[HN Gopher] Tesla US sales drop to nearly 4-year low in November
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Tesla US sales drop to nearly 4-year low in November
Author : doener
Score : 29 points
Date : 2025-12-12 20:53 UTC (2 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (www.reuters.com)
| mikestew wrote:
| From TFA:
|
| _"The end of credits hit many EV rivals harder. Overall U.S. EV
| sales fell more than 41% in November and Tesla 's market share
| rose to 56.7% from 43.1%, the data showed."_
|
| So EV sales are down, less so for Tesla than other makers, but
| someone needed a catchy headline? I mean, I have absolutely no
| love for Tesla, but am I wrong in thinking that this is a little
| click-baity?
| browningstreet wrote:
| The article isn't focused on Tesla's market share, it's focused
| on the mix of standard and premium product offerings they've
| rolled out lately and the effect that has had on absolute unit
| sales (and margins).
|
| As it is they still can't sell as many cars as they used to,
| which stands in contrast to Elon's pay package.
|
| Given that, the title seems accurate to me.
| FireBeyond wrote:
| This number makes no sense. In the space of one month Tesla's
| market share increased by over 30%? On overall declining sales,
| including for Tesla?
|
| Nothing about that makes sense.
|
| > According to an Experian Automotive report on electric
| vehicles, out of the 292.3 million cars and trucks on the road
| in the U.S. in 2024, approximately 4,092,200 (1.4%) of those
| were electric cars.
|
| So 43% would be 1.76M. Going to 57% would be 2.33M, i.e. nearly
| 600K sales. Except:
|
| > Demand for Standard versions was expected to support sales in
| November, but the company's total sales fell nearly 23% to
| 39,800 vehicles from 51,513 a year earlier and were the lowest
| since January 2022, according to the data from Cox, which
| tracks sales across the industry.
|
| Whatever "math" is happening in this article is fundamentally
| broken.
|
| Unless they mean "the market sale of EVs in November", in which
| case 39,800 of 70,000 is Tesla, up from... 31,000?
|
| So Tesla's monthly sales drops to a 4 year low, down 23%, but
| somehow 8,800 vehicles is enough to increase market share by
| 30%+? I have no idea what mashup of numbers is happening here.
| breve wrote:
| > _Whatever "math" is happening in this article is
| fundamentally broken._
|
| No. They're talking about sales and market share in November.
|
| The short version is Tesla is selling fewer cars these days.
| m463 wrote:
| > the rest of its lineup is older models with minor refreshes.
|
| minor refreshes = removing critical controls like turn signal and
| drive select stalks.
|
| Who would want to go from several dedicated tactile controls in
| model s/x to no stalks and few controls?
| square_usual wrote:
| I'm very happy with the new design. I miss the buttons when I
| drive a car with stalks.
| frogperson wrote:
| I'm still shocked they have any sales at all. You couldn't pay me
| to drive around in one of Musk's Hitler-mobiles. There is no way
| I would pay money for one of his cars or support him in any way.
| jaredcwhite wrote:
| Every time I see a CyberTruck out in the wild, I feel like
| reality is broken.
|
| The level of disaster of that rollout, combined with D.O.G.E. and
| "Mechahitler" Grok, has forever tarnished the Tesla brand. I
| suspect there is a sizable group of people who will never buy a
| product by that brand ever again (or at least as long as Musk is
| at the helm).
| ekjhgkejhgk wrote:
| I notice you skipped mentioning the CEO doing nazi salutes.
| antaviana wrote:
| Eventually, they'll be fine. Wolkswagen was established by the
| German nazi regime and it has been fine for a long time in
| spite of its past.
| holtkam2 wrote:
| If Tesla fires Musk I'll buy one of their cars that day
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