[HN Gopher] The long wait is over, Ganymede has arrived
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The long wait is over, Ganymede has arrived
Author : doener
Score : 27 points
Date : 2025-11-29 23:57 UTC (4 days ago)
(HTM) web link (endeavouros.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (endeavouros.com)
| aaroninsf wrote:
| Posts like this would much benefit from a terse statement of
| context.
|
| I've been waiting a long time for us to explore the moon.
|
| I haven't been waiting for an Arch distro to release... whatever
| this is.
| brson wrote:
| I also clicked through a few times trying to get a clear
| description of what this is with no success.
| egypturnash wrote:
| "Start your Endeavour with a lightweight Arch-based, terminal
| centric system ready to personalise and a stellar community
| at your side"
|
| - the front page of the site
| debugnik wrote:
| Rephrasing, Endeavour is _something_ that is started with a
| terminal system based on Arch.
|
| I know that's a cheesy way to say it's an Arch distro but I
| hope you notice how poor the phrasing is for someone trying
| to understand what they've been linked to.
| ordersofmag wrote:
| The multiple meanings of many of the words in this sentence
| make it really poor at communicating what the site is
| about. "Endeavour" (with a capital 'E') is a proper name I
| associate with a space shuttle, and 'stellar' can mean
| 'having to do with stars'. So a first read for me leads to
| the conclusion that this site has something to do with
| space flight. And 'system' could mean almost anything.
| Maybe this site will let me personalize my own star system?
| All I can take away is that I'm not sure what this is, but
| clearly I'm not the target audience. Which I'm fine
| with.....
| whizzter wrote:
| Agreed, I was wondering what an old Eclipse IDE version
| (Ganymede) was something people were waiting for?
| zdragnar wrote:
| I was confused myself, if only because when I saw Ganymede my
| first thought was the Eclipse release back in 2008.
|
| I know I'm young enough to be too young to complain about
| getting old, but I still feel like I'm getting old every so
| often.
| Rooster61 wrote:
| +1
| madcaptenor wrote:
| I thought this too. But if there was a probe sent out to
| Ganymede wouldn't we have arrived at it? If Ganymede (the moon)
| is arriving at Earth we have a whole other set of problems.
| lifeisstillgood wrote:
| I just realised I have been thinking about OSS funding the wrong
| way around
|
| It's not "the world economy depends on this stuff why is it not
| properly funded" (which is true) it's "never before has a coupe
| of guys or girls in a garage been able to reach so many people,
| and stand a chance of getting funding"
|
| The troubles people have finding ways to make a living whilst
| providing value to people suggests something is wrong not with
| them but the economy
| whizzter wrote:
| The problem is the arbitrary way the funding is allocated, find
| something interesting to companies du jour with a clear path to
| funding and you're golden.
|
| If whatever OSS is too obscure to be noticed by non-techies but
| still fundamental (think OpenSSL, libxz,etc) it's more likely
| to lead to burnout far before anyone wants to put in any sane
| money (curl is one of few counter-examples but that hasn't had
| a straight journey).
| VikingCoder wrote:
| If you're making a product, I think Kickstarter is awesome.
|
| If you're making entertainment, I think Patreon is awesome.
|
| If you're making OSS... I'm not sure we have a good system. Buy
| Me A Coffee or a TipJar... Starring a repository... They're
| good... but they're not enough.
|
| Upvoting on Hacker News whenever I see something promising is
| another thing I do that I hope might help...
|
| I kind of wish I could subscribe to some monthly payment that
| tracked my usage of OSS, and sent each a fraction of the money,
| and that they appraised which systems they depended on, so it
| flowed down to them, too, and etc...
| 0x1ch wrote:
| I've donated quite a bit through the Kofi and Tipjar payment
| systems for neat OSS apps I use. I agree that it's not
| enough, however we do have other systems in place via Github
| sponsorships, Patreon (consistent funding), etc.
|
| It's up for the community to adopt those platforms for their
| project
| fragmede wrote:
| I like where you're going. I'm intrigued! but what would it
| look like? For example, curl. I use curl it's awesome. I love
| it. It's not at a level where I'm going to go to community
| meet ups for it though, but I'm super happy it exists. I can
| buy stickers for my laptop and do free advertising?
|
| It's all psychological. If curl had a micropayment system and
| every time you used it, it cost a 10th of a penny and there's
| a monthly subscription. Oh God, holy hell, no! But at the
| same time, I don't want Daniel Stenberg to go hungry.
| fragmede wrote:
| or maybe that's a direction to go towards. Similar to
| Spotify wrapped, someone else made a thing to go through
| your bash history and say what your popular things were.
| VikingCoder wrote:
| I'm thinking more about a subscription to a monthly fee
| that you and I and other fans of OSS voluntarily pay.
|
| Say, I pay $10 a month. It figures out I used curl 850
| times. I used gunzip 1246 times. And etc.
|
| It may turn out that I'm donating a 10th of a penny to curl
| every time I use it.
|
| Do I want to commit to donating a 10th of a penny BEFORE I
| can use curl each time?
|
| No.
|
| But if I set a flat rate of donating to OSS - $10 a month -
| and there were a simple tool that figured out a semi-
| reasonable way to allocate that money... I think that'd be
| neat.
|
| Like, "Steam for Donating to OSS."
| all2 wrote:
| The tracking app would be pretty simple. A shim in the
| shell that tracks the first argument on the command line
| and increments a counter. Then usage stats are pushed to
| the service every 24 hours (or something like that).
|
| app usage / all tracked app usage --> donation to app.
|
| Handling the payments portion would be... nightmarish?
|
| With crypto it would be really easy. I'd be tempted to
| take cash on the frontend, convert to crypto, split, then
| reconvert to cash and make payouts.
|
| How do we handle registering apps that you use? What
| about upstream dependencies? Example: you just spun up a
| new React project, do we target all deps on that project?
| Is this only for command line? What about cron jobs, or
| systemd? Or that systemd service script you copied from a
| gist somewhere?
| VikingCoder wrote:
| I wonder if some weird kind of aggregation could go on.
|
| At the end of the month, I'm told to donate my entire $10
| to some obscure tool I've never even heard of.
|
| The system did all of the tracking, across all users, and
| then figured out how to assign users like me to projects,
| such that I'm only donating once or twice ($6 to this
| project, and $4 to that project.)
|
| The system I propose does all of the counting, all of the
| aggregating, matching intended donations to the
| recipients, and then encourages me to do my actual
| gifting...
|
| Seems possible, but weird. Or maybe we need to set up a
| non-profit to do all this money laundering^W^W donating.
| mvdtnz wrote:
| There's no context but from what I can tell this is a Linux
| distro release and the main line items for improvements are
| improved nvidia and broadcom driver handling. Not exactly the
| most thrilling release to hit the HN front page.
| basch wrote:
| its #5 on distrowatch, and #2 of arch variants.
|
| hn should be a place where you can post niche things, and come
| to the comments or click through if you are out of the loop.
| mvdtnz wrote:
| I did click through, you can see my findings in the comment
| you responded to.
| basch wrote:
| I consider "Yes, we know it has been a long time since we
| released an ISO refresh" fairly adequate context.
|
| This release may not be giant compared to the last release,
| but its the first ISO refresh in a while. So its two
| different "upgrades."
| gosub100 wrote:
| I recently tried this distro on my raspberry pi and it was
| awesome.
| obloid wrote:
| I recently put Endeavour with KDE on an old laptop (c. 2013).
| It runs great. Much snappier than it ever did with windows.
| Great distro.
| gosub100 wrote:
| I put an m.2 SSD on my Pi and dropped in an Intel optane 16gb
| SSD for $10 on eBay. Its definitely snappy
| embeng4096 wrote:
| I just switched to EndeavourOS for 95% of my home computer needs
| last week (I left my Windows install on a separate drive for
| gaming and especially those that require super invasive
| anticheat, e.g. AAA multiplayer FPS) and it has been a wonderful
| experience so far.
| leeoniya wrote:
| after trying multiple distros 6 years ago to replace the
| enshittified Windows 8/10 [1], ended up at EndeavourOS + KDE.
| there is very little i miss about Windows. maybe Foobar2000.
|
| amazing distro.
|
| [1] after it messed up my linux dual boot config, continuously
| reset my registry tweaks with forced updates / restarts, insisted
| on re-enabling the io-destroying Defender, and started force-
| feeding me ads
| chuckadams wrote:
| foobar2000 runs great under Wine.
| nine_k wrote:
| Not a complete replacement for Foobar2000, but you might want
| to take a look at Quodlibet, which has many of the important
| niceties, and also is good at metainfo handling, where
| Foobar2000 shines especially.
| Barrin92 wrote:
| >We still love what we do over here, but we all have chosen to
| let our lives and loved ones come first over the project
|
| I think that's sensible but from a user perspective it's also why
| I think these nth degree derivatives are pointless. So much
| infrastructure and maintenance to effectively ship arch with a
| wallpaper.
|
| Many of these projects eventually go the way of the dodo, I
| believe this is in itself a successor to Antergos. Just install
| Arch, Debian or Fedora and take 10 minutes to configure the
| desktop. The biggest issue with arch was the setup but they ship
| a TUI install script now that anyone can use. The OS on your
| computer shouldn't be a hobby project.
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