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Ensuring a National Policy Framework for Artificial Intelligence
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/11/trump-signs-executive-order-...
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-signs-executive...
Author : andsoitis
Score : 22 points
Date : 2025-12-11 23:56 UTC (23 hours ago)
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| andsoitis wrote:
| _White House AI czar and Silicon Valley venture capitalist David
| Sacks elaborated on the rationale for the executive order in a
| post on X.
|
| Sacks argued that this domain of "interstate commerce" was "the
| type of economic activity that the Framers of the Constitution
| intended to reserve for the federal government to regulate."
|
| At the Oval Office signing ceremony, Sacks said, "We have 50
| states running in 50 different directions. It just doesn't make
| sense."_
| mcdan wrote:
| So much for "states rights" and the "laboratories of
| democracy."
| AndrewKemendo wrote:
| We had a pretty decisive event eliminating precicely that
| experiment
| TimorousBestie wrote:
| Could you be more specific?
| AndrewKemendo wrote:
| https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/14th-
| amendment
| schmidtleonard wrote:
| He probably means the civil war.
|
| I'd like to point out that the South was only a fan of
| States Rights exactly insofar as they let them do
| slavery. The millisecond it came to forcing Northern
| states to return escaped slaves, they suddenly weren't
| the same principled supporters of devolving and
| federating power. Funny how that works.
| jandrewrogers wrote:
| Wickard v Filburn rearing its ugly ahead again.
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn
| CPLX wrote:
| > Sacks argued that this domain of "interstate commerce" was
| "the type of economic activity that the Framers of the
| Constitution intended to reserve for the federal government to
| regulate."
|
| They did indeed. It's explicitly delegated to congress which
| declined to pass a law like this.
|
| The EO is just obviously null and void in the face of any
| relevant state law.
| cebert wrote:
| I wish this article would include what the details of the
| framework are. It's unhelpful in its current form.
| dang wrote:
| We've since changed the URL to link to the order itself, and
| put links to other articles in the toptext.
| techblueberry wrote:
| A win for states rights!
| treetalker wrote:
| Federal Preemption: A Legal Primer --
| https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R45825
| treetalker wrote:
| Federal Preemption: A Legal Primer --
| https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R45825
| throw0101a wrote:
| Executive order (EO) count over the last few presidents:
|
| * Bush (41): 166
|
| * Clinton (two terms): 364
|
| * Bush (43; two terms): 291
|
| * Obama (two terms): 276
|
| * Trump (45): 220
|
| * Biden: 162
|
| * Trump (47; <1 year): 218
|
| Source:
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| * https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/executive-or...
|
| Someone commented that (one of?) the reason that Trump is using
| EOs so much is probably because is not willing (or able) to
| actually get deals on in the legislature to pass his policies (or
| what passes for policy with him).
| conception wrote:
| Or why bother when no one will stop you from ruling by fiat?
| nh23423fefe wrote:
| Yes, why would you bother not exercising power you possess?
| scythmic_waves wrote:
| Yep. I punch literally everyone I meet in the face.
|
| I have the power to do it. Why would I not?
| janalsncm wrote:
| Is assaulting people going further your goals?
|
| Presumably EOs further the President's goals.
| LPisGood wrote:
| I once heard it said that Trump governs like a dictator because
| he is too weak to govern like a president. He is extremely
| unpopular and his party holds one of the smallest house
| majorities ever.
| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| meanwhile the url is a different, more direct kind of statement:
|
| _eliminating-state-law-obstruction-of-national-artificial-
| intelligence-policy_
| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| Some more discussion:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46239009
| dang wrote:
| We'll merge that thread hither.
| xeonmc wrote:
| In a parallel universe, the government in the 20th century signed
| bills protecting tobacco giants from State regulation to
| encourage investments furthering the country's international
| competitiveness in the tobacco industry.
| sigwinch wrote:
| That does kind of draw a contrast between Jesse Helms, the
| ultimate tobacco Senator, and Trump. They're almost opposites.
| chrisjj wrote:
| True current title: Trump signs executive order aimed at
| preventing states from regulating AI
| chrisjj wrote:
| > Earlier this week, he reiterated that sentiment in a post on
| Truth Social, saying: "We are beating ALL COUNTRIES at this point
| in the race, but that won't last long if we are going to have 50
| States, many of them bad actors
|
| Has Trump IDed the alleged bad actor states?
| sigwinch wrote:
| It's hard to tell if what he says is even relate to what he
| will do. A hardline on semiconductors to China faded this week
| when he needed some economic stimulation.
|
| So when states without AI data centers seek to ameliorate tax
| and zoning obstacles, it won't be Federal preemption in their
| way, but what benefits Trump.
| munchler wrote:
| It's the blue ones, of course.
| k310 wrote:
| > Republicans earlier this year failed to pass a similar 10-year
| moratorium on state laws that regulate AI as part of Trump's One
| Big Beautiful Bill Act, with the Senate voting 99-1 to remove
| that ban from the legislation. Trump's order resurrects that
| effort, which failed after bipartisan pushback and Republican
| infighting, but as an order that lacks the force of law. [0]
|
| > Trump has framed the need for comprehensive AI regulation as
| both a necessity for the technology's development and as a means
| of preventing leftist ideology from infiltrating generative AI -
| a common conservative grievance among tech leaders such as Elon
| Musk.
|
| On the other hand ..... Grok and others ...
|
| From the party of "states rights" and "small government"
|
| [0] https://www.hks.harvard.edu/faculty-research/policy-
| topics/d...
| henning wrote:
| Anyone defending policies like this should be honest about the
| fact that they just want policies that will make the most money
| for the VCs and companies who are in a too-big-to-fail circular
| financing Ponzi scheme and they don't give a shit about negative
| externalities of AI or the harmful precedent this sets for how
| the federal government interacts with states. If you want to simp
| for a Russian asset and become a useful idiot for Vladimir Putin
| by extension, be honest about what you are.
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