[HN Gopher] You have reached the end of the internet (2006)
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       You have reached the end of the internet (2006)
        
       Author : raytopia
       Score  : 189 points
       Date   : 2025-12-20 17:10 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | jacewhitmer wrote:
       | Reminded me of this commercial
       | 
       | https://youtu.be/_uXtWIg_A7M?si=h0FSN79T5SDoUuGm
        
       | benwerd wrote:
       | I mean, _finally_.
        
       | mapontosevenths wrote:
       | It was fun while it lasted.
       | 
       | For me the high point was Fark or maybe Homestar and the low
       | point was obviosuly Facebook... or maybe the end of Democracy.
        
         | Loughla wrote:
         | Fark and cracked in about 2007 were peak post development,
         | profit motivated Internet. Homestar runner and albino black
         | sheep (shout out to flashback for many fun dmt experiences) in
         | about 2004 was peak fun Internet.
        
         | 0xDEAFBEAD wrote:
         | Interesting how internet boosters in the late 90s/early 2000s
         | told us the internet would revitalize democracy by making it so
         | anyone could publish. I'm not aware of a single cynic who
         | successfully predicted how things actually ended up turning
         | out. Nor have I seen much of an attempt to revisit those early
         | predictions.
        
           | neonroku wrote:
           | Earth by David Brin and Ender's Game made some predictions in
           | this area
        
             | subdavis wrote:
             | I vaguely remember "The Nets" in Enders game but not how
             | they functioned. What about Card's portrayal did you find
             | prescient?
        
               | eucyclos wrote:
               | Card's idea that everyone could publish and excellent
               | voices would be amplified was correct in premise, though
               | it's conclusion was completely off. Classic XKCD parodied
               | it brilliantly IMHO: https://xkcd.com/635/
        
           | eimrine wrote:
           | RMS has seen our troubles with non-free software as early as
           | in 80s. What he has not predict that the software has find
           | even more cruel way of shipping - disservices which do not
           | even allow the freedom 0.
           | 
           | BTW the statement about democracy is not a lie - everyone
           | knows some big and small revolutions happened after someone's
           | post in social networks. Also such things as anonymous news
           | sources, torrents and bitcoin has democraticized a whole lot
           | of things in our lives.
        
           | exq wrote:
           | "AI will democratize education and information access as
           | everyone will have their own personal tutor and librarian!"
           | 
           | History repeats
        
           | dokyun wrote:
           | You should play Metal Gear Solid 2, or at least watch the
           | last codec call[1]. See how much you can apply what it talks
           | about to the current year. This game came out a month after
           | 9/11.
           | 
           | [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKl6WjfDqYA
        
           | numpad0 wrote:
           | It did, then piracy happened, couple revolutions in Middle
           | East followed, and the crackdown on English-speaking social
           | media began.
        
           | garyrob wrote:
           | > I'm not aware of a single cynic who successfully predicted
           | how things actually ended up turning out.
           | 
           | Let's change that here and now! :)
           | 
           | I was one of the optimists in the very early 2000s when I
           | attended a talk by Columbia professor Eli Noam. In 2002, he
           | wrote an article in the Financial Times called "Why the
           | internet is bad for democracy" which essentially predicted
           | the world is we know it.
           | 
           | I immediately saw that he was right, at least with regard to
           | the fact that it COULD turn out as it has, in fact, turned
           | out. He fundamentally changed my view, way back then. In 2005
           | a version was published in a more academic context: "Why the
           | Internet is bad for democracy." Communications of the ACM
           | 48(10): 57-58 (2005).
           | 
           | Here's the FT version: https://www.citicolumbia.org/wp-
           | content/uploads/2022/01/Why-...
        
             | mapontosevenths wrote:
             | That was startlingly accurate! Thanks for sharing.
             | 
             | Any idea if he's published anything recently? A quick
             | Google seems to show a textbook a few years back and then
             | not much recently.
        
         | abruzzi wrote:
         | The high point was the original useless pages (especially the
         | uselessness of pi.) Its been downhill since then.
        
         | taylorsatula wrote:
         | A good friend of mine, god honest truth, met his now-wife on
         | Fark less than three years ago. Sure is somethin.
        
         | verisimi wrote:
         | Do you realise we have never had 'democracy' - we have
         | 'representative democracy', a totally different thing.
         | Thousands, perhaps millions of people, vote once every 4-5
         | years for one person to represent them on thousands of
         | governmental decisions. That person is under no constraints to
         | do what they said to gain your vote either - they can do the
         | exact opposite with no repercussion.
         | 
         | Voting as we have it, is a highly abstract, meta "democracy",
         | with 'the will of the people' effecting a meaningless level of
         | force on the tiller. As per the design.
        
           | saghm wrote:
           | At least in the US, each person has a lot more than one
           | representative they vote for, with multiple levels of
           | government with different intended scopes. As much as that
           | doesn't completely eliminate the problems you describe, I'd
           | argue that that focus on only the first election listed in
           | the ballot at the expense of the others is one of the (many)
           | causes of how we ended in the state we are today. It's a lot
           | easier for someone to be elected to represent you while
           | ignoring your interests if you don't even know or care about
           | the fact that they're running. If people cared more about
           | local elections (and even federal elections other than for
           | president), there would be at least _some_ increase in
           | pressure for legislative bodies to respond to the will of the
           | people. Without that, the issue isn 't even that they're
           | going the opposite of what the people who voted for them
           | want, but the the number of people who voted for them (or
           | even for the candidates they're running against) aren't
           | anywhere close to representative proportion of the
           | population. We don't really know if representative democracy
           | would approximate actual democracy because the people they're
           | representing aren't the full population, but the small
           | segment of politically active ones.
        
         | eucyclos wrote:
         | I still don't understand what happened to stumbledupon. That
         | was INTERNET! for me.
        
         | saghm wrote:
         | A new Strongbad email was published within the last month, to
         | the surprise of probably everyone left who remembers Homestar
         | Runner. The fun stuff is still out there; it's just not the
         | only stuff there (and never was), and there's probably a lot
         | more of that non-fun stuff too.
        
       | flippyhead wrote:
       | https://zombo.com !!
        
         | ginko wrote:
         | Oh but reaching zombo.com is only the beginning. You can do
         | anything on zombo.com!
        
         | tomjakubowski wrote:
         | I used to work on a CEF (Chromium Embedded Framework)
         | integration for an in-house multimedia platform that was kind
         | of like a game engine with distributed real-time rendering. We
         | used https://html5zombo.com routinely to smoke-test: the
         | animation and audio together made it easy to tell when machines
         | were getting out of sync, or when we weren't pushing frames
         | fast enough, or when the audio was broken (as pulseaudio and
         | CEF version updates would often do). Good times.
        
       | YokoZar wrote:
       | The Internet is a mere 23 PiB according to the graphic. These
       | days you can fit that on just a few racks.
        
         | theblazehen wrote:
         | Can even get it in a single rack if you use SSDs
        
           | 1970-01-01 wrote:
           | A few ounces is all we need!
           | 
           | https://www.wired.com/story/weight-of-the-internet/
        
       | opengrass wrote:
       | This is up since at least February 2006.
        
         | netsharc wrote:
         | In 6 weeks that'll be 20 years ago.. how did 20 years disappear
         | like that?
        
           | jrjrjfhgggg wrote:
           | It became part of the hologram that is the universe and
           | time....
        
         | Sophira wrote:
         | I'm pretty sure the page itself has existed before then, just
         | at a different location. For example, here's a page from 2000
         | that's in the Internet Archive that looks kind of similar:
         | https://web.archive.org/web/20000115232652/http://www.shibum...
        
       | bensons1 wrote:
       | I remember back in the days the HTTP proxy of Sun Microsystems
       | used to have a similar page when something went wrong. Always
       | tried to find it again, but failed.
        
         | ahazred8ta wrote:
         | https://thispageintentionallyleftblank.org/
        
       | medwards666 wrote:
       | Geez ... that's a heckuvalotta pron consumption ...
        
       | wizardforhire wrote:
       | I was hoping for more... maybe some ending cuts scenes, some
       | recaps of adventures, maybe some cameos from developers... this
       | just seems lazy and like my time/life was a wasted effort...
        
         | YokoZar wrote:
         | The developers never thought you'd make it this far.
        
       | boncester wrote:
       | omg I haven't seen this in years! :D
        
         | nrhrjrjrjtntbt wrote:
         | you came back? keep planting trees!
        
       | ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
       | Reminds me of this classic bit:
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDbyYGrswtg
        
       | nrhrjrjrjtntbt wrote:
       | What year do we predict internet.zip would be downloadable in say
       | one day.
        
         | amarant wrote:
         | October 30th, 1969. After that it started to grow
         | uncontrollably and quickly became unwieldy
        
           | nrhrjrjrjtntbt wrote:
           | Ha ha. I meant the particular snapshotted internet.zip with
           | alleged file size on that site.
        
         | Wowfunhappy wrote:
         | It occurs to me that downloading e.g. llama.cpp kind of is like
         | downloading the whole internet? Or a very lossy-compressed
         | version of it.
        
         | tehjoker wrote:
         | With a 100 Gbps connection, it would take 21.3 days, so it
         | needs to get about 21x better than that.
        
       | qingcharles wrote:
       | Me finishing browsing the final page of the WWW in 1993. "Well,
       | that was fun. Back to IRC."
        
         | nativeit wrote:
         | I remember when "browsing the WWW" literally involved scrolling
         | through a categorized list of pages via a portal in Netscape.
         | At the time, the only place I knew to get online was a single
         | PC in the library at UNC Charlotte, where my mother worked.
         | There was a sign next to it explaining what the World Wide Web
         | was. I taught myself to play the guitar using ASCII tabs on the
         | OnLine Guitar Archive.
        
       | krackers wrote:
       | I remember this used to be www.wwwdotcom.com but it seems the
       | internet lasted longer than that page did.
        
       | NateEag wrote:
       | My minimalist version has a better domain name:
       | 
       | http://endinter.net/
        
       | tsumnia wrote:
       | Now that we've reached the end of the Internet, enjoy
       | instructions on how to get OFF the Internet.
       | 
       | https://doctorsensei.com/how-to-get-off-the-internet.html
        
       | ofalkaed wrote:
       | I remember when this was new and it was still possible to
       | conceive of the internet as finite. Simpler times. Is it possible
       | to view the internet as finite these days? Is it actually
       | possible to turn out the lights (touch grass) these days?
        
         | Tanoc wrote:
         | The thing that finally let it sink in that things were growing
         | at an inconceivable rate was when I realized my chances of
         | mistyping a URL and being lead to a blank page was in the
         | thousandths of a percent. Between giant companies buying up
         | typos to prevent phishing attacks and holding companies domain
         | squatting almost every single combination of words and phrases
         | now has a viable URL. Even my former go to example for a
         | useless URL that went unused for the seventeen years I knew it,
         | "skeeble", actually goes to a Chinese domain squat now.
        
         | eucyclos wrote:
         | Dead Internet Theory seems the new iteration... not finite in
         | extent but in novelty maybe, a small mirror maze with infinite
         | reflections on a very small set of themes.
        
       | seydor wrote:
       | more or less correct. after that, it's all rehashes of the same
       | material as memes and social nonsense. It's all services, no
       | content
        
       | dlm24 wrote:
       | Why was it the end of the internet?
        
       | zelias wrote:
       | Hmmm this isn't https://endoftheinter.net
        
       | bunnybomb2 wrote:
       | Theres no way this is seriously the end of the internet? Is this
       | confirmed?
        
       | mlpro wrote:
       | I don't understand.
        
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