[HN Gopher] Why Samsung Phones Are Failing Emergency Calls in Au...
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Why Samsung Phones Are Failing Emergency Calls in Australia
Author : mivok
Score : 38 points
Date : 2025-11-19 18:43 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| Some more discussion:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45981608
| danishSuri1994 wrote:
| I'm curious whether this is an RRC/IMS stack issue on Samsung's
| implementation or something carrier-side in Australia's 000
| routing setup.
|
| Emergency call handling tends to expose edge cases that normal
| calls never hit. Would be interesting to know if this affects
| only certain models or firmware branches.
| nomel wrote:
| What's the difference with emergency calls? (I know nothing of
| this.)
| pta2002 wrote:
| Namely the fact that emergency calls can be routed through
| other networks that aren't your own (in fact, you can place
| an emergency call without a SIM).
| testing22321 wrote:
| You can also make emergency calls when you don't have enough
| signal for regular calls.
|
| It forces it through
| ssl-3 wrote:
| I don't know how it is with VoLTE and other recent things (it
| may be the same; it may be different), but at one time in
| cellular world: Emergency calls differed from other calls in
| that they Must Always Work.
|
| An emergency call can connect using any tower that is
| compatible with the caller's hardware -- with or without
| service provisioned, and with or without any sort of SIM.
|
| Need help, and find a dusty phone somewhere? Turn it on, call
| emergency services using 0118 999 881 999 119 725 3 [*], and
| if there's any cell service within range that it is
| physically capable of chatting with then the call will go
| through.
|
| It will kick other users off if that's necessary in order to
| allow the emergency call to happen.
|
| There's nothing to bill, so there's no billing systems (or
| even billing logic) to get in the way either.
|
| It's intended to always work.
|
| *: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWc3WY3fuZU
| anbotero wrote:
| I'm scared of this.
|
| In my country, at least on my Samsung Galaxy mobile device,
| they are sending Flash Messages for ads, even though I
| requested to be removed from their lists (and they
| complied... with calls and SMS).
|
| I already see them making use of this for ads until a big
| group of people complain.
|
| I'm tired, boss.
| Maxious wrote:
| > Emergency call handling tends to expose edge cases that
| normal calls never hit.
|
| Indeed. It now has been revealed even telcos were not doing
| real world tests
| https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-08/surprise-drill-for-te...
| and new laws were passed this month that they must make it
| possible for an independent university to do testing
| https://www.acma.gov.au/articles/2025-10/acma-strengthens-in...
| doener wrote:
| Dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45981608
| asdefghyk wrote:
| on a side related issue , there was much criticism of the 3g
| shutdown in Australia. including lack of preparation - google
| words - criticism of 3g shutdown in Australia
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