[HN Gopher] Framework Sponsors CachyOS
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Framework Sponsors CachyOS
Author : d3Xt3r
Score : 106 points
Date : 2025-12-05 20:03 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| tristor wrote:
| This is great news, I migrated from vanilla Arch to CachyOS on my
| Framework 13 AMD a few months back since I primarily use it for
| Steam gaming, and it's worked great and netted me around 3fps on
| average across the games I play. I'm glad to see Framework
| supporting them directly.
| kachapopopow wrote:
| I recommend installing proton-catchyos for faster shader
| compilation as well, but you might run into stability issues if
| you are on an unstable overclock due to how hard it is able to
| push the cpu with intrinsics.
|
| Normal stress-ng I barely see 85 degrees while I saw shader
| compilation clock in 105c.
| unethical_ban wrote:
| I thought that got installed by default anyway
| kachapopopow wrote:
| me too, until I realized it was a completely independent
| thing that you can install on any distro
| tristor wrote:
| I am pretty sure this already got installed, but I will
| double-check. I got a nice speedup for shader compilation
| afterwards. I am not overclocking my Framework 13.
| kachapopopow wrote:
| it does not come pre-installed and you have to select it.
| nialv7 wrote:
| what changes did they make to make the shader compilation
| faster?
| kachapopopow wrote:
| it's compiled with similar optimizations as the kernel and
| has access to fast instrinsics (sse, avx)
| Rebelgecko wrote:
| How does it do with scaling? That's been one of my main pain
| points with different Linux distros on my Framework (well,
| that, the trackpad scroll speed, and battery life/suspension)
| whalesalad wrote:
| I just wiped my gaming rig (win11, 12700k, 7900xtx) and installed
| CachyOS a few days ago. KDE Plasma doesn't work, but Hyprland and
| Gnome do. I was playing Arc Raiders with a friend within an hour
| of starting the install. So far everything works, and it even
| sleeps and wakes without issue.
| Ocerge wrote:
| I did _exactly_ this 3 days ago after I hit a random keyboard
| chord on accident and brought up CoPilot (which I don't recall
| installing). I had held on to Windows for gaming just because I
| didn't want to fuss with Linux, but it was the straw that broke
| the camel's back. Instantly installed CachyOS onto a USB stick
| and formatted my entire drive.
|
| I use KDE Plasma and it worked just fine. In fact all of my
| games (including Arc Raiders) are working just fine on Proton
| 10, maybe running slightly worse. The only issue I've run into
| is getting battle.net working through Lutris; I ended up
| manually installing it through Proton 10 on Steam and it worked
| just fine. Wish I made the switch earlier.
| rdudek wrote:
| I got Battle.net working through Steam. The way I have it is
| I add the battle.net installer into steam, add proton
| compatibility, once you run it it installs, but next time you
| run it, it just opens the launcher unless it needs an update.
| Then you can install World of Warcraft and other games there
| and run.
|
| So far so good running CachyOS and KDE Plasma.
| belthesar wrote:
| Lutris by default will use an older WINE version (something
| based on WINE8 IIRC) by default for reasons I don't quite
| understand. You can, however, configure Lutris to use proton-
| cachyos by default, to which I was able to get Battle.net to
| install and work correctly without issues. Not sure what
| feature was implemented in later WINE to make that work
| better, but it works.
| honeycrispy wrote:
| I love KDE, but it's too buggy for me. About once a day the
| bottom dock would just disappear. I really wish they'd focus a
| little more on stability.
|
| I use Sway on CachyOS, and to me it's the perfect DE. Being
| able to switch between windows in under a quarter of a second
| indispensable once you've experienced it.
| whalesalad wrote:
| > switch between windows in under a quarter of a second
|
| I would hope so! 250ms is an extremely long time to switch
| windows.
| attendant3446 wrote:
| I've been using CachyOS with Plasma desktop for a long time
| now. Including my gaming PC. Zero problems. But I don't play
| any online games.
| dartharva wrote:
| You'd probably want to use an X11-based DE like Cinnamon
| instead, many games still don't play well with wayland.
| Kudos wrote:
| This has not been my experience. I've an Nvidia desktop and
| AMD HTPC, both running Wayland and a wide variety of games.
| What's more, they both do variable sync and HDR.
| syntaxing wrote:
| Wait, I swore Framework was on the sponsor list to begin with
| when I learned about CachyOS a couple days ago from HN
| cmeacham98 wrote:
| If it was just a few days ago, maybe they had already added the
| logo but hadn't posted the announcement yet?
| fwip wrote:
| Sounds plausible - looks like it wasn't there in October, but
| was there yesterday: https://web.archive.org/web/202500000000
| 00*/https://cachyos....
| bluecalm wrote:
| I am very happy to see it on HN today as I procrastinated half of
| my day reading about CachyOS, filesystems and then looking at
| Linux laptops including Framework. A laptop that's tested/shipped
| with CachyOS would be great. If only I could get a trackpoint/no
| touchpad version one day :)
| bronson wrote:
| They did look into putting a trackpoint in there, but there
| wasn't enough depth in the keyboard cover to support it. Making
| it work would take re-doing the whole bottom shell
| (apparently).
|
| I'm tempted to make a thicker bezel so the screen won't close
| all the way anymore. Pick up the room for a trackpoint by going
| wedge shaped! (edit, obvious downside: the screen would be a
| lot weaker when closed)
| Sleaker wrote:
| Dabbled in CachyOS as a replacement fo my main OS recently it
| worked well, was trying to do the omarchy on cachy for the kernel
| improvements but ended up bricking things when trying to update
| so ended up swapping to omarchy mainline. I am seriously
| considering swapping back over to cachyos though, seems like it's
| going in the right direction.
| huntercaron wrote:
| Was also looking to see if that was possible recently. Wonder
| if either party would consider supporting that officially?
| eek2121 wrote:
| I'm enjoying CachyOS so far. I've been running it for a while
| without issue.
| tomega2134 wrote:
| It completely blew up for me as well (unbootable) during an
| update that included the linux-firmware package split from
| earlier this year. Fortunately this occurred during a testing
| period in a VM.
| heavyset_go wrote:
| It was an Arch-wide thing, there was an announcement on their
| site about it.
| k_bx wrote:
| How is project like Framework Laptop able to sponsor anyone? Are
| they profitable? Had an impression they're more of a startup
| stage project far from profitability.
| jsheard wrote:
| They've raised about $45M in venture capital to date. I don't
| think they are profitable yet, but they at least have other
| people's money to throw around for now.
| ignoramous wrote:
| > _They raised about $45M in venture capital_
|
| Impressive for a hardware upstart (which are usually
| relatively capital intensive), no?
|
| > _at least have other people 's money to throw around for
| now._
|
| Speaking of other people's money... Framework's been
| sponsoring many a project, some of which are controversial on
| their forums: https://community.frame.work/t/framework-
| supporting-far-righ...
| sudobash1 wrote:
| It looks a little bit like a tempest in a teapot to me, but
| I'm impressed with their community guidelines. That thread
| got an exception to allow for more discussion, and it even
| permits "Critiques of Framework as a company" and "Calls
| for boycotts or product criticism".
|
| https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-
| righ...
| bee_rider wrote:
| Nice, they will probably be able to buy like 128GB of ram in
| 2026.
| gclawes wrote:
| I think drumming up interest in getting users to run Linux on
| frameworks is a way for them to go back to vendors and try to
| get them to fix issues like power consumption that bugs the
| hell out of users (looking at you AMD)
| WhyNotHugo wrote:
| Framework is a not a huge organisation. This sponsorship
| consists of a few laptops and committing to a $250 monthly
| donation. There's no contradiction here. CachyOS is also not a
| huge project.
| k_bx wrote:
| Thanks, it makes at least some sense then. I'd expect them to
| sponsor Omarchy similarly then, in my twittersphere that made
| way more noise lately
| jsheard wrote:
| Even leaving aside the (IMO justified) controversy
| surrounding Omarchys creator, surely there are better ways
| to allocate OSS funding than sponsoring a multi-millionaire
| executives pet project. He can afford to bankroll it
| himself.
| preisschild wrote:
| > in my twittersphere that made way more noise lately
|
| Its because while CachyOS does novel things, Omarchy is
| basically just an opinionated Arch Linux install script
| made from a racist. Thats why some people mistrust the
| intention from Framework.
| k_bx wrote:
| Some people mistrust the intention from Framework because
| Omarchy is made by a racist?
| pella wrote:
| https://frame.work/hu/en/blog/framework-sponsorships
| dangus wrote:
| I think they are doing quite well, the CEO mentioned in a town
| hall video somewhere that they have strongest growth in the
| business segment where there are a lot of buyers who like the
| idea of a computer that their IT department can repair.
|
| I also don't think these project sponsorships cost a whole lot
| in the grand scheme of things. I imagine they are basically
| part of the marketing budget.
|
| When one of your main customer targets is Linux users, spending
| 5 figures on sponsoring a Linux project might be more effective
| than spending 5 figures on ad impressions.
| preisschild wrote:
| Yeah, I recommended we buy Framework Laptops for the Linux
| users in my company and we are quite happy with it.
|
| I imagine I'm not the only one doing that.
| pixelpoet wrote:
| Me and a buddy have bought 3 Framework Desktops between us,
| they are just otherworldly awesome machines, and a good bit
| more expensive than the other Strix Halo models. I haven't been
| this excited about a computer since my i7 920 (Nehalem) in
| 2008, it's absolute alien technology.
|
| I've also finally made the switch from a lifetime of Windows to
| Linux, and it just so happened to be CachyOS. The snappiness is
| just infinitely refreshing, to say nothing of not constantly
| submitting to Microsoft's dark patterns, so I'm super happy to
| see this news <3 Go Framework and AMD, go CachyOS and Linux!
|
| Poll: Can Microsoft gargle my whole balls?
|
| [A] Yes.
|
| [B] Maybe later.
|
| Now, if you'll excuse me, I have the rest of the month to spend
| on vacation in my pyjamas coding ultra high precision N-body
| simulations and rendering them in 8K 60Hz entirely on CPU:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz1Od_jkkFg
| paxys wrote:
| > Framework has not only provided us with a Framework Laptop 16
| to help us optimize our kernel and packages on modern hardware,
| but they have also committed to a $250 monthly donation.
|
| I'm gonna guess a laptop and a few thousand dollars (over
| years) isn't exactly breaking the bank.
| Cyao wrote:
| Hope this doesn't end up political... Last time the entire
| Framework Discord's mod team went on strike because of a
| controversial sponsorship, and ended with the closure of the
| discord.
| akimbostrawman wrote:
| >ended with the closure of the discord
|
| oh no anyways. Discord user and there mods are probably the
| last people anybody in the FOSS or real world should care about
| or associate with.
| Cyao wrote:
| Sometimes Discord is still pretty helpful with real-time
| support. It indeed has its flaws, but some of the best real
| time help is still given there. I love the C++ discord, it's
| just filled with gems.
| akimbostrawman wrote:
| >it's just filled with gems
|
| gems not sorted or indexed at all gated behind a account
| requiring personal information to just view them.
| bitwize wrote:
| Maybe things like that wouldn't happen if Framework didn't
| sponsor fascists.
| rickdg wrote:
| More specifically, sponsoring a white suprematist.
| Saline9515 wrote:
| But are his opinions relevant here? Do you ask the
| political opinions of everyone you work with?
| akimbostrawman wrote:
| >Do you ask the political opinions of everyone you work
| with
|
| they are the HR of IT ofc they do a ideological sniff
| test on anybody they even so much as talk to. Can't have
| anybody disagreeing in this tolerant space.
| meibo wrote:
| If someone at work was writing blog posts with white-
| supremacist code, then yes, I would probably go to HR and
| they would probably get in trouble. Maybe they wouldn't
| be fired, but they would be placed on another team. And
| then the people on that team would find the blog posts,
| and the same thing would happen, and they would probably
| be let go at some point.
|
| Because people that do that type of thing usually cannot
| shut up about it.
| DetroitThrow wrote:
| Wow, didn't realize they were sponsoring white supremacists.
| I've bought a framework 13 in the past and believe in their
| mission, but I don't think I can continue being a customer.
| Oh well.
| dangus wrote:
| This is what the people who are against "cancel culture"
| are trying to say (although, a lot of those people are
| still wrong and suck for other reasons): you basically got
| brief, out of context second-hand information and
| immediately jumped to the conclusion to boycott this
| company.
|
| I think it's worth reading what the CEO has to say about
| it: https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-
| far-righ...
|
| Personally I don't get the impression that Framework is
| endorsing a particular view, nor are they directly
| sponsoring a specific individual or their views.
|
| It becomes even more difficult when most of these open
| source projects aren't a one-person endeavor, even if they
| happen to have a single individual at the helm.
| saghm wrote:
| I hadn't heard about this before, so in case anyone else is
| also curious and wants to save some googling, it sounds like
| was a few months ago when they sponsored Hyprland[1]. I hadn't
| heard about controversy with Hyprland before, only being
| vaguely aware of it, but the forum thread I linked to further
| links to this blog post[2] with more details.
|
| [1]: https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-
| righ... [2]: https://drewdevault.com/2023/09/17/Hyprland-
| toxicity.html
| akimbostrawman wrote:
| drewdevault should be the last person anybody uses as a judge
| of character or facts
|
| https://dmpwn.info/
| preisschild wrote:
| I have more of an Issue with the Omarchy sponsorship. While i
| disagree with Hyprland's maintainer at least Hyprland is
| actually engineering something great and making it free
| software. Omarchy is basically just a script.
| zbuttram wrote:
| Not a fan of either but I feel obligated to point out they
| don't appear to be sponsoring Omarchy, they just posted
| about it on their social media account(s). Hyprland they
| actually did do a small sponsorship for.
| jsheard wrote:
| Yeah I think there might be a mixup with Cloudflare, who
| _are_ sponsoring Omarchy.
| lousken wrote:
| hopefully those people already left last time
| whalesalad wrote:
| Nothing of value was lost. Discord is the worst way to engage
| with any kind of serious community. It's a firehose of
| prematurely fired off messages, badges, emojis, banners, nitro
| upgrades, flags. Threading sucks. Ten conversations are usually
| happening at once. It's like if you had a 100gig connection to
| the WAL of 4chan plugged directly into your brain. It's no
| wonder kids these days are all autistic or ADHD.
| rPlayer6554 wrote:
| Very interesting that Valve and Framework seem to be throwing
| their eggs in the Arch basket over Debian/Ubuntu. When I got my
| first computer, I installed Ubuntu because it was dominant. Maybe
| it still is for the average Linux downloader, but why are the
| Hardware companies more into Arch?
| nickorlow wrote:
| I'd think it's because they're introducing updates to address
| issues w/ the hardware quickly and want a rolling-release
| distro so users can get the updates faster.
| vitorsr wrote:
| Debian testing is about as stable as it gets while also being
| a rolling distribution. The promotion of package updates from
| unstable to testing does not take that long either depending
| on the severity. I would venture a guess that there is more
| to it.
| vitorsr wrote:
| > over Debian/Ubuntu
|
| And over Fedora/RHEL. If I had to guess, it could be that new
| entrants find it easier to submit changes to Arch Linux
| packages [1]. ChromeOS also steered away from Debian-based
| distributions, choosing a Gentoo base.
|
| [1] https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages
| Bolwin wrote:
| They're not though. They're supporting debian and bazzite
| which is fedora based and have worked with fedora
| extensively. See https://frame.work/de/en/blog/framework-
| sponsorships
| preisschild wrote:
| Personally I'd also think it would be a better engineering
| choice for Valve to base SteamOS on Fedora Atomic, as it
| supports the immutable OS paradigm a lot better imo. Especially
| now with progress in bootc/oci/ostree.
| crowcroft wrote:
| If only Arch supported Arm.
| OsrsNeedsf2P wrote:
| I run Arch Linux on my M1, is that not arm?
| whatevaa wrote:
| Core arch linux doesn't support it, it's an offshoot.
| listic wrote:
| Funny thing, taking into account the state of affairs in the
| country: CachyOS mirror for Russia is https://archlinux.gay
|
| (I am Russian; left the country in 2022)
| af_arc wrote:
| No Omartchy?
| konmok wrote:
| Framework also forcibly shut down the community discussion about
| their controversial sponsorship of Omarchy, and are quietly
| funneling even more money to DHH through sponsorship of Rails
| World.
|
| They haven't taken any responsibility or even acknowledged the
| community's concerns about this.
|
| While I'm happy that CachyOS is getting funding, I don't feel
| like I can trust Framework any longer, and I don't recommend
| buying from them - this kind of behavior is a pretty typical
| early warning sign for enshittification.
| antonkochubey wrote:
| Can you provide a first-party source for Framework sponsoring
| Omarchy?
| konmok wrote:
| Sponsorship doesn't just mean money. Check their twitter
| account, they did a LOT of publicity for Omarchy and DHH.
|
| https://xcancel.com/FrameworkPuter/status/194483904718221319.
| ..
|
| And, of course, their (financial) sponsorship of Rails World
| is public.
| aidenn0 wrote:
| I'm pretty sure it was Hyprland, not Omarchy that caused the
| controversy (partly because AFAICT they don't sponser Omarchy).
|
| They tweeted about Omarchy, but I don't expect companies to do
| background checks for tweets...
| konmok wrote:
| It was both. And sure, I don't expect that either for a one-
| off tweet. This wasn't a one-off tweet.
|
| Also, if it was a simple mistake, why not write a tiny
| apology and acknowledgement?
| efficax wrote:
| Everything is "blazingly fast" now. What does it even mean.
| OsrsNeedsf2P wrote:
| Start menu loads in under 250ms seconds
| desireco42 wrote:
| Oh man, now another distro will be labeled nazi... just not that,
| oh no :) haha!
|
| I love Omarchy, I am sure Cachy is great, just don't feel the
| need to change much of anything.
| Dwedit wrote:
| What exactly does sponsoring CachyOS mean? Bandwidth and hosting?
| Money going upstream to the actual developers who make the
| packages?
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