't think it's
| antisemitism but I'm pretty sure it's not because of a sudden
| concern for teenage prostitution, which is a big ongoing
| problem that could be addressed by legislators crafting policy
| if they weren't so busy slinging mud at each other looking for
| Epstein photos with their political opponents.
| simgt wrote:
| > Just to add a bit more context: after years of trials, one of
| our former President finally went to jail for a few weeks. And
| now, they're invited by media all over the country so they can
| complain about how unfair it was, they published a book about
| it, sold in the tens of thousands, their son is the new TV's
| favorite...
|
| Haha I was wondering where this other side of the pond was.
| This leaves no doubt. Quelle indignite.
|
| For others: it's Sarkozy they are referring to, who was
| sentenced to 5 years of prison but spent only 20 days in it.
| He's free until his next trial. For having colluded with
| terrorists.
| 9dev wrote:
| Sarkozy is the whiniest bitch imaginable, and then he even
| has the gall to write a book about his prison experience.
|
| Someone wrote in Le Monde, "it's like a man writing a
| feminist essay because he emptied the dish washer once", and
| that sums it up pretty well.
| lm28469 wrote:
| Sarkozy is out because in France you're free until proven
| guilty, unless you represent a risk to society or have a high
| risk of fleeing, neither apply to him, hence he's free until
| the final verdict
| harvey9 wrote:
| The other poster said sarkozy was sentenced to 5 years. How
| was that not the result of having been found guilty? I
| understand there are more trials to follow but do not see
| why that would free him.
| lm28469 wrote:
| Because you can appeal a decision, and a verdict isn't
| final until every legal options have been pursued, appeal
| being one of them
|
| It's simple really, but if course it's not as outrageous
| and can't be used as rage bait
| _heimdall wrote:
| Wait, in France the sentencing is done before trial? Why
| would he already be sentenced to 5 years without first
| being tried or convicted?
| atherton94027 wrote:
| There was a special law (that his party voted for btw)
| that added sentencing enhancements for the specific crime
| he did iirc
| immibis wrote:
| It's surprisingly often the case that criminals assume
| everyone else is doing what they're doing, and want harsh
| punishments for it.
|
| (see also: the rates of homosexuality among homophobes)
| aquassaut wrote:
| No, he was convicted, put in prison, appealed the verdict
| and was released after 20 days waiting for the next trial
| lm28469 wrote:
| You can appeal, and until every legal options have been
| pursued a verdict is not final. Since you're innocent
| until proven guilty, and you cannot be guilty untill all
| options have been pursued, you're free until the appeal
| has been completed.
| xandrius wrote:
| I've had the same exact feeling for a while: several people
| known to be in the files are not the purest people we know and
| I'm not sure them being there will have any effect whatsoever.
| Taking Trump, what would really change to his image? All his
| supporters are already ok with the stuff he did/said and his
| opponents are already against him.
|
| All his political/business allies won't easily switch as they
| stay his connections and money, not his clean image.
|
| It just feels like a real-life reality show to keep the news
| flowing and people just enough bewildered and curious to keep
| coming back for more. Basically the perfect material for a
| while.
|
| Especially with all the hyper redacted parts, groups can start
| literally reading between the lines and make unfounded
| allegations to create even more clicks.
| the_af wrote:
| I think Trump being shown with underage girls (or irrefutably
| implicated in pedophilia) would damage his reputation with
| his MAGA fanbase. It's the one thing they won't forgive him
| for, if enough evidence is provided. They already clashed
| over this, with Trump lashing out against his supporters
| because of this, seemingly the only crack in their
| unflinching loyalty.
|
| I think it's what happens when you cultivate a conspiratorial
| fanbase: eventually the conspiracies will mention you.
| zzrrt wrote:
| I'm not so sure. After years of ignoring every other sign,
| what would it take for them to believe? His suggestive
| comments about his own daughter on multiple occasions, his
| opinion of 12-year old Paris Hilton, his mentioning 12
| years old as a limit with Howard Stern[1], turning up in
| beauty pageant changing rooms, the "grab em by the p*ssy"
| tape, the swerving between Epstein case is a hoax to frame
| him vs. it's real but only implicates Democrats.
|
| I think of JD Vance, when Trump's Epstein birthday card had
| been described but not released, he scoffed they didn't
| provide an image. Weeks later, we had an image released by
| Congress, so then JD Vance tweaked his arguments a bit but
| still denies basically everything. The evidence he
| requested did not change his mind anyway. Trump's
| supporters, for the most part, will say it's AI, faked
| images, paid liars, mentally ill accusers, Trump haters,
| fake news, Trump was only there to inform on Democrats,
| it's not what it looks like, the media is lying about
| girls' birthdates, etc etc before they'll ever admit he's a
| sick man. If they wanted to believe that, the evidence is
| already there.
|
| Personally I have a fair amount of doubt that he has
| committed a crime against a minor, but he is obviously
| lecherous and well below the supposed moral sexual
| standards of many of his supporters. It should not matter
| to them whether a 60+ year old married man only peeks and
| banters about young girls or if he has actually touched
| them. If they're still around, it will take a lot to snap
| them out of it.
|
| [1] I know he didn't actually say that 13 is okay or
| whatever, but what kind of pervert or fool jumps all the
| way down to 12 when asked? Way below the lowest age of
| consent in the States. This should be disqualifying on the
| grounds of horrendously bad judgment to phrase it that way
| in public, let alone what it may or may not reveal about
| his criminality.
| the_af wrote:
| I agree many Trump supporters will be able to spin --
| even if just to themselves -- any damning news no matter
| what (especially in this age of easily spoofed photos and
| videos) but still, puzzlingly enough, his voting fanbase
| actually made the Epstein files a thing, so much that he
| publicly lashed against them when they wouldn't let go.
| It was the one crack in his armor, the only (mild)
| falling out with them he's ever had. Do you remember
| this?
|
| I think Trump made the Epstein conspiracy such a thing,
| it's now hard to disentangle from the minds of his MAGA
| supporters. All it takes is for some of his political
| rivals (from within the party) to fan the flames.
|
| I'm not sure about what Trump actually did, and we have
| no solid proof. I can only guess, judging from how the
| man behaves, and his general attitudes toward lying and
| women.
| fifilura wrote:
| > after years of trials, one of our former President finally
| went to jail for a few weeks. And now, they're invited by media
| all over the country so they can complain about how unfair it
| was, they published a book about it, sold in the tens of
| thousands, their son is the new TV's favorite..
|
| Yeah this is insightful. Another dictator went to jail in 1920s
| for staging a coup and used that time for writing his manifesto
| and getting sympathy from his followers. Some times (often
| these days) politics just lives on a plane outside the justice
| system. And it is really creepy.
| bromuro wrote:
| Thanks for writing this. I also feel disturbing such morbid
| outlook to someone's private digital life.
| huntertwo wrote:
| They are being forced to release the files by a new law passed
| by congress. This is malicious compliance and they're not
| actually releasing what they're supposed to be releasing.
|
| Rich people are hiding their crimes against children with
| corruption. This law seeks to reveal this corruption. Why is
| that wrong?
| ptoo wrote:
| Exactly.
|
| >Share everything to the world, and let everyone make their
| own judgement based on what they see?
|
| What's the alternative to this? They don't share all the
| information with the world and we're expected to believe
| their evaluation of the evidence?
| jonp888 wrote:
| There's the police and the criminal justice system for
| that.
|
| I suggest you post your e-mail login details and here and a
| dump of the contents of your phone, then all of HN can all
| check through and see what crimes you're guilty of.
|
| I'm sure you'll say you haven't committed any crimes, but
| why should we be expected to believe you if you don't share
| all your information with the world?
| huntertwo wrote:
| When you sue someone, you can subpoena for evidence. Any
| evidence from that presented to the court is then public
| record. The police and criminal justice system doesn't
| usually enforce privacy like that in criminal
| proceedings.
|
| Are you trying to say that these documents shouldn't be
| public because it violates someone's right to privacy?
| the_af wrote:
| But there's no reasonable indication that the person
| you're replying to has committed any crime, while there
| _is_ evidence that some of the people on Epstein 's list,
| including Trump, have committed crimes. In fact, Trump
| made a big deal of asserting this, back when he didn't
| expect this to blow back on him.
|
| It's not the same to ask for public disclosure for people
| likely to be involved in a crime, for which there is at
| least some initial (albeit inconclusive) evidence than it
| is to ask the same of a random person for which there is
| no evidence at all.
| Zigurd wrote:
| This is all supposedly Epstein's property. Dead people
| have a very short list of rights or things that resemble
| rights that belong to their estate. Privacy and
| protection from slander aren't among those rights. You
| could argue that digging him up and gratuitously posting
| pictures of a postmortem would violate the right to
| dignity for corporeal remains. But apart from that, if
| you emailed Jeffrey, he has no power to keep that
| correspondence private.
| sorokod wrote:
| > There's the police and the criminal justice system for
| that.
|
| Well yes, however there was an orchestrated effort to
| convince people that the system is not working. That
| effort was successful enough to generate public interest
| we observe now. Beyond morbid curiosity, there is a
| belief that the exposure may force the system to do now
| what it was supposed to do in the first place
| runako wrote:
| I would agree that anyone who is specifically named in an
| Act of Congress requiring that to happen, which Act is
| then duly signed into law[1], should release their
| information. That doesn't currently apply to anyone other
| than the late Jeffrey Epstein, so we are all good.
|
| 1 - https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-
| bill/4405
| _heimdall wrote:
| We have to believe their evaluation no matter what, they're
| only releasing what they decide to release and can redact
| along the way.
| huntertwo wrote:
| Only certain redactions are allowed under this law, so
| it's not so cut and dry. There is an enforcement
| mechanism, tbd if it actually gets used.
| _heimdall wrote:
| The public in this case is effectively a defense attorney
| waiting for discovery - we only get what the other side
| determined to be worth providing and catching them
| breaking the law is extremely difficult.
| huntertwo wrote:
| Very true - the one caveat being that certain people know
| of the existence of things that should be published -
| lots of way to trip yourself up and get caught if you're
| trying to conceal things or otherwise improperly redact
| information.
| Zigurd wrote:
| The law specifies which redactions are legal. The
| enforcement mechanism, IIRC, comes through obstruction.
| goatlover wrote:
| I certainly don't believe their evaluation.
| tmoertel wrote:
| Regarding this error:
|
| > like repeating they decreased drugs price by 600%
|
| The NYT and other media outlets like to point out that this
| claim is mathematically impossible. However, "cut prices by
| 600%" is understood perfectly well by most people (but not
| pedants) to mean "we undid price hikes of 600%."
|
| I suspect that this phrasing was chosen as a "wedge" to drive
| home to the MAGA faithful that the news media is biased against
| them.
| kyle-rb wrote:
| Does that logic apply only when the claimed cut is over 100%?
|
| If I advertise that my store "cut prices by 50%" but the
| prices are actually only 33% lower (which is the same as
| undoing a 50% price hike), would it be pedantic to call me
| out on my bullshit?
| tmoertel wrote:
| > Does that logic apply only when the claimed cut is over
| 100%?
|
| Yes, I'd say.
|
| It's the same as the informal usage of "X times smaller" to
| describe scaling by 1/X. The idiom generally isn't used
| unless X > 1. (The exception might be when several values
| of X are reported together. Then one might say "0.74 times
| smaller" to maintain parallel form with nearby "4 times
| smaller" and similar claims.)
| DrammBA wrote:
| You ignored the 2nd part of their message, imagine this:
|
| > We cut prices by 50%! Before $30, now $20
|
| Would it be pedantic to call that price cut bullshit?
| tmoertel wrote:
| Sorry, I thought that my answer to the second question
| was implied by my answer to the first question.
|
| To answer your question, no, it would not be pedantic to
| question that claim. It conforms to no common usage that
| I am aware of.
| DrammBA wrote:
| > It conforms to no common usage that I am aware of.
|
| It conforms to:
|
| > "cut prices by 600%" is understood perfectly well by
| most people (but not pedants) to mean "we undid price
| hikes of 600%."
| blablabla123 wrote:
| Yes I'm also watching with disbelief. Even more so since media
| attention in the EU about it seems higher than in the US.
| Although the recent trove I found especially disturbing.
|
| I recently watched a documentary where elites from beginning of
| the 20th century were also portrayed. Self-portrayed as
| Philanthropists. Moral bankruptcy became obvious, although in
| other manifestations such as shooting members of worker unions.
| And the US government did something in form of the New Deal,
| splitting monopolies and other policies.
|
| In an optimistic scenario I'd expect something similar. New
| ways to hold elites accountable and keeping extreme differences
| in wealth in check.
| tonymet wrote:
| Decades of unresolved corruption scandals , finally a chance to
| confirm what we suspected about sleazy and deplorable elites .
| Slim chances, but what else do we have
| yieldcrv wrote:
| Sarkozy is free on appeal, not like he was pardoned or found
| unaccountable
|
| I think your underlying question comes down to a relationship
| with the media, accountability and prosperity
|
| By distraction, I think that's media driven, can be ignored.
| State actions are transparent enough that you dont need the
| media to tell you what to pay attention to
|
| In some religious dogma, Prosperity is tied to good deeds,
| conformity to what collaborative for society. With the expected
| contrary being suffering.
|
| Seen as "Prosperity Preaching" in Christianity, the concept of
| karma outside of Abrahamic religions. This is a fiction that
| has never matched the real world so once that expectation is
| dropped it will be easier to navigate the world. There is no
| relationship to financial reward from conformity to a social
| collaborative behavior, in fact its mostly the opposite,
| maximum extraction is a core tenant of our system and what is
| incentivized. If the market is interested in something you can
| earn from it
|
| And this goes finally into the relationship with
| accountability. The justice system acts on the rails of its own
| mechanizations. Its a perversion to want that to include total
| ostracization, total financial distress for an indeterminate
| time, I actually dont know the limits of what people want. It
| seems more so related to how it affects poorer people that way
| while wealthier and savvier people are exempt from distress,
| but it shouldnt be the case for poorer people either.
| keepamovin wrote:
| I understand the desire to make a suite of apps, and to create
| something cool for people to play with. Is your motivation to
| involve your creation with this topic specifically because you
| desire to expose people doing bad things, for the righteousness
| and morality of such?
|
| Also, do you feel it's more important that the information simply
| "gets out there" than there exist a coherent set of theses
| addressing questions like: 1) what was the nature, scope and
| purpose of the hustle Epstein was fronting/running? 2) Who
| unequivocally did bad things related to this?
|
| It's not an either or, but right now it appears the topic is data
| without conclusion.
|
| I think it would be interesting to target an AI at all the data
| and have it devise a set of theses with support. My feeling is
| the topic remains in a state of "100% data, 0% conclusions" -
| which appears to be a way to sate public curiosity while avoiding
| consequence.
| dvrp wrote:
| Jemini has access to the data to help make sense of it.
|
| We are working on better embeddings including image embeddings.
| EnPissant wrote:
| Is this like JDate but for email?
| KellyCriterion wrote:
| Wow, you cloned GMail completely within a short timefram? It
| looks more or less like the original Google product.
|
| You could make a spinoff after this Epstein wave is gone: Use the
| front end to build a commercially viable product! :-)
|
| Thanks for the ton of work!
| nee1r wrote:
| being able to search through the files when they're purposefully
| so obfuscated is great
| wltr wrote:
| Oh my, I think that's the most impressive work I've seen here on
| the HN. Very well done! I hope the public would explore the whole
| thing pretty quickly. Personally, I afraid they, the files, were
| highly tampered with, so obviously a lot could be hidden. Yet,
| still, that's an achievement we have this opportunity to explore
| the whole thing, I guess. So this project is impressive in many
| ways. I enjoyed exploring the interface, can't believe that's
| just a clone, not a real Google product!
| dostick wrote:
| How can you post those emails and make a joke out of them - they
| have this footer that clearly states that if you are not a
| recipient you must delete the email immediately. Whole business
| world have this footer for a reason, for situations like this, so
| you can be sure your emails will not go public.
| throwfaraway135 wrote:
| Although in principle I agree with the sentiment, sometimes for
| difficult illnesses we need to accept the side effects of the
| cure.
| tianqi wrote:
| This project is truly next level rather fascinating. Particularly
| intriguing is observing JEE's considerable interest regarding
| human intelligence and artificial intelligence, engaging in
| discussions on these matters with Chomsky and Marvin Minsky.
| vigneshtd wrote:
| this is so f cool ;)
| yakkomajuri wrote:
| Complete side note but anyone else bothered by how they type? I
| guess email was being used much like texting here but still.
| Seems it's not just Epstein either.
|
| > Hi Jeffrey long time now hear don't sweat Patterson was with
| trump last week small dinner he really would make a good
| financial steward no agenda woody is busting his ass for him Rudy
| too wiki leaks tonight on Hillary stopped caring fed wants to
| raise I guess terrible luck brexit Deutschebank then probably
| some terror thing smart to be out of it best jonathan
|
| The above is from Jonathan Farkas
| subdavis wrote:
| Wild guess: some kind of elite status signaling. "no time for
| punctuation im so busy very important u understand"
| mr_mitm wrote:
| I believe this is from people using some speech-to-text
| mechanism who don't know or don't care that you can literally
| spell out punctuation.
| sprybear wrote:
| impressive stuff
| hn-acct wrote:
| Why does this site work better on mobile than the real google
| suite. Funny stuff
| notyourwork wrote:
| Scale of the data behind the service likely contributes. This
| data is fixed. Therefore it's easily indexed once into a cache
| or memory. Your Gmail is ever changing which results in some
| lost optimization without dramatic cost increase.
| lukeigel wrote:
| Thank you! I tried to optimize scrolling through the photos the
| most. Avoided any virtualization library, used Cloudflare for
| image transformations and for caching, etc. The masonry layout
| and polish you see here is all
| https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=walz though
|
| Specifically at https://www.jmail.world/photos
| sali0 wrote:
| Should have called it Blackmail
| amelius wrote:
| Is this the public release, or did you filter it down further?
| Pikamander2 wrote:
| You might want to consider getting rid of the Google product
| logos to avoid a cease-and-desist.
| vldszn wrote:
| Wow, that's impressive! Are you planning to open-source the
| project? =)
| lukeigel wrote:
| Yes we'd love to. Letting the dust settle first
| skilled wrote:
| Not much to say other than that this is really impressive work.
| Thanks for putting it all together!
| Metacelsus wrote:
| "LIVE! Melinda Gates on How Empowering Women Changes the World"
|
| lol
| 1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote:
| Text-only, No Javascript:
|
| https://www.jmail.world/api/emails.json
| FilosofumRex wrote:
| with Epstein and ilk outed, the real question is who'll (or has)
| replace him?
|
| My money is on Jared Kushner, as the front runner. He has access
| via Trump, connected to Russian jew mafia via his dad, & trusted
| by Mossad.
| epsters wrote:
| Searched 'Ehud Barak' in Jmail and the results were
| disappointing. Which was odd because I recently read many
| interesting revelations about their relationship and Epstein's
| ties with Israel gleaned from emails between the two. The emails
| apparently revealed Epstein's vital role in forging security
| deals between Israel and the governments of Cote d'Ivore and
| Mongolia; Others showed Epstein offering to connect Putin with
| Ehud and trying to hatch a plot to replace Bashar-Al-Assad in
| Syria with another pro-Russian dictator - but one who would be
| pro-Israel also (it didn't pan out). And also emails showing
| Epstein setting up an introduction between Ehud Barak and Peter
| Thiel. Found none of this in the results.
|
| Turns out most of the above revelations came from Ehud Barak's
| own hacked email account which were recently leaked by Handala,
| purportedly a pro-palestinian hacking group. None of the this
| stuff was covered in any of the mainstream news- Not by NYT ,
| BBC, CNN, nothing. Most of the journalistic coverage had been
| from DropSite News. And what did The Guardian decide at the time
| to focus on in it's featured story regarding Epstein? Noam
| Chomsky.
|
| That pretty much tells you everything you need to know about what
| Jeffrey Epstein was about and the role of the Governments and
| Media in all this. I don't believe the truth regarding Epstein
| will come from the 'Epstein Files', the US government, its allies
| or the mainstream western press. It will probably have to be from
| hackers, whistleblowers or the victims willing to break their
| confidentiality agreements. Or from any dead-mans-switches that
| the feds haven't manage to find and neutralize.
|
| https://sfstandard.com/2025/11/23/extended-courtship-linking...
|
| https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/jeffrey-epstein-ehud-barak-le...
|
| https://www.dropsitenews.com/s/epstein-and-israel
| sans_souse wrote:
| Site is down for me?
| worik wrote:
| This is going to spin out of control for those desperate not to
| have their details released
|
| It was stupid to accept the gift of young women
|
| Stupid to promise to release the data
|
| Really stupid to partially release
|
| Unfathomably stupid to then try and pull some back
|
| The media smell blood in the water, this is going to be a feeding
| frenzy
| whoamii wrote:
| Can you add a "Trash" folder with the documents that have been
| unpublished?
| yoan9224 wrote:
| The cost optimization here is impressive - $10 for millions of
| visitors using Next.js + Vercel + Cloudflare R2 (free egress).
|
| I'm building an analytics SaaS with a similar stack and this
| validates our architecture choices. A few questions:
|
| 1. How are you handling ISR vs full static generation? You
| mentioned migrating to generateStaticParams - did you pre-
| generate all email pages or use on-demand ISR?
|
| 2. Did you hit any Vercel function limits with the email
| processing, or is everything cached aggressively enough that it
| doesn't matter?
|
| 3. R2's free egress is a game-changer - are you using
| Cloudflare's image transformations or handling resizing client-
| side?
|
| The caching strategy here is the real MVP. Most people
| underestimate how far good caching with Next.js can take you
| before you need Redis or more complex infrastructure.
| sporkxrocket wrote:
| Jeffery Epstein: heyy it looks like your diet program has worked
|
| Reid Hoffman: slow progress. planning to see you in August. Hope
| you're well.
| yboris wrote:
| Also related: https://epstein-files-browser.vercel.app/ -
| _Epstein Files Browser_ - an infinite scroll through all the
| photos
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