[HN Gopher] Tuxedo Computers Cancels Snapdragon X1 Linux Laptop
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       Tuxedo Computers Cancels Snapdragon X1 Linux Laptop
        
       Author : Venn1
       Score  : 34 points
       Date   : 2025-11-21 19:46 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | andrewaylett wrote:
       | While I almost certainly wouldn't have done more than wished for
       | one, it's a shame they're not getting any return for their
       | effort.
        
       | ndiddy wrote:
       | It's a shame that this didn't end up going anywhere. When
       | Qualcomm was doing their press stuff prior to the Snapdragon X
       | launch, they said that they'd be putting equal effort into
       | supporting both Windows and Linux. If anyone here is running
       | Linux on a Snapdragon X laptop, I'd be curious to know what the
       | experience is like today.
       | 
       | I will say that Intel has kind of made the original X Elite chips
       | irrelevant with their Lunar Lake chips. They have similar
       | performance/battery life, and run cool (so you can use the laptop
       | on your lap or in bed without it overheating), but have full
       | Linux support today and you don't have to deal with x86
       | emulation. If anyone needs a thin & light Linux laptop today,
       | they're probably your best option. Personally, I get 10-14 hours
       | of real usage (not manufacturer "offline video playback with the
       | brightness turned all the way down" numbers) on my Vivobook S14
       | running Fedora KDE. In the future, it'll be interesting to see
       | how Intel's upcoming Panther Lake chips compare to Snapdragon X2.
        
         | ori_b wrote:
         | Forget equal effort: Start off with hardware docs.
        
       | IshKebab wrote:
       | Does anyone know _why_ Linux laptop battery life is so bad? Is it
       | a case of devices needing to be turned off that aren 't? Poor CPU
       | scheduling?
        
         | WastedCucumber wrote:
         | I ran into this problem on a Slimbook some years ago now. I
         | found that my battery drained way too fast in standby, and I
         | remember determining that this was some (relatively common)
         | problem with sleep states, that some linux machines couldn't
         | really enter/stay in a deeper sleep state, so my Slimbook's
         | standby wasn't much of a standby at all.
         | 
         | But that's just one problem, I bet.
        
         | JoshTriplett wrote:
         | > Does anyone know why Linux laptop battery life is so bad?
         | 
         | It's _extremely_ dependent on the hardware and driver quality.
         | On ARM and contemporary x86 that 's even more true, because
         | (among other things) laptops suspend individual devices
         | ("suspend-to-idle" or "S0ix" or "Modern Standby"), and any one
         | device failing to suspend properly has a disproportionate
         | impact.
         | 
         | That said, to a first approximation, this is a case where
         | different people have wildly different experiences, and people
         | who buy high-end well-supported hardware experience a
         | completely different world than people who install Linux on
         | whatever random hardware they have. For instance, Linux on a
         | ThinkPad has _excellent_ battery life, sometimes exceeding
         | Windows.
        
       | exabrial wrote:
       | I mean I feel like once one of the ARM chipmakers can lend a hand
       | on the software side it should be a landslide.
       | 
       | Google and Samsung managed to make very successful Chromebooks
       | together, but IIRC there was a bunch of back and forth to make
       | the whole thing boot quickly and sip battery power.
        
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