[HN Gopher] PeerTube is recognized as a digital public good by D...
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PeerTube is recognized as a digital public good by Digital Public
Goods Alliance
Author : fsflover
Score : 326 points
Date : 2025-12-09 17:08 UTC (5 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.digitalpublicgoods.net)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.digitalpublicgoods.net)
| toomuchtodo wrote:
| https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/
|
| https://framagit.org/framasoft/peertube/
|
| https://joinpeertube.org/
| crtasm wrote:
| and v8.0 released today
| toomuchtodo wrote:
| https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/releases/tag/v8.0.0
| Imustaskforhelp wrote:
| Can someone please tldr me what digital public goods alliance
| means and how peertube can benefit from being recognized as a
| digital public good.
|
| From what I can tell, it is UN affiliated/related project where
| basically it tries to make countries integrate these digital
| public goods in their country's ecosystem/ work on these
| (products?)
|
| Is there any amount of sponsorship money that come with this
| classification or more tax benefits?
|
| Or does UN (thus countries who fund UN) itself fund DPGA?
|
| I find this idea fascinating now thinking about it if that can be
| the case, for these countries a few millions or even billions
| collectively might not mean much but it can mean a lot towards
| open source and digital soveriegnity in my opinion too.
| pogue wrote:
| I would also like to know what this means
| yunwal wrote:
| Looks like it qualifies you for UNICEF grants
|
| https://www.unicef.org/innovation/growth-funding#:~:text=Gro...
| ekjhgkejhgk wrote:
| Anyone wanna share some cool channels?
| ikesau wrote:
| My brother's got an instance for canadian urbanism and
| fediverse engineering: https://video.canadiancivil.com
| wrxd wrote:
| https://tinkerbetter.tube/c/veronicaexplains/videos she's also
| on YouTube but it doesn't hurt to use PeerTube and get out of
| Google's reach
| ekjhgkejhgk wrote:
| I was watching the rsync video and she mentions the scenario
| where you run rsync with the remote as source, and the remote
| drive isn't mounted correctly and you end up deleting local.
| LOL
| Animats wrote:
| I put up metaverse rendering tests on Hardlimit.
|
| https://video.hardlimit.com/c/aninats/videos
|
| (It's discouraging having put in so much effort on trying to
| make the Metaverse work, and then having the entire sector
| die.)
| ekjhgkejhgk wrote:
| I'm happy that it did. It was a trick to get people to spend
| more time online so that facebook can make even more money
| off people's time and attention.
| butz wrote:
| Makers @ https://makertube.net/
| ekjhgkejhgk wrote:
| Are these many users actually uploading their stuff there, or
| is this downloading from youtube and re-uploading?
| butz wrote:
| I assume content creators are uploading their own content
| to their peertube channels.
| soundworlds wrote:
| Self-promotion, but the music I release here is totally free to
| use in your own projects. It's all CC0
|
| https://makertube.net/a/johnoestmannmusic/video-channels
| ekianjo wrote:
| Our channel here
| https://peertube.linuxrocks.online/c/boilingsteam/videos
| prmoustache wrote:
| peertube is in that weird space where the software is good
| technically but is overkill for home users and small entities[1]
| and moderation, bandwith and storage cost makes it a bit
| difficult and expensive to host large public shared instances
| unless you find a way to monetize it.
|
| I guess it is more an alternative for Microsoft Stream than
| youtube really as it is more likely to be used as an internal
| video communication platform for a company than a public video
| streaming platform.
|
| [1] if the audience is small, you are just fine sharing vids
| using the html video tags
| graemep wrote:
| > if the audience is small, you are just fine sharing vids
| using the html video tags
|
| Yet people do not do that.
| zamadatix wrote:
| I think that's more a measurement of demand volume than
| anything. It's a VERY tight squeeze between "I'll just send
| this file directly to the few people I want to show it" and
| "I want to show this to anyone" to the point no matter what
| is done by those people it'll seem like nobody does that
| unless it's also done in the other categories.
| cyberax wrote:
| I actually run my own PeerTube instance. I'm mirroring videos
| in my RSS feeds from Patreon and Youtube there. And I also have
| a handful of my own family videos.
| giancarlostoro wrote:
| > find a way to monetize it
|
| If only there were a smart way to build a cryptocoin without
| the environmental mess of miners, but where you earn coinage
| from seeding videos. I feel like you'd want people to have a
| desktop client to let you seed in the background then award
| some sort of virtual currency that can be sold later. I hate to
| sound like a crypto-bro but I can't think of anything else more
| fitting for something already decentralized.
| IncreasePosts wrote:
| What value would this virtual currency have? Okay, someone
| seeded some videos and got a token - why should I go and pay
| them for that token?
| BigGreenJorts wrote:
| Maybe the tokens are how you access the content? Seed to
| get tokens, spend tokens to get new content. If you don't
| want to seed, you buy from users who did seed (or
| resellers).there are many token based comic apps, I wonder
| how feasible this would be on a small scale like that.
| immibis wrote:
| I seed videos to my other computer all day and I'm a
| trillionaire.
| JimmyBuckets wrote:
| Here are some attempts:
|
| LBRY: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LBRY
|
| BTT: https://www.kraken.com/learn/what-is-bittorrent-btt
| rapnie wrote:
| GNU Taler [0] perhaps. They are funded by EU grants, and have
| a funding program [1] going to stimulate the ecosystem.
|
| > We are building an anonymous, taxable payment system using
| modern cryptography. Customers will use traditional money
| transfers to send money to a digital Exchange and in return
| receive (anonymized) digital cash. Customers can use this
| digital cash to anonymously pay Merchants. Merchants can
| redeem the digital cash for traditional money at the digital
| Exchange. As Merchants are not anonymous, they can be taxed,
| enabling income or sales taxes to be withheld by the state
| while providing anonymity for Customers.
|
| [0] https://docs.taler.net/
|
| [1] https://www.taler.net/en/ngi-taler.html
| corndoge wrote:
| From hosting a peertube instance solely for my own stuff for
| several years, I've come to appreciate just how difficult self
| hosting a streaming video platform is. As you say, bandwidth
| and storage requirements are significant; another less obvious
| one is transcoding. When a user uploads an HD video file, it
| needs to be transcoded into lower resolutions if you want there
| to be a hope of people streaming it. While Peertube itself is
| perfectly happy running on 2-4 vcpu cores on a cheap cloud vm,
| if you use those cores to handle transcode jobs it can take
| huge amounts of time (like 20+ hours) to transcode even medium
| length 1080p videos. So you really need either a lot of CPU
| that sits mostly idle, or hardware acceleration, both of which
| are expensive when purchased from cloud providers. Or you can
| use remote transcoding to offload transcode jobs onto your home
| gaming pc or whatever, which works well, but can be complicated
| and a bit touchy to set up properly, and now you have a point
| of failure dependent on your home network...
|
| And then, people watching videos are used to the YouTube
| experience with its world class CDN infra enabling subsecond
| first frame latencies even for 4k videos. They go on Peertube
| and first frame takes like 5 seconds for a 1080p
| video...realistically, with today's attention spans most of
| them are going to bounce before it ever plays.
| hsbauauvhabzb wrote:
| What value do you get in transcoding your own stuff? I have
| plex transcoding disabled on all local network devices that
| stream it and run into minimal issues (codecs on TV devices,
| mostly).
| roughly wrote:
| I've been working to get more involved with, eg, mutual aid
| groups and other forms of local capacity and resiliency building
| over the last year - one thing that's stuck out to me is how many
| of these groups' public face is an Instagram site. That might not
| have been existential a couple years ago, but given what we're
| seeing now with, for instance, Paramount making a rival bid for
| Warner based solely on their coziness with the current
| administration, it doesn't feel like the corporate media
| ecosystem is going to be an even "squint and you can kind of
| pretend" neutral territory for organizing and information
| dissemination going forward.
|
| For all that tools like PeerTube, Mastodon, etc are clunkier and
| more limited than things like YouTube, Bluesky, etc, I think that
| argument is increasingly going to be irrelevant to their value -
| we need to start ensuring our capacity to go from 0-1 on media
| distribution, not from 10-100 or 100+.
| immibis wrote:
| The problem is that everyone is reading Instagram.
|
| I don't understand why. I made an account recently in order to
| access a specific thing. I can confirm the app is 100% pure
| garbage. The home feed is garbage and navigation is awful (to
| keep you on the home feed). I uninstalled it after they were
| caught bypassing the permission system to spy on you, by
| binding localhost ports that web ads would access. The web app
| is no better garbage-wise (but it can't bind ports).
|
| And it's the subcultures that you'd expect to be the most
| untied from corporate shackles, that are the ones most on
| Instagram. I don't get it.
| MichaelZuo wrote:
| By definition someone's actions, if repeated sufficiently
| often, define their real character.
|
| You don't have to take claimed pretenses seriously.
| fsflover wrote:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_purpose_of_a_system_is_wh
| a...
| roughly wrote:
| This is a bit of a harsh take. These same groups use Signal
| for all their internal messaging - by and large the will is
| there, but they're not tech savvy and we haven't given them
| viable alternatives.
| ipaddr wrote:
| Instagram is useless unless their are people you want to
| follow or get people to follow you.
| roughly wrote:
| I think it's two aspects - one is that Insta started out as
| the "not-facebook" platform and Meta's somehow managed not to
| fuck that up, and the other is there's a massive network
| effect - every tattoo artist, venue, and band are on
| instagram now, and it all becomes very self-reinforcing.
| timeon wrote:
| > Meta's somehow managed not to fuck that up
|
| But then they fucked up. Several years ago.
| MangoToupe wrote:
| > Insta started out as the "not-facebook" platform and
| Meta's somehow managed not to fuck that up
|
| Instagram has been synonymous with facebook for the better
| part of a decade
| TulliusCicero wrote:
| > For all that tools like PeerTube, Mastodon, etc are clunkier
| and more limited than things like YouTube, Bluesky, etc, I
| think that argument is increasingly going to be irrelevant to
| their value
|
| Their value is going to stay limited if people don't want to
| actually use them.
|
| Technically proficient people may overlook something being
| clunky if it suits their needs in other ways, but it's a harder
| sell for the average user. And really, it _shouldn 't_ be an
| issue. Good UX isn't trivial, but it's not especially
| complicated or budget-busting either.
| treyd wrote:
| At least for Mastodon and the rest of the Fediverse ecosystem
| it does seem that people actually want to use them, and more
| people every day.
| jamesbelchamber wrote:
| People moved on from Mastodon to Bluesky because it was
| more responsive to user needs. I encouraged people to move
| to Mastodon but then watched them move on.
|
| It is what it is - but it's worth being clear-eyed about
| what it is.
| jmcnulty wrote:
| It has actually improved a lot since then. The UI has had
| changes, search is better, it has quote posts now. More
| usability enhancements are under active development.
| palata wrote:
| Once "normies" have tried and moved away, I think it's
| too late. Unfortunately such services don't get a second
| chance.
|
| It was probably hard enough to convince them to try once.
| 7moritz7 wrote:
| FOSS just does not have the aggressive scaling mindset.
| Even success stories like Linux' game compatibility and
| Chromium can be traced to just regular tech companies, as
| opposed to non profits.
| MangoToupe wrote:
| > Their value is going to stay limited if people don't want
| to actually use them
|
| Nobody really _wants_ to use instagram either--there 's
| basically nothing positive to say about the app or service
| itself--it just has critical mass.
| renewiltord wrote:
| Is this the J D Power award for open source?
| gnatman wrote:
| the J D Great Responsibility award
| vvladi wrote:
| Video.edu.nl
| ekjhgkejhgk wrote:
| Is this run by the NL gov? I wish all govs would have something
| like this. Unfortunately gov are usually about 1 generation
| behind the state of the art in terms of understanding
| technology at any point in time.
| utopiah wrote:
| Yeay, checkout my instance, been running it for 5 years now!
| https://video.benetou.fr
| glenstein wrote:
| I've been wondering about "angles" to get interesting content on
| there. I wonder, for instance, if one could reach out to a bunch
| of bands and get permission for mirroring live show recordings on
| peertube and be off to the races.
| mfkp wrote:
| I host a simpler youtube alternative based on
| https://www.mediacms.io/
|
| It's not a perfect platform, but generally does well enough from
| my home server and a gigabit fiber connection.
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