[HN Gopher] AMD continues to chip away at Intel's x86 market share
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       AMD continues to chip away at Intel's x86 market share
        
       Author : speckx
       Score  : 50 points
       Date   : 2025-11-15 20:35 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | snovymgodym wrote:
       | (On desktop systems)
        
         | cmovq wrote:
         | On data center as well. I think AMD rightly decided to focus on
         | larger chips for data center instead of consumer laptops where
         | margins are tiny in comparison and growth has been slow for a
         | few years.
        
           | jauntywundrkind wrote:
           | In general AMD seems to not want anything to do with down-
           | market parts.
           | 
           | They still have great laptop & desktop parts, in fact they're
           | essentially the same parts as servers (with less Core Complex
           | Die (CCD) chiplets and simpler IO Die)! Their embedded chips,
           | mobile chips are all the same chiplets too!!
           | 
           | And there's some APU parts that are more consumer focused,
           | which have been quite solid. And now Strix Halo, which were
           | it not for DDR5 prices shooting to the moon, would be
           | incredible prosumer APU.
           | 
           | Where AMD is just totally missing is low end. There's nothing
           | like the Intel N100/N97/N150, which is a super ragingly
           | popular chip for consumer appliances like NAS. I'm hoping
           | their Sound Wave design is real, materializes, offers
           | something a bit more affordable than their usual.
           | 
           | The news at the end of October was that their new low end
           | line up is going to be old Zen2 & Zen3 chips. That's mostly
           | fine, still an amazing chip, just not quite as fast &
           | efficient. But not a lot no small AMD parts.
           | https://wccftech.com/amd-prepares-rebadged-
           | zen-2-ryzen-10-an...
           | 
           | It's crazy how AMD has innovated by building far far less
           | designs than the past. There's not a bunch of different chips
           | designed for different price points, the whole range across
           | all markets (for cpus) is the same core, the same ~3 designs,
           | variously built out.
           | 
           | I do wish AMD would have a better low end story. The Steam
           | Deck is such a killer machine and no one else can make
           | anything with such a clear value, because no one else can buy
           | a bunch of slightly weird old chips for cheap, have to buy
           | much more expensive mainline chips. I really wish there were
           | some smaller interesting APUs available.
        
             | init2null wrote:
             | The Intel video encoding pipeline alone is worth going
             | Intel on the low end. Those low-power devices simply need
             | better transcoding support than AMD can currently provide.
        
               | jauntywundrkind wrote:
               | How so?
               | 
               | Almost every benchmark of I've seen of encoder
               | performance has shown Nvidia top, AMD not far behind, and
               | Intel trialing _significantly._ I think for one of the
               | codecs (h264, h265, av1) there 's an exception somewhere?
               | https://youtu.be/Ee6uWsANDTU
               | 
               | I'd love more/better info, but this YouTube review is at
               | least somewhat up to date. Doesn't focus on streaming,
               | but I was seeing similar rankings (albeit mostly older
               | reviews) for streaming.
        
             | iknowstuff wrote:
             | Damn I love the strix halo. the framework desktop idles at
             | 10W and has modern standby consuming less than 1W, but
             | fully connected so an xbox controller can wake it over
             | bluetooth etc.
             | 
             | My 3080 sffpc eats 70W idle and 400W under load.
             | 
             | Game performance is roughly the same from a normie point of
             | view.
        
               | rubatuga wrote:
               | How did you get Bluetooth wake working?!
        
               | zackify wrote:
               | I have a 7840u framework and it idles around 7-8w with
               | not much happening.
        
           | embedding-shape wrote:
           | I don't get the feeling that they've focused anywhere in
           | particular (and maybe rightly so), they're in everything from
           | low-powered consoles to high powered workstations and data
           | centers, and seemingly everywhere in-between those too.
        
       | brian-armstrong wrote:
       | Windows 10 EOL is probably helping to churn a lot of aging Intel
       | chips out here. I can't imagine anyone in the know is building a
       | new desktop with an Intel anything in it these days, either.
        
       | Neywiny wrote:
       | Goodness I still can't stand his articles. For me, my
       | understanding of the situation was that everything before maybe
       | Ryzen 2-3000 was like "meh, it's good enough". You can actually
       | see a bump in Q1 2017 when Ryzen first came out. I really hoped
       | to see annotated graphs, long term analysis, etc.
        
       | hereme888 wrote:
       | This could swing so hard with sudden geopolitical triggers. I
       | also see Intel positioning itself very strongly for its next
       | generation chips.
        
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