[HN Gopher] Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground
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       Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground
        
       Author : todsacerdoti
       Score  : 446 points
       Date   : 2025-11-30 03:54 UTC (19 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (zigtools.org)
        
       | wavemode wrote:
       | original submission dicussion:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45947810
        
       | darshanime wrote:
       | since zig is famously decentralized, i don't think there is a way
       | to effectively combat bad actors like these? there is no
       | "official zig org" that can disown them
        
         | IncreasePosts wrote:
         | In a decentralized but communicating community, this kind of
         | post is raising awareness, and then the others in the community
         | will make their own choices regarding the matter.
        
         | pa7ch wrote:
         | Its the opposite in my understanding. Zig has a BDFL.
         | 
         | Trademarks are the usual cudgel of choice to enforce a bad
         | actor claiming to be part of offcial Zig.
        
           | testdelacc1 wrote:
           | But he isn't. He's just writing an AI slop book about Zig.
           | Surely there's nothing legally wrong with that? He never said
           | it's an official book or backed by the Zig project.
           | 
           | The trademark cudgel is used on people who release an
           | incompatible language that they insist on calling Zig,
           | confusing people who want to try Zig. Or people who add
           | malware to the Zig tool chain and try to distribute that.
           | 
           | Trademark can't be used to control bad actors like zigbook.
        
             | lenkite wrote:
             | > Surely there's nothing legally wrong with that?
             | 
             | Incorrect. Not honoring the attribution requirement in the
             | MIT license is a copyright infringement because it violates
             | the terms of the license, which are legally enforceable
             | conditions.
        
               | testdelacc1 wrote:
               | We are specifically talking about what the Zig
               | project/foundation headed by Andy Kelley can do to such
               | bad actors using the Zig trademark - which is exactly
               | nothing.
               | 
               | I wouldn't be so quick with the "incorrect" if I were
               | you. You haven't even taken the trouble to read two
               | sentences.
        
               | lenkite wrote:
               | > I wouldn't be so quick with the "incorrect" if I were
               | you. You haven't even taken the trouble to read two
               | sentences.
               | 
               | I wouldn't be so quick with the dismissal if I were you.
               | You haven't even taken the trouble to read the article.
               | 
               | Also, _Quad erat demonstrandum_ - the infringing repo no
               | longer exists.
        
             | pa7ch wrote:
             | Mm thats a good point. I'm not entirely clear on the limits
             | of trademarks in this case. Its Zigbook rather then Zig.
        
               | testdelacc1 wrote:
               | I read a lot about this when Rust was considering
               | adopting a trademark policy. The main use cases for
               | enforcing the trademark were
               | 
               | - preventing someone who hardforked the project from
               | creating an incompatible language while using the same
               | name.
               | 
               | - preventing someone from distributing malware while
               | still using the same name.
               | 
               | Because if you notice, neither of these clash with the
               | MIT license that many languages use. You need to enforce
               | your trademark to stop this kind of behaviour.
               | 
               | Zigbook can argue that they aren't causing any confusion
               | between themselves and the Zig language. The Zig
               | foundation could argue that the name implies an
               | endorsement by the project and they should call
               | themselves _The Unofficial Zig Book_ instead. I don't
               | know which way it goes.
        
       | do_not_redeem wrote:
       | I wonder what tools the Zig team has to deal with trolls like
       | this.
       | 
       | Is the zig name or logo trademarked? What about the mascot he's
       | using as his github picture?
       | 
       | They're violating the terms of the MIT license as mentioned in
       | the article, so maybe Zigtools has legal standing.
       | 
       | As for lying about no AI, being an asshole isn't illegal, so no
       | angle there.
       | 
       | Any other ideas I missed?
        
         | bragr wrote:
         | Lying potentially opens up fraud angles if they are soliciting
         | or receiving something of value. Maybe false advertising even
         | they are giving it away for free. A lot of this will depend on
         | who has jurisdiction
        
       | wyldfire wrote:
       | Plagiarism is a moral wrong.
       | 
       | But copyright infringement is a legal wrong (a civil liability).
       | 
       | Is what they're doing infringing on a copyrighted work? Or does
       | it fail to uphold license terms? Many open source licenses have
       | some amount of attribution as a requirement, so that'd be
       | something to consider.
        
         | bjt wrote:
         | It's addressed in the post. MIT license. Zigbook is not
         | honoring the attribution requirement. A PR to change that was
         | closed and obfuscated.
        
           | anonnon wrote:
           | > Zigbook is not honoring the attribution requirement
           | 
           | It's crazy how many people treat MIT as if it were public
           | domain.
        
             | adrian17 wrote:
             | This probably depends on country, but AFAIK in most of
             | europe, even in public domain, the ,,you can't pass
             | another's work as your own" part of copyright is still
             | active and doesn't expire.
        
               | poly2it wrote:
               | This piques my interest, what is the legally required
               | recognition of a derivative's parent work? Must I be able
               | to list dependencies, or should I be able to verify
               | whether a parent work is included in mine? What if my
               | work is a second derivative of a work which I am unaware
               | of, because the work in between improperly didn't
               | recognise its parent? Am I legally responsible to
               | investigate such cases?
        
               | projektfu wrote:
               | Something like, " _Pride and Prejudice and Zombies_ , by
               | Jane Austen and Seth Grahame-Smith" is probably
               | sufficient.
        
             | Zambyte wrote:
             | I genuinely believe more people violate permissive licenses
             | than copyleft license. I have no data to back this up, but
             | just look at how much people focused on if LLMs were
             | violating the GPL by reproducing code covered by the GPL
             | without reproducing the license. If LLMs violate the GPL,
             | they violate all licenses besides ones that are effectively
             | public domain.
        
         | lenkite wrote:
         | AI is actually beginning to encourage "restricted source",
         | public-only-gets-binary debates to simply avoid such legal
         | issues.
         | 
         | Write a snail-mail letter to get the real sources. Repositories
         | are private with a small well-vetted list of contributors. Also
         | avoid slop-PR headaches that away.
        
           | femiagbabiaka wrote:
           | If you were licensing MIT, ostensibly it's not the copying
           | you care about, just the attribution. There is always the
           | option to turn off prs, or even distribute code without using
           | github.
        
             | mtndew4brkfst wrote:
             | GitHub has never allowed public repos to disable PRs in
             | particular. There's no setting for that.
        
               | femiagbabiaka wrote:
               | It's not directly possible, no, but with branch
               | protection rules and this Github action it is trivial to
               | set up: https://github.com/dessant/repo-lockdown
        
           | tliltocatl wrote:
           | Sorry, this sounds like the absolutely worst idea ever. The
           | way to kill open source as such. Sloppy PRs will end when the
           | idiot HRs release there is no value in them. Plagiarism isn't
           | really anything new and AI doesn't really change much there.
           | But adding friction to examining source is a sure way to make
           | no one care to contribute.
        
             | bigfishrunning wrote:
             | Honest question, what are "HR"s? I only know that acronym
             | for "Human Resources" and I don't understand how that has
             | anything to do with code contribution
        
       | kachapopopow wrote:
       | I just can't get over how ridicioulus the "no ai" statement is.
       | 
       | I really love the part where llm.txt has the same notice,
       | something humans will never read, or the fact that llm.txt exists
       | considering that there is distaste for AI in every part of this
       | llm generated book.
        
         | booleandilemma wrote:
         | "Not generated by AI" is something that every programmer
         | everywhere is going to say about their own work, even when it's
         | obviously AI generated. I've started to publicly call people
         | out when I see they've posted something on social media
         | (LinkedIn, etc.) when I see they've made an AI-generated post.
         | The fraud has to stop.
        
           | lillecarl wrote:
           | There's also the option of embracing it.
           | 
           | https://github.com/Lillecarl/lix/commit/9ac72bbd0c7802ca83a9.
           | ..
           | 
           | I'm not ashamed to use AI if it improves my output, people
           | draw the line of "acceptable use" differently just like drug
           | addicts talk shit about each other's drugs to justify their
           | own. I think honesty is more important than cleanliness.
        
           | nurettin wrote:
           | I stopped using linkedin once the mediapipe epidemic started
           | and everyone who could type pip install mediapipe could write
           | a half baked hand and face gesture demo to show themselves as
           | the "cool programmer".
        
           | pjmlp wrote:
           | Kind of hard unfortunately, now when one gets evaluated how
           | much we're improving our daily work with AI, when the annual
           | feedback meeting comes.
           | 
           | The no AI devs will get a "needs improvement" report.
        
             | kachapopopow wrote:
             | I've talked to people who got fired for not embracing AI,
             | so go out there and say how much more productive you are
             | even if it's a lie.
        
         | otabdeveloper4 wrote:
         | > I just can't get over how ridicioulus the "no ai" statement
         | is
         | 
         | You don't have to. I'm sure there are lots of other communities
         | that welcome low-effort slop with no effort put into it.
        
         | omoikane wrote:
         | The "no AI" statement reminds me of the Chinese idiom: "there
         | are no 300 taels of silver here" (there is no money buried
         | here). It's a clumsy way of denying something.
         | 
         | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E6%AD%A4%E5%9C%B0%E7%84%A1%E...
        
       | gnarlouse wrote:
       | Had a conversation with the Zigbook maintainer. It's either a
       | young kid or somebody that has some serious growing up to do.
       | Just generally weird behavior.
        
         | ayhanfuat wrote:
         | Indeed: @zigbook changed the title "Fix license violations" "Im
         | mad because you wrote code similiar to mine >:(" 3 minutes ago
         | (https://github.com/zigbook/zigbook/pull/43)
        
           | vintagedave wrote:
           | Wow. It's also an extremely reasonable pull request, here's
           | the only commit: https://github.com/zigbook/zigbook/compare/m
           | ain...SuperAugus...
        
             | arp242 wrote:
             | I could _sort of_ understand it if the PR used all sorts of
             | judgemental /accusatory language or something. But it
             | doesn't; it's straight-forward and factual. Outright
             | bizarre behaviour.
        
             | ikari_pl wrote:
             | help us, it's gone
        
               | ajifurai wrote:
               | Original commit: https://github.com/SuperAuguste/zigbook/
               | commit/8cc9edd35b3e3...
        
             | doe88 wrote:
             | I really loved this PR, very fair, appropriate, sensible,
             | proportionated; masterpiece! Could easily be used as
             | example in all _git commit_ writing guides around (half-
             | joking).
        
           | gnarlouse wrote:
           | At one point they added a "R******D COMPLAINT" (censored for
           | HN) ticket sticker to... idk, oppose AI-use accusations?
           | Somebody seemingly talked them down from it though. Just
           | bizarre. Like watching a midlife crisis through GitHub
           | issues.
        
       | koolala wrote:
       | Playground wise, is Zigs wasm compiler able to compile out simd
       | wasm in the browser? I'm trying to find the best languages that
       | can. So far it's just assemblyscript and c/c++ and their
       | compilers are big.
        
         | lioeters wrote:
         | I haven't dug deep but it seems Zig's Wasm target does support
         | SIMD.
         | 
         | > WebAssembly portable SIMD intrinsics
         | 
         | https://codeberg.org/ziglang/zig/src/branch/master/lib/inclu...
        
           | koolala wrote:
           | The issue is I think that code is based on LLVM and and I am
           | not sure the self-hosted Zig compiler that runs well in Wasm
           | can do it.
        
       | nmilo wrote:
       | I remember reading the original zig book post and how weird it
       | smelt. Even though it's LLM written there's more than a trivial
       | amount of effort put into it. What could anyone possibly have to
       | gain by doing this?
        
       | vanous wrote:
       | @Zigtools:
       | 
       | Thank you for your educative post, letting the community know.
       | 
       | Don't let it to drag you down in any way. This is emotionally
       | draining and takes away motivation, but keep going.
        
       | lillecarl wrote:
       | https://github.com/zigbook/zigbook/pull/45#issuecomment-3592...
       | Would this be grounds to report zigbook to GitHub maybe? This is
       | wild
        
         | SSLy wrote:
         | zigbook edited a 3rd party comment to say "I'm autistic and
         | sperging out over stuff on the internet that doesn't actually
         | matter. Don't mind me."
         | 
         | Just your run off the mill AI grifter.
         | 
         | EDIT:
         | https://lobste.rs/s/pbn3zy/zigbook_learn_zig_programming_lan...
         | 
         | "Quick research - author's actual profile is
         | https://github.com/zk-evm, and he's a potential scammer from
         | crypto spaces, who also happens to be running fake GitHub
         | Organisation of the Cursor editor, along with related
         | BuyMeACoffee claiming it being official page of the "Cursor AI
         | Editor"."
        
           | KomoD wrote:
           | > Quick research - author's actual profile is
           | https://github.com/zk-evm
           | 
           | The account is called zig-vm now.
           | 
           | And here's his real github account:
           | https://github.com/gweidart
        
             | jamesbelchamber wrote:
             | How did you connect this account back to the "real"
             | account?
        
               | CGamesPlay wrote:
               | Well, the name of the "real" account is "zkevm.dev", and
               | the previous account was zk-evm. Those are just letters
               | to me, but it does seem like a clear link. Couldn't say
               | that either is "real", though.
        
               | csomar wrote:
               | It is not. zk-evm refers to a type of blockchain. It's
               | not a unique/singular link.
        
               | KomoD wrote:
               | "zkevm.dev" is his domain, he uses it for email on all 3
               | accounts.
        
               | speedgoose wrote:
               | The account had a link to a personal website, that (for
               | now) has links to a few social medias and the "real"
               | account.
        
               | jamesbelchamber wrote:
               | That's a pretty strong link, nice work!
        
             | Chris2048 wrote:
             | An old version of a related contact page: https://web.archi
             | ve.org/web/20250320001430/https://gweidart....
             | 
             | lists as a donation link:
             | https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/Newcomer214
             | 
             | So, gweidart is probably this guy:
             | https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandon-newcomer-7275aa228/
        
           | RestartKernel wrote:
           | That's mostly just odd. Either a young teen way in over their
           | head or a weirdly non-functional adult.
        
         | Crestwave wrote:
         | Oh wow. Your original comment is pretty darn prophetic.
        
         | slacktivism123 wrote:
         | >Would this be grounds to report zigbook to GitHub maybe?
         | 
         | 100%.
         | 
         | https://docs.github.com/en/communities/maintaining-your-safe...
        
         | nusl wrote:
         | Grifter or not, editing user comments to make it look like
         | they're saying something they're not isn't okay.
         | 
         | Edit: It appears that the repo is gone? User removed it or
         | GitHub?
        
           | lillecarl wrote:
           | I reported it to Github, supplied links to the edits and to
           | this HN thread. The canned response was:
           | 
           | "Our review of the account(s) and/or content named in your
           | report has concluded. We have determined that one or more
           | violations of GitHub's Terms of Service have occurred and
           | have taken appropriate action in response."
           | 
           | It took 2h40m, genuinely impressed how quick the turnaround
           | was :)
        
         | p1nkpineapple wrote:
         | your other PR made me laugh:
         | https://github.com/zigbook/zigbook/pull/46 absolutely wild that
         | they had the gall to report you, lol
        
         | SSLy wrote:
         | Fear not I've mirrored it
         | https://web.archive.org/web/20251130091635/https%3A%2F%2Fgit...
        
           | ffsm8 wrote:
           | Sadly the important information, what was actually edited,
           | isn't part of that mirror. (It's async fetched by the ui when
           | clicking on the edit information on GitHub)
        
             | SSLy wrote:
             | it's said something to paraphrase "I wonder what antisocial
             | behaviour will be seen next instead of dealing with the
             | feedback"
        
         | keyle wrote:
         | The whole thing looks very childish, I'm not sure I even fully
         | understand the conversation of #43. Are they troll accounts?
        
       | blks wrote:
       | And now it's made private.
        
       | nusl wrote:
       | Repo seems to be gone? User action or GitHub action?
       | 
       | Regardless, for visibility as to maybe-why this happened, here
       | are screenshots of the user editing comments to insult/make them
       | say something they never did;
       | 
       | https://imgur.com/a/LsvBXY1
       | 
       | https://web.archive.org/web/20251130091635/https://github.co...
       | 
       | The tool itself claims "Zero AI" (https://www.zigbook.net/) yet
       | is very obviously A-Lot-AI.
        
         | mcintyre1994 wrote:
         | I find GitHub to be very prompt and responsive to abuse
         | reports, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was them if people
         | reported the comments etc.
        
         | Meneth wrote:
         | The only public repo remaining under their github account is
         | this VSCode-Copilot integration tool
         | (https://github.com/zigbook/pilot).
        
           | Zambyte wrote:
           | It seems their whole account is gone now.
        
         | NoteyComplexity wrote:
         | The responds and edits are simply unprofessional and immature.
         | I don't hate AI and in fact I use it for many research based
         | tasks, helping me narrowing a lot of tough topics, but it is
         | the People with these kind of attitude turns me off.
        
           | nusl wrote:
           | AI use is fine, though pretending you haven't used it when
           | you obviously did rubs me the wrong way.
           | 
           | I get why GitHub allows editing comments of other users
           | though for public repos I guess it allows for this kind of
           | abuse
        
             | NoteyComplexity wrote:
             | Exactly, being dishonest is the real problem here.
             | 
             | Luckily, every edits are recorded in history, so they can't
             | really hide their abusive behavior, for now. Even if they
             | did, seem like there are often people faster in archiving
             | their posts than they hiding their post.
        
           | cardanome wrote:
           | I don't mid the immature part, they are hate fueled. The
           | ableism is disgusting.
        
           | andrewflnr wrote:
           | I think the open abuse of people raising issues with the
           | project is morally worse than the license issues or even
           | lying about AI usage. Fraud is already bad, but someone can
           | do that for reasons other than pure mean-spiritedness. To
           | pull this nonsense, you have to actively take pleasure in
           | making other people feel bad.
        
         | arccy wrote:
         | probably user reports to GitHub's moderation team
        
         | jonathrg wrote:
         | It's unbelievable to me that Github allows repo admins to edit
         | other people's comments.
        
           | NeckBeardPrince wrote:
           | What would be a valid reason to allow this? That just seems
           | mind-numbingly stupid.
        
             | projektfu wrote:
             | Censoring insults or illegal speech (depending on
             | jurisdiction) would be the main reason I can think of.
        
               | merlindru wrote:
               | That also means that some users will be pressured to
               | censor illegal speech no? If you live under e.g. a regime
               | that disallows or discourages criticism, now suddenly the
               | onus is on you to do something about those comments
               | because you have the ability to. If you couldn't edit the
               | comments it's not your fault.
               | 
               | Either way I think it's a pretty stupid feature the way
               | it's implemented; it should show the edit more clearly or
               | indicate that the comment has been written by multiple
               | people (like StackOverflow does), especially if edits
               | change more than e.g. 10% of the original comment.
        
               | matkoniecz wrote:
               | in such case ability to delete comment would be enough
        
             | halapro wrote:
             | This is particularly useful when editing the top-level
             | comment of a popular issue to specify the current status.
             | Or when a peer opened a placeholder issue and you fill it
             | up. Etc.
             | 
             | If you actually use GitHub as a social network of sorts,
             | there are many reasons to do edit comments. All the edits
             | are visible anyway. You're on Git-Hub, you can already edit
             | everything you have write access to.
        
               | tomalbrc wrote:
               | In which world would you want others to be able to edit
               | your posts in a "SOCIAL NETWORK"? In today's age of
               | misinformation? Greeeeeeeat idea.
        
               | jabbywocker wrote:
               | For GitHub specifically? This world. This is a useful
               | feature
        
             | gucci-on-fleek wrote:
             | Markdown is pretty tricky for new users to figure out, so
             | quite often, users will just paste big snippets of code
             | without formatting them, which is nearly unreadable. I'll
             | usually edit these posts to add ```backticks``` around any
             | code.
        
               | arccy wrote:
               | or they'll do what i assume is the jira style code blocks
               | with just `multiple lines of code`
        
             | munificent wrote:
             | I maintain the formatter for Dart, so a lot of my job
             | involves maintaining the issue tracker for the formatter.
             | 
             | I use this feature all the time. Users get Markdown wrong,
             | give titles to issues that don't make any sense, have
             | typos, etc. Being able to edit issues helps me keep the
             | issue tracker easier to understand and navigate for
             | maintainers and users.
             | 
             | Every feature can be used. That doesn't mean every feature
             | should not exist. The fact that the edit history is still
             | visible means it's next to impossible to abuse the feature.
             | It works fine.
        
           | the8472 wrote:
           | That's a useful feature for long-running issues to include
           | updates in the opening post. Or to improve formatting when a
           | bug reporter isn't familiar with markdown. And that it shows
           | in the edit history should at least discourage abuse.
        
             | dannyfritz07 wrote:
             | Allowing the maintainer to prepend a comment to the top
             | seems more sensible to me to be honest. Would make API use
             | harder potentially, but it would avoid weird abuse like
             | this.
        
               | the8472 wrote:
               | github is meant for collaboration, designing it around
               | adversarial use would be a loss for everyone. Adding a
               | function to report absusive edits rather than an entire
               | post would be a better choice imo.
        
               | testaccount28 wrote:
               | reporting abusive edits requires moderation/arbitration.
               | the rules can instead be changed to sidestep the issue,
               | while maintaining the value of the feature.
        
               | pirates wrote:
               | Report to whom? Github, who allows the behavior and
               | therefore doesn't see anything wrong with it, or the repo
               | admins who have proven they they couldn't give a rat's
               | ass about the very thing you're reporting? The well is
               | already poisoned, there is no reason to think that they'd
               | suddenly change their stance and cooperate.
        
               | freehorse wrote:
               | In this case at least, github (most probably) banned this
               | account, presumably after reports. There are also other
               | stories for github banning accounts for pr trolling kind
               | of behaviours. So not sure if everything is perfect, but
               | at least there are cases such things work.
        
               | sysguest wrote:
               | > designing it around adversarial use would be a loss for
               | everyone
               | 
               | hmm... isn't this more of a 'personal viewpoint'? why are
               | you stating this like a fact?
               | 
               | moreover, how would it "adding Edited by ~" constitute as
               | a "loss for everyone" ?
               | 
               | I agree on adding "report abuse" button, but if no one
               | notices that edit, how would anyone know what to report
               | in the first place?
        
               | junon wrote:
               | It's personal but I agree with it. This is probably the
               | first time I've seen it abused like this. I've been on GH
               | for like 10-15 years.
               | 
               | Normally, repository maintainers are not self-sabotaging
               | like this.
        
             | tomalbrc wrote:
             | It obviously does not discourage abuse
        
               | the8472 wrote:
               | No, that's not obvious at all. A single event is evidence
               | that some abuse still happens, it does not tell us how
               | much more abuse there would be in the counterfactual
               | where the history wasn't available.
               | 
               | discourage != prevent all
        
               | ktm5j wrote:
               | I get what you're saying, but I feel like they should
               | highlight comments in some way if a repo admin completely
               | replaces a comment with different text. I'm struggling to
               | imagine a situation where that would really be
               | appropriate. The "Edited by: username" seems too easy to
               | overlook.
        
               | the8472 wrote:
               | They could show multiple post authors, similar to how
               | they do for co-authored commits.
        
             | vunderba wrote:
             | The vanishing small percentage of people that would
             | actually check a comment's history are the same people who
             | would check a Wikipedia entries history.
             | 
             |  _At a bare minimum_ , the post should have in big bold
             | lettering: Edited by <user_name>.
        
         | xrd wrote:
         | Did you make up A-Lot-AI? Can I suggest "A-Lott-a-AI"?
         | 
         | If you did, this is the greatest thing created in 3 ABC ("After
         | Bullshit ChatGPTification"; ChatGPT launched in 2022.).
         | 
         | NB: Since ChatGPT is basically the new Messiah for many, I
         | really think we should now be using dates like 3 ABC or 5 POS.
         | POS stands for "Prior to Overlord Slop/Shit". I suggest we give
         | up AD/BC.
         | 
         | But, please, I'm not the messiah! (hopefully you have watched
         | Life of Brian!)
        
         | nusl wrote:
         | Follow-up: seems they've been banned
        
         | networked wrote:
         | I notice again I haven't internalized how much
         | https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuspiciouslySpec...
         | really happens.
        
       | kklisura wrote:
       | There should be something of an OFAC Sanction List for SWE for
       | people who blatantly transgress moral and ethical lines.
        
         | kyleee wrote:
         | Ahh good idea; like the Brady list for bad police officers in
         | US. Just have to figure out how to ensure it has teeth and
         | doesn't become a witch hunt
        
       | kshri24 wrote:
       | Gets worse: https://github.com/EclipseFdn/open-
       | vsx.org/issues/6395
        
         | andrewflnr wrote:
         | Already gone.
         | https://web.archive.org/web/20251130101438/https://github.co...
        
       | Havoc wrote:
       | I could see LLMs copying code as innocent mistake, but identical
       | sha256sum on wasm files...jikes
        
       | dangoodmanUT wrote:
       | Wtf is happening in the zig world this week
        
       | znpy wrote:
       | The only stupid thing here is that the zigtools playground is mit
       | licensed, so all zigbook had to do was acknowledging original
       | copyright.
        
       | b800h wrote:
       | Whenever I hear anything about Zig it seems to be drama. Very
       | bizarre, will avoid.
        
         | jamiejquinn wrote:
         | Ditto... I love Zig as a language but I worry the high-level
         | community builders (including Andrew) are a little too
         | antagonistic to foster a positive, tolerant, patient community
         | in the long term. In saying that, my infrequent interactions in
         | the reddit and discord are always pleasant.
        
           | Zambyte wrote:
           | Actual Zig community spaces like Ziggit is very pleasant as
           | far as programming language forums go. I think Zig just
           | occupies a unique space in the language ecosystem (a very
           | performance oriented, production oriented language that is
           | not afraid to rapidly try things and throw them out if it
           | doesn't meet expectations in practice - not many languages
           | sit in the middle of this venn diagram) and people see it as
           | an opportunity to gain a social foothold in something
           | potentially great.
           | 
           | It seems like it might be in the nature of a language with
           | these goals and this development process to attract people
           | like this, no matter how warm and welcoming the community
           | leaders are.
        
           | yoyohello13 wrote:
           | I don't think Andrew is a bad guy, but his tone seems to
           | attract a certain kind of person. All the technical people
           | I've interacted with in the Zig community have been awesome,
           | but for whatever reason it also attracts a lot of people who
           | are just there to shit on anything mainstream.
        
         | myko wrote:
         | This is the first drama I've heard related to Zig, and seems to
         | have nothing to do with the project itself-this is someone
         | writing an online book about Zig
        
           | baranul wrote:
           | Zig has previously been involved in all kinds of drama.
           | Including involving money, battles among developers, attempts
           | to split/fork the language, and self-pushed conflicts with
           | other programming languages. This is just the latest, in the
           | long series.
        
         | pityJuke wrote:
         | This isn't anything to do with Zig though, it just happens to
         | be the language that this crook chose.
         | 
         | They've could've picked Nim and done this whole spiel there
         | (you'd want to pick a fledgling language that isn't saturated
         | with documentation, so the stalwarts aren't usable).
        
       | PaulRobinson wrote:
       | Disappointing.
       | 
       | When zigbook first appeared here, I took a cursory scan, and it
       | looked pretty solid and a useful resource. Seems it duped me and
       | got me good. I was even defending the use of AI a little -
       | although the claim needed to go.
       | 
       | Seems they just were just trying to do over a nascent community
       | that I'm interested in seeing growing and wasn't a member of yet.
       | 
       | Good riddance, then.
        
       | gnarlouse wrote:
       | I'm doing AoC on Zig this year. Zigtools will be my reference.
       | Cheers!
        
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