[HN Gopher] Last Issue of "ECMAScript News"
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Last Issue of "ECMAScript News"
Author : Klaster_1
Score : 57 points
Date : 2025-11-27 06:14 UTC (16 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (ecmascript.news)
(TXT) w3m dump (ecmascript.news)
| RaizedByWolves wrote:
| Too bad, I liked it. Does anyone have a good alternative to the
| newsletter?
| uallo wrote:
| https://javascriptweekly.com, https://frontendfoc.us
| Klaster_1 wrote:
| Also https://nodeweekly.com.
|
| Checked my emails, turns out I've been subscribed to ES News
| from the first issue in 2016.
| embedding-shape wrote:
| Anyone have any recommendations that aren't run by Cooper?
| All of the suggestions so far are run by the same person
| and while I don't have anything against them personally, a
| bit of diversity wouldn't hurt :)
| yesthisiswes wrote:
| I like bytes.dev
|
| https://bytes.dev/
| petercooper wrote:
| Hi. I am he. But I agree!
|
| https://www.reddit.com/r/javascript/
| https://thisweekinreact.com/ https://piccalil.li/the-
| index/ https://bytes.dev/
| https://www.reddit.com/r/reactjs
| https://www.reddit.com/r/node (and typescript and vuejs
| and angular..)
|
| The more the merrier.
|
| Also HN is pretty good itself much of the time. For
| example: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastWeek&page=
| 0&prefix=fal...
| jazzypants wrote:
| This also gave me an "invalid request" response.
| jazzypants wrote:
| These both gave me an "invalid request" when I tried to sign
| up. I'm on my cell phone so I can't debug further.
| petercooper wrote:
| Unfortunately we've had endless waves of botnets attempting
| to subscribe thousands of fake email addresses to us over
| the years, and while our IP reputation system helps keep
| this at bay, it's also catching quite a lot of legitimate
| users now thanks to the prevalance of VPNs. So we'll need
| to come up with a new approach. (And no, even Cloudflare
| Turnstile isn't enough to keep them away, sadly, as there
| are plenty of human-backed adversarial networks too trying
| to make scam Gmail addresses look legit by subscribing them
| to newsletters.)
|
| However, we do subscribe many people manually, and we also
| have RSS - http://javascriptweekly.com/rss - so you don't
| have to deal with email at all if you don't want to. There
| are also numerous other options out there, which I've
| linked in a sibling comment.
| jazzypants wrote:
| Awesome, I just added your feeds to my RSS reader. I
| appreciate you offering that option.
|
| Thanks for the prompt response. Keep up the good work! :)
| Raed667 wrote:
| I'm not minimizing the amount of effort it takes to curate links,
| but does a mailing list need to constantly grow for it to be
| viable ? What does it mean to "operate at a loss" in this case ?
| spiffytech wrote:
| My first guess is ESP pricing. Just to pull numbers out of thin
| air to anchor the conversation, mailing to 20,000 subscribers
| costs $200-$400/mo at Mailchimp/ConvertKit/Klaviyo, three of
| the top choices in the space. If it's 50,000 subscribers,
| that's $380-$800/mo.
| alt227 wrote:
| Just playing devils advocate, but why not just switch to
| posting on a free hosted blog platform? The information can
| be there for all to see, it doesnt need to be distributed
| directly into mailboxes by premium mailer services.
| monooso wrote:
| I have no idea whether the hosting is free, but they
| already have an online archive [1].
|
| Either way, "free hosting" doesn't cover the time required
| to produce each issue.
|
| If you're happy to do such ongoing work without recompense,
| please consider starting a successor.
|
| [1] https://ecmascript.news/archive.html
| alt227 wrote:
| The parent comment I was replying to was talking about
| the cost of distributing a mailing list via email. I was
| replying to that, no need for snark.
| koakuma-chan wrote:
| You can send emails for free if you don't use some bullshit
| platform, no?
| notnullorvoid wrote:
| You can send emails without these platforms, but your
| emails very likely will not be recieved if you do.
|
| Email is an incredibly broken technology.
| skydhash wrote:
| You could just notify the user to add you to their
| contact list. Like : Emails will be sent
| from feed@example.com. If you're not seeing any email,
| please check your spam inbox and add this address to your
| contact list,...[rest of notice].
| anon7000 wrote:
| If you're not seeing the email in the first place, you're
| not seeing the "fix."
| skydhash wrote:
| The message should be in the subscribe page, not in an
| email.
| koakuma-chan wrote:
| Wait, but then they wouldn't be able to subscribe you to
| their shit without your consent.
| yyyk wrote:
| These are email marketing platforms, not bulk transaction
| email platforms, and I don't see why they can't do with the
| latter. At a bulk transaction platform, such a tiny amount
| would cost at most $20-$50/mo. If you're willing to do a bit
| of work to use AWS SES, that would be $2-$5 a month. Azure
| ACS would be even cheaper.
| dbushell wrote:
| it costs money to send a lot of emails that aren't immediately
| blocked or sent to the junk folder
| hombre_fatal wrote:
| Seems obvious that it wasn't generating enough money to make it
| a viable venture for the person putting in the work.
|
| > The number of advertisers and subscribers has been slowly but
| steadily decreasing
|
| This does not entail that they need "constant growth" to be
| viable.
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