[HN Gopher] Command Lines
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Command Lines
Author : nowflux
Score : 44 points
Date : 2025-11-21 16:33 UTC (6 hours ago)
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| kami23 wrote:
| This has been what I've been seeing internally within $DAYJOB
| down to the split between vibe coding / vibe engineering /
| artisinally crafted code.
|
| The gaps between engineers using the tools and those not are
| continuing to grow, and I'm curious to see what tools we get to
| use internally and what we can't... I've been able to demonstrate
| significant speed up in development time for features with
| certain tools but the amount of control some of these companies
| want in contracts are things the company hadn't seen before, and
| made it too conservative to go in on.
|
| I also see this space changing so much that I don't particularly
| care for the tools for individuals now as much as I care about
| the way I share the workload with my team. I need a way to keep
| everyone up to date and reviewing code without getting brain
| drained as fast. Review fatigue is real, and it sucks. I haven't
| really found one that I've liked in that regard and one that a
| Fortune N company would want to go in on.
| dingnuts wrote:
| > The gap between engineers using the tools and those not are
| continuing to grow
|
| Yeah, the ONLY place I hear this where it means "AI pushers are
| getting faster" is on this website, where half of your salaries
| depend on said belief.
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| When I go outside and talk to real engineers who I respect, in
| confidence and away from the suits forcing them to use AI, away
| from the hype of the industry telling them only one opinion is
| allowed, they all agree that "agentic coding" is simply not a
| meaningful improvement in quality or speed of publishing
| working software in the real world.
|
| Maybe you like it, and that's fine. If you want to pay a lot of
| money for advanced IntelliSense and you can get your boss to do
| that for you, have fun. Just don't force it on me.
|
| I don't believe you'll be meaningfully faster or produce better
| work than I can without the clanker's help.
|
| If I get furloughed I'm going to get a new career working with
| my hands.
| skydhash wrote:
| I'm still waiting for an article like this one:
|
| https://jlouisramblings.blogspot.com/2013/04/acme-as-
| editor_...
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| It's clear, informative, and even without reproducing it, you
| can still form an opinion about the tool.
|
| All the AI pushers's comments are either very vague or
| experiments whose sole quality is that it has been done with
| LLMs (often badly).
| myky22 wrote:
| I was trying to create a spectrum of agentic tools ranging from
| "Vibe coding" to "Old-school craftmanship". This article did
| exactly that for me :)
| Sharlin wrote:
| TIL that Grace Hopper invented zero-based version numbers.
| foobarian wrote:
| I wonder if decline of sites like StackOverflow will mean that
| model quality may crest at some point, at least for newest
| topics. There are cyclic dependencies in the industry though so
| maybe everything will evolve in a novel direction. Another
| possibility is that such sites may become valuable enough as
| training inputs to start sharing some of the money firehose with
| contributors.
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