[HN Gopher] A Remarkable Assertion from A16Z
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       A Remarkable Assertion from A16Z
        
       Author : boplicity
       Score  : 301 points
       Date   : 2025-11-28 12:41 UTC (10 hours ago)
        
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       | d_burfoot wrote:
       | Hypothesis C: failure of human memory. A human read Stephenson's
       | book(s) 20 years ago, remembers that the endings were a bit
       | unsatisfying. The same human also read some other book many years
       | ago, which ends mid-sentence. In that person's mind, the two are
       | conflated.
        
         | boesboes wrote:
         | Hypothesis A is much more likely if you ask me
        
           | shortrounddev2 wrote:
           | It's A16Z, they definitely had an LLM recommend a set of
           | books that nobody there has actually ever read. Except
           | _maybe_ Snowcrash
        
         | eesmith wrote:
         | Hypothesis D-for-Delany: The human thought Stephenson wrote
         | Dhalgren.
         | 
         | "Waiting here, away from the terrifying weaponry, out of the
         | halls of vapor and light, beyond holland into the hills, I have
         | come to"
        
         | coffeebeqn wrote:
         | If I was writing a book review for my company (big famous VC
         | who cares about their reputation) - I would've probably at
         | least popped the book open and read a few chapters if it's been
         | years since I read it
        
         | boznz wrote:
         | Another hypothesis. Have AI generate a top 50 list of books,
         | and add a book you want your website to promote into the mix
         | somewhere near the top to increase its sales. Cheap marketing,
         | It wouldn't be the first time.
        
       | readams wrote:
       | In these modern times of ours, the word literally has taken on a
       | new meaning, which is "not literally but with emphasis." This
       | seems like the most likely explanation.
        
         | EdwardCoffin wrote:
         | Even if that's the intended meaning of _literally_ , it is
         | still a reckless exaggeration. I'm pretty sure that
         | Stephenson's endings are no more abrupt than some of
         | Shakespeare's (check out Hamlet and Macbeth) or some of Frank
         | Herbert's (see Dune and Children of Dune), and I never hear
         | anyone go out of their way to describe either of them as being
         | unable to write endings.
        
           | disgruntledphd2 wrote:
           | > some of Frank Herbert's (see Dune and Children of Dune),
           | 
           | I mean, Dune does in fact end mid-story, which is probably
           | worse.
        
             | jeremyjh wrote:
             | No, no it doesn't. Are you talking about the recent movies
             | that split the first novel into two movies? The novel Dune
             | ends after Paul defeats his enemies and becomes emperor.
        
               | disgruntledphd2 wrote:
               | The Dune series has six novels, the final one is Chapter
               | House Dune, which does in fact end mid story.
               | 
               | I know this because I read them in the 90s and didn't
               | realise that Frank Herbert was dead for quite some time
               | after reading Chapter House.
        
               | jeremyjh wrote:
               | I know that, I've read them too. In the SP, and in this
               | thread we're discussing endings to novels. No one is
               | complaining about a series that isn't finished due to the
               | author's death.
        
               | disgruntledphd2 wrote:
               | Hence my comment, "which is probably worse".
        
           | hnmullany wrote:
           | Everything from Stephenson after Anathem is an unremitting
           | slog. He needs an editor who won't back down from telling him
           | he needs to cut a third of his pages.
        
             | jeremyjh wrote:
             | Reamde and Fall are quite readable. But what does this have
             | to do with endings?
        
               | jonfromsf wrote:
               | Remade was snappy but Fall went on forever.
        
         | MangoToupe wrote:
         | Hard to believe this when it's such a cut and dry claim about
         | text. What does exaggeration even imply in that context?
        
         | layer8 wrote:
         | "Literally" is commonly used as emphasis, but not as hyperbole.
         | So it's still a misleading misrepresentation just the same.
        
         | howenterprisey wrote:
         | I interpret the sense of "literally" here in the opposite way,
         | i.e. without it the sentence may be taken to mean that the
         | books metaphorically stop mid-sentence, but with it, they're
         | saying that it's non-metaphorical and they really do. It would
         | be bizarre wording otherwise.
        
         | Bjartr wrote:
         | The use of the word "literally" to be used as emphasis started
         | in the 1700s, and people have been complaining about it since
         | at least 1909
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literally#As_an_intensifier
        
         | grahamlee wrote:
         | These modern times that literally began in 1769. Oxford English
         | Dictionary, "literally (adv.), sense I.1.c," June 2025,
         | https://doi.org/10.1093/OED/9189024563.
        
         | fnord77 wrote:
         | literally
        
       | kylecazar wrote:
       | It would have been really great to end the blog post mid-
       | sentence.
        
         | ruined wrote:
         | um, it literally does
        
           | nchmy wrote:
           | no,it quite literally doesnt...
        
             | ruined wrote:
             | a remarkable assertion from nchmy
        
             | dundarious wrote:
             | The central complaint of TFA is the exact same as what
             | ruined is doing. It is very obviously a joke. Not something
             | I appreciate on HN, but still.
        
               | andy99 wrote:
               | I think it was a good enough joke or witty remark
               | grounded in the crux of the article that it's worth it.
               | And it's certainly interesting to see the "whoosh" past
               | many of the commenters
        
               | dundarious wrote:
               | It was flagged and I vouched it for similar reasons. I
               | downvote such comments though.
        
             | natch wrote:
             | whoosh
        
           | jeremyjh wrote:
           | I'm really curious whats going on here. Is this a joke? Are
           | you ok?
        
             | ruined wrote:
             | did you even read the article??
        
               | dundarious wrote:
               | I don't appreciate these kinds of simple one-line
               | referential jokes on HN, but your joke was to emulate
               | perfectly the central issue of TFA, so I do agree that it
               | brings into question who did and who did not read the
               | article -- I know _you_ read it.
        
           | fainpul wrote:
           | This is brilliant, but people don't get it :)
        
         | fnord77 wrote:
         | I don't have any original ideas
        
         | pstoll wrote:
         | Lol I was hoping for that too
        
         | anotherevan wrote:
         | About half-way through I had to resist the urge to skip to the
         | end to see if he did that. An opportunity lost.
         | 
         | I'll admit, of the few books of his I've read, I always felt
         | like they ended a couple of chapters too soon or a couple of
         | chapters too late -- which has put me off reading more of his
         | books despite some interesting premises. I suspect some of the
         | deeper themes are lost on me in my bedtime readings. Just not
         | my cup of tea at the end of the day, literally.
        
       | chucksmash wrote:
       | Stephenson? Ah yes, the deservedly obscure dadaist prose stylist
       | who thought it was cool to stop his books mid-sentence.
        
         | andrelaszlo wrote:
         | > A hundred years from now, thanks to the workings of the
         | Inhuman Centipede, I'm known as a deservedly obscure dadaist
         | prose stylist who thought it was cool to stop his books mid-
         | sentence.
        
           | gpderetta wrote:
           | I love the "Inhuman Centipede" definition for AI. Is that a
           | Stephenson original or he is quoting existing usage.
        
       | 3rodents wrote:
       | "A hundred years from now, thanks to the workings of the Inhuman
       | Centipede, I'm known as a deservedly obscure dadaist prose
       | stylist who thought it was cool to stop his books mid-sentence."
       | 
       | is "Inhuman Centipede" to describe the slop-eating-its-own-tale
       | future we all dread an established term, or an invention of the
       | author? I hope it becomes the term we all use, like slop and
       | clanker.
       | 
       | For those of us writing original words that are consumed by LLMs
       | without our consent, at least we get to be the front of the
       | Inhuman Centipede.
        
         | spuz wrote:
         | The earliest use of this term I can find is here:
         | https://andrewbrown.substack.com/p/the-inhuman-centipede
         | 
         | It was also used as the title for this post by Cory Doctrow
         | discussing the same problem:
         | https://pluralistic.net/2024/03/14/inhuman-centipede/#enshit...
        
           | cb321 wrote:
           | There is also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HumancentiPad
           | (which is almost surely an homage to the movie) which was
           | 2011 and tied in all kinds of tech-aspects like licensing and
           | iPads.
        
         | doctorhandshake wrote:
         | Not sure if the substitution of 'tale' for 'tail' was
         | intentional but regardless it's apropos
        
         | myrmidon wrote:
         | I strongly suspect that the term alludes to "human centipede",
         | which is a dutch horror film and involves the titular centipede
         | literally eating his own shit.
        
       | Noe2097 wrote:
       | Another hypothesis: https://xkcd.com/725/.
        
       | uxp100 wrote:
       | Could be some very dry humor? Confused LLM seems most likely
       | though.
        
       | hoistbypetard wrote:
       | All of the descriptions on that reading list give me strong LLM
       | vibes. Which, given the source, seems like it should be expected.
       | This post could have stopped after hypothesis 1.
        
         | jeremyjh wrote:
         | I agree it is not really controversial, I don't think any other
         | explanation is credible. And it really calls into question
         | their assertion that at least one person there has read every
         | book on the list. They love these books, yet no one there cared
         | enough to write a few sentences about them?
        
           | zurfer wrote:
           | well, maybe no one felt informed enough to write this, so it
           | was outsourced to the llm (imposter syndrom) or it was pure
           | laziness.
        
             | roywiggins wrote:
             | The trick is that this list of books amounts to nerd
             | shibboleths. It's not important to have read them so much
             | as be able to use them as a marker of being a smart person.
             | 
             | (That isn't to say these aren't good books, I'm talking
             | about their social function among a certain type of person,
             | corporation or natural)
        
       | jsheard wrote:
       | Since the commit history is public, there's a much easier way to
       | tell that AI had a hand in writing that list.
       | 
       | https://github.com/a16z-infra/reading-list/commit/93bc3abb04...
       | 
       |  _> opus descriptions in cursor, raw_
        
         | andy99 wrote:
         | Stephenson doesn't just write sci-fi, he writes operating
         | manuals for the future. His books predicted cryptocurrency, the
         | metaverse, and distributed computing before most of us knew
         | what TCP/IP stood for. Warning: his endings are notoriously
         | abrupt, like a segfault in the middle of your favorite
         | function.
         | 
         | This really is a study in AI slop. At least they had the good
         | sense to change it.
        
           | nakamoto_damacy wrote:
           | How did his books PREDICT crypto when we had eCash way before
           | any of his books? SMH.
        
             | agentultra wrote:
             | Most of his books are also dystopias, not operating
             | manuals.
        
               | rainsford wrote:
               | Can A16Z tell the difference? Insert that meme "At long
               | last, we have created the Torment Nexus, from the classic
               | sci-fi novel, Don't Create the Torment Nexus".
        
               | cmrdporcupine wrote:
               | a16z and others like them never met a dystopian warning
               | they didn't interpret as a titillating invitation to an
               | uncomfortably exciting and inevitable future!
        
               | ndiddy wrote:
               | a16z seems to view turning society into a dystopia as a
               | goal, so that makes sense. Their portfolio includes:
               | 
               | - DoubleSpeed, a bot farm as a service provider, allowing
               | customers to orchestrate social media activity across
               | thousands of fake accounts to create artificial consensus
               | on the topic of their choice. Never pay a human again!
               | 
               | - Cheddr, the TikTok of sports gambling, whose
               | differentiating feature is allowing users under 21. Place
               | live in-game bets with just a swipe!
               | 
               | - Coverd, a new type of credit card where you can wipe
               | off bills by betting on your favorite gambling games in
               | their app. No VPN required!
        
               | jsheard wrote:
               | > Cheddr
               | 
               | > Coverd
               | 
               | Even worse, they're bringing Web 2.0 startup names
               | back...
        
               | jakelazaroff wrote:
               | Wow, I just checked the doublespeed website and it is
               | comically evil. The footer says -- verbatim, and in huge
               | letters -- "never pay a human again." (I'm not
               | selectively quoting; it's a full sentence, despite their
               | weird capitalization.)
               | 
               | If Neal Stephenson tried to write a villain this on-the-
               | nose, his editor would tell him to tone it down.
        
             | efnx wrote:
             | Yeah, which book are we talking about? Reamde features
             | crypto heavily, but I remember having bitcoins at the time
             | it came out.
        
               | simonw wrote:
               | I imagine this is intended (though if it's AI-generated
               | "intended" doesn't really apply) as a reference 1999's
               | Cryptonomicon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptonomicon
               | 
               | From that Wikipedia summary:
               | 
               | > Their goal is to facilitate anonymous Internet banking
               | using electronic money and (later) digital gold currency
        
           | abecedarius wrote:
           | When they changed it is also when they misspelled his name.
           | Opus got it right. I was surprised Stephenson took the
           | misspelling as an AI tell.
        
           | philipwhiuk wrote:
           | To a version that managed to typo his name.
        
           | netsharc wrote:
           | Man... "Write a book recommendation for people who like The
           | Big Bang Theory".
        
             | binary132 wrote:
             | I'm gonna start thinking "Bazinga!" every time someone says
             | something borderline ai-sloppy
        
         | mtlynch wrote:
         | That version is more sensible. Opus generated:
         | 
         | > _Warning: his endings are notoriously abrupt, like a segfault
         | in the middle of your favorite function._
         | 
         | In commit e4d022[0], the wording changed to:
         | 
         | > _Fair warning: most of these books famously don 't have
         | endings (they literally stop mid-sentence during a normal plot
         | arc)._
         | 
         | It's unclear what led to that change, as the commit message is
         | just "stephenson".
         | 
         | It went through a few more minor edits to get to what's
         | currently published.
         | 
         | https://github.com/a16z-infra/reading-list/commit/e4d022d592...
        
           | ilikehurdles wrote:
           | matt-bornstein's commits in that repo do often start off with
           | ai-generated descriptions which he then edits down. there are
           | notes on some commits that say things like "AI GENERATED NEED
           | TO EDIT". the other contributors' changes don't have these
           | tells.
           | 
           | while it should come as no surprise to have software written
           | by llms, if these books are in fact just picked by llms then
           | what's the point of this list?
        
             | cowsandmilk wrote:
             | I don't see any evidence the LLM picked the list of books,
             | it instead was used to update/add descriptions of the books
             | and series.
        
               | thwarted wrote:
               | That's almost more damning. The list was created by
               | humans, who presumably read the books, but then couldn't
               | be bothered to summarize the very books they read? Either
               | the human is really lazy ("read" the book but can't be
               | bothered to write a short summary) or really really lazy
               | (didn't read the book but felt a summary was necessary).
               | Either way, it makes this list less interesting, at the
               | very least because it doesn't need to exist at all if
               | someone can just ask an LLM "list and describe books that
               | A16Z might think are valuable to read" and get the same
               | quality output.
        
             | pyrale wrote:
             | > if these books are in fact just picked by llms then
             | what's the point of this list?
             | 
             | How do you do, fellow nerds?
        
             | tshaddox wrote:
             | I'd be curious what the point is even if it were written by
             | humans with some evidence of non-zero effort, but posting
             | something with no point _and_ no effort is really puzzling.
        
         | simonw wrote:
         | https://github.com/a16z-infra/reading-list/commit/717b3d64d6...
         | 
         | > [THIS IS AI GENERATED, NEED TO EDIT] The manga that asked
         | [...]
         | 
         | They do at least have "NEED TO EDIT" in there, but this prose
         | was openly generated by AI as a starting point.
        
         | skybrian wrote:
         | I don't see any pull request fixing this yet.
        
       | dude250711 wrote:
       | It's the same guys who get impressed if you are playing a video
       | game while talking to them.
        
       | simianparrot wrote:
       | Keep this in mind if you _ever_ feel tempted to take A16Z
       | seriously. Absolute charlatans and clowns.
        
         | hobofan wrote:
         | Software is eating the world.
         | 
         | AI is eating the VCs.
        
           | kibwen wrote:
           | We know that being a billionaire surrounded by yes-men all
           | day causes brain damage, and we know that being on social
           | media living in a delusion bubble all day causes brain
           | damage, so really they were already cooked even before
           | signing what was left of their brains over to the LLMs.
        
           | pantalaimon wrote:
           | AI will be running the VCs if it's not already.
        
             | blibble wrote:
             | when the bar is this low it will be hard to tell any
             | difference
             | 
             | https://www.ycombinator.com/companies?batch=Fall%202025
        
           | binary132 wrote:
           | MLaaS (money laundering as a service)
        
         | DonHopkins wrote:
         | ...and a conehead.
        
           | brandall10 wrote:
           | It's such an interesting arc. I starting university in Sept
           | '94, super excited to try out Mosaic on a T1 class connection
           | after suffering through my 14.4k home modem. And shortly
           | after I arrived, Netscape dropped.
           | 
           | He was an absolute hero of that era, possibly the most
           | admired 'geek' back then. Young, with hair, with no hints of
           | his future Dr. Evil emergence.
        
             | neilv wrote:
             | I don't recall that fame at the time (from Mcom/Netscape,
             | JWZ was more visible, in my circles), but I knew his name.
             | 
             | When he was first coding NCSA Mosaic, we were both pretty
             | young, and doing workstation development, which took more
             | of what HN would consider hacker spirit than the bulk of
             | contemporary software development does. And we were also
             | presumably Internet people, so I assumed he was like me.
             | 
             | In my mind, there was a default Internet person culture,
             | which was very different than the tech industry culture of
             | today. Curious, optimistic and wanting to bring Internet
             | tech and culture to people, and a sense of responsibility
             | for it. (Not affected platitudes, but innate and genuine;
             | but also not tested by the potential of wealth, so you
             | didn't really know how firmly held it was.)
             | 
             | Culturally, today, I seem to be closer than him to my early
             | impression of early Internet people. (Though I changed my
             | mind about trying to first become a professor and then do
             | research commercial spinouts, rather than to grab the
             | initial dotcom boom money right away. So I'd like a do-
             | over.)
             | 
             | I don't know why he culturally seemed to go into the
             | direction of libertarian manifestos and questionable crypto
             | pumping.
             | 
             | Maybe he has in mind a version of OG Internet values, or
             | some other vision, and he's trying to amass more wealth and
             | power to make it happen?
             | 
             | There have been a few OG hackers in the VC space who you
             | might have assumed would go one way if they had money, but
             | then went a different way. Were they actually always like
             | that? Did they learn something that changed how they think
             | about the world? Were they changed by money/power circles,
             | sycophants, or drugs? Did their business take on a life of
             | its own, naturally maximizing profit, and they were just
             | along for the ride?
        
       | Waterluvian wrote:
       | i didn't want to be bothered with the shift key so i stopped
       | using it and called it culture. but now i don't even have to
       | finish my
        
       | genghisjahn wrote:
       | Stephenson's endings are fine.
        
       | martythemaniak wrote:
       | Silicon Valley is largely illiterate when it comes to fiction and
       | literature. It is generally pretty hard to find people who read
       | or think about anything other than a small set of standardized
       | scifi, so even if this wasn't ai slop, it would still be pretty
       | bad.
        
         | quesera wrote:
         | Can you do more than complain?
         | 
         | All of the books I have read on this list (which is nearly all
         | of them) are entirely worth reading.
         | 
         | But I'm always looking for more and better stuff to read, so
         | please give us a few examples that you believe should be
         | included.
        
       | warpspin wrote:
       | Wished he'd spend as much as effort on writing endings for his
       | books as on that blog post.
       | 
       | Sorry. Just grumpy, cause I always love the first 80% of his
       | books and then they somehow... just disintegrate.
        
       | cm2012 wrote:
       | The most likely option of all was the article was written without
       | that much effort by a random employee. This is a lot of work over
       | one throwaway sentence lol.
        
         | happytoexplain wrote:
         | How on earth could you think the _most likely_ option is that a
         | human wrote that sentence on purpose? It 's not the type of
         | wrong that comes from low effort levels, it's the type of wrong
         | that comes from not being a human.
        
           | cm2012 wrote:
           | Humans make that error all the time. They can hear the author
           | has abrupt endings and write it down. I think this case it
           | actually was AI (according to some other HN comment) but you
           | don't need to be an AI to make this error.
        
       | dandellion wrote:
       | He has my admiration, I wouldn't have been able to write an
       | article like this and resist the urge to end it mid
        
         | airstrike wrote:
         | Maybe he decided to up the ante and name his upcoming novel
         | Candlejack, just to sp
        
       | qoez wrote:
       | It's definitely written by an AI. The end description of
       | hitchhikers guide is "[...]the meaning of life. Which turns out
       | to be an integer." No one would bother writing that.
        
       | larsbrinkhoff wrote:
       | He should have ended this essay mid-sencence, because that would
        
       | exasperaited wrote:
       | When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.
       | 
       | -- Maya Angelou
        
       | TazeTSchnitzel wrote:
       | I've seen LLMs claim that a text cuts off mid-sentence before in
       | cases where it in fact doesn't, and I think this might be an
       | artifact of them being presented with a truncated version by some
       | unclear software process, perhaps to fit into a context window.
       | In this case, however, it's unlikely that the LLM was presented
       | the text directly, and rather it is recounting things it "knows".
        
         | thenickdude wrote:
         | I was trying out an IDE plugin for local LLM integration, but
         | it would just make totally insane edits instead of what I asked
         | for.
         | 
         | It turned out that the LLM-runner's default setting for
         | handling queries that were too long was to silently delete the
         | middle of the query. So the LLM saw the beginning of my ask,
         | and the tail end of the code context, and nothing else.
        
       | syllogism wrote:
       | I thought it was a joke? Like the reviewer is saying, "I didn't
       | finish these books".
        
       | refulgentis wrote:
       | a16z is such a joke. Prototype of people with no taste and way
       | too much money.
        
       | gramakri2 wrote:
       | Missed chance to end the article mid sentence
        
       | feintruled wrote:
       | Reminds me of Werner Herzog's autobiography. In the introduction,
       | he muses on a life being cut short by a snipers bullet, and when
       | he sees a bird flying past his window as he is writing his book
       | makes him imagine it is a bullet and he thinks it would be a nice
       | device to cut his final chapter short at that exact moment, so he
       | is giving fair warning that the book will end abruptly.
       | 
       | And so it does, but in a totally Herzog moment he then almost
       | immediately intones afterwards "and that is the end of the book
       | as I indicated in the foreword".
        
       | Coeur wrote:
       | Of course the irony ist that if a big corporation publishes a
       | year-end reading list, it has the implicit message of "hey we are
       | not just a group of boring corporate robots - we're people, with
       | real feelings, and hobbies like reading, and taste."
       | 
       | And now we realize that this is just a PR charade. They might not
       | be people with hobbies like reading, and taste.
        
       | andriamanitra wrote:
       | The list is clearly mostly machine generated but the name typo is
       | an unlikely error for LLM to make. I'm guessing the "general
       | editing pass" that introduced it was done by an actual human
       | while trying to make the text flow better (less LLM-like).
       | 
       | https://github.com/a16z-infra/reading-list/commit/f8d149495a...
        
       | rsanek wrote:
       | due to constant mis-use like this, literally has even been
       | redefined to not necessarily mean its primary definition
       | https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally
        
         | tsimionescu wrote:
         | How is it misuse? This is how words are used - people use turns
         | of phrase and metaphors, and then popular metaphors become
         | secondary meanings. Very popular secondary meanings can even
         | become grammar pieces - like "very", which has become the most
         | standard intensifier, but used to be a normal adverb, like
         | literally and truly.
        
           | shwaj wrote:
           | It's an inadvertent step toward Newspeak, where we no longer
           | have a word that means what "literally" used to unambiguously
           | mean.
        
       | block97 wrote:
       | Sssh, Neal. They'll do to you what they did to Michael O. Ch
        
       | socalgal2 wrote:
       | I wish I had as many positive experience as it seems some other
       | HNers have with LLMs. I'm not saying I've had zero positive
       | experiences but the number of negative experiences is so high
       | that it's just super scary.
       | 
       | Yesterday, Thanksgiving, there was a Google Doodle. Clicking the
       | doodle lead to a Gemini prompt for how to plan to have
       | Thanksgiving dinner ready on time. It had a schedule for lots of
       | prep the day before and then a timeline for the day of. It had
       | cooking the dinner rolls and then said something like "take them
       | out and keep them warm" followed by cooking something else in the
       | oven. I asked "How do I keep them warm when something else is
       | cooking in the oven?". It proceeded to give me a revised timeline
       | that contradicted its original timeline and also, made no sense
       | in and of itself. I asked it about the contradiction and the
       | error and it apologized and gave a completely new 3rd timeline
       | that was different than the first 2 and also nonsense. This was
       | Google's Gemini Promotion!
       | 
       | All it really needed to do to my first query was say something
       | like "put a towel over the rolls" and leave it on top of the
       | oven.... Maybe? But then, it had told me be spread butter over
       | the rolls as soon as they came out of the oven so I'd have asked,
       | "won't the towel suck up all the butter?"
       | 
       | This is one example many times LLMs fail me (ChatGPT, Gemini).
       | For direct code gen, my subjective experience is it fails 5 of 6
       | times. For stackoverflow type questions it succeeds 5 of 6 times.
       | For non-code questions it depends on the type of question. But,
       | when it fails it fails so badly that I'm somewhat surprised it
       | ever works.
       | 
       | And yea, the whole world is running head first into massive LLM
       | usage like this one using it for short reviews of authors. Ugh!!!
        
         | fainpul wrote:
         | You're not supposed to look so closely!
         | 
         | It seems to me, most LLM fans are impressed by glancing at a
         | result ("It works!") and never really think about the flaws of
         | the answer or look at the code in detail.
        
         | ErroneousBosh wrote:
         | > I'm not saying I've had zero positive experiences but the
         | number of negative experiences is so high that it's just super
         | scary.
         | 
         | Just for shits and giggles I decided to let Copilot (whatever
         | the default in vscode is) write a Makefile for a simple avr-gcc
         | project. I can't remember what the prompt I gave it was, but it
         | was something along the lines of "given this makefile that is
         | old but works, write a new makefile for this project that
         | doesn't have one" and a link to a simple gist I wrote years
         | ago.
         | 
         | Fuuuuuuuuck me.
         | 
         | It's 2500 lines long. It's not just bigger than the codebase
         | it's supposed to build, it's just about bigger than all the C
         | files in all the avr-gcc projects in that entire chunk of my
         | ~/devel/ directory. I couldn't even begin to make sense of what
         | it's trying to do.
         | 
         | It looks mostly like it's declaring variables over and over,
         | concatenating more bits on as it goes. I don't know for sure
         | though.
         | 
         | I won't be using it.
        
         | evanelias wrote:
         | It's truly remarkable that Google put an absurd Wrong Answers
         | Only generator in front of their primary cash cow 18 months
         | ago, and in that time their share price has nearly doubled.
         | 
         | It's wrong nearly every time I search for anything. Ironically,
         | in writing this comment, I tried asking it for the GOOG share
         | price the day before AI Overviews launched, and it got that
         | wrong too.
        
       | dimal wrote:
       | > I had to read this over a few times to believe that I was
       | seeing it. If it didn't include the word "literally" I'd assume
       | some poetic license on the part of whoever, or whatever, wrote
       | this.
       | 
       | Unfortunately, the meaning of the word "literally" has morphed
       | into almost the opposite of "literally". Most people just use it
       | as an intensifier devoid of any true meaning. Makes sense that an
       | LLM that doesn't have any sense of truth would just stuff that in
       | there.
        
         | quesera wrote:
         | > _Makes sense that an LLM that doesn't have any sense of truth
         | would just stuff that in there_
         | 
         | As it turns out, that phrase was most likely added in a human
         | review-edit. Along with the typo.
         | 
         | This is not an argument against LLMs lacking a sense of truth
         | -- just that humans are pretty incompetent as well.
        
       | larodi wrote:
       | The footnote is precious, everything Humpty related is not.
        
       | angoragoats wrote:
       | He needs to sue A16Z for libel. Or maybe he already is in the
       | process of doing that, given this sentence from the article:
       | "This is a factual assertion that is (a) false, (b) easy to fact-
       | check, and (c) casts my work ethic, and that of my editors, in an
       | unflattering light."
       | 
       | These shitty VCs with their LLM-generated garbage need to be held
       | accountable for their actions.
        
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