[HN Gopher] Linux on the Fujitsu Lifebook U729
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       Linux on the Fujitsu Lifebook U729
        
       Author : ibobev
       Score  : 152 points
       Date   : 2025-11-15 15:19 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
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       | maelito wrote:
       | Is there a good linux ARM laptop, fanless ?
        
         | imwally wrote:
         | I'd be interested in this as well. I want a quiet machine with
         | a decent display and a long battery life. Right now the MacBook
         | Air checks those boxes but I'd be very interested in an
         | alternative that I can throw Linux / OpenBSD on.
        
           | maelito wrote:
           | My Ryzen framework 13 is silent almost all the times, except
           | gaming and processing map tiles.
        
             | makeitdouble wrote:
             | While I personally want a fan and see it as price to pay
             | for better thermals, the disadvantages aren't just noise.
             | 
             | The most critical issue would be the fans still spinning to
             | cool down the machine when it was sent to sleep. That
             | creates the vicious cycle when bagged right after sleep,
             | where the fan try to lower the temp, but their running in a
             | closed environment warms the confined air, which pushes the
             | fan to run faster yet.
             | 
             | That's the recipe for a hot and dead battery when you take
             | it out of the bag.
             | 
             | I had that with MacBooks and Windows laptops alike.
        
         | cromka wrote:
         | Have a look at X1E devicetree in Linux kernel source (https://g
         | ithub.com/torvalds/linux/tree/master/arch/arm64/boo... all the
         | way to the bottom). There are some models that have a very
         | active development and an almost complete support by now, with
         | Thinkpad T14s probably the most active.
        
         | dmitrygr wrote:
         | MacBook Air M1. Find one with max ram (Facebook marketplace,
         | $400), have storage upgraded to 2TB (IYKYK), Linux support is
         | good.
        
           | cromka wrote:
           | Sorry, but no: https://asahilinux.org/docs/platform/feature-
           | support/m1/#tab...
           | 
           | Can't even drive an external display over the DP.
           | 
           | Linux support on Apple hardware is subpar compared to ARM
           | Thinkpads.
        
             | fulafel wrote:
             | I guess it's the physical HDMI port that's needed, as Minis
             | and the Pro laptops have working monitor HDMI monitor
             | support?
        
           | jack_tripper wrote:
           | How did you upgrade the soldered storage?
        
             | baq wrote:
             | Take it to a shop which cnc mills the original one off and
             | solders a compatible new one on. Maybe you can desolder the
             | old one, but why bother.
        
               | jack_tripper wrote:
               | Sounds easy. Why bother getting a laptop with replaceable
               | storage anyway?
        
               | baq wrote:
               | Apple doesn't sell one for any price, so if you want
               | Apple hardware, that's what you get. They objectively
               | make the best laptop hardware package unless you value
               | upgradeability over performance or build quality, which
               | most people also very objectively don't.
        
               | jack_tripper wrote:
               | Removable SSDs aren't just for upgradability but for
               | repairability. To ensure your shiny expensive laptop
               | doesn't become e-waste the minute your SSD NAND (which is
               | a wearable part) inevitably dies.
        
               | baq wrote:
               | I agree 100%, I'm just saying if you want Apple, you
               | can't have that regardless how much you're willing to pay
               | (though if you paid them $10B they'd probably bend and
               | design it this way, everybody has a number.)
        
             | dmitrygr wrote:
             | There's a guy who offers it for a very reasonable fee in
             | USA. I've used his services a few times with great success!
             | Email me, I wouldn't want to post someone else's contact
             | info publicly.
        
               | bigyabai wrote:
               | This is exhibit A in why Apple needs to adopt 2230 NVMe
               | drives and stop this ridiculous soldered flash storage
               | scam.
        
               | Zak wrote:
               | Apple doesn't need that. Apple is very happy selling
               | storage for 2-4x market rates.
        
         | haunter wrote:
         | You won't find anything like the Macbook Air M1 in build
         | quality, display, and battery life
         | 
         | Thinkpad X13s and T14s (both with Snapdragon) are the best
         | closest alternative.
        
           | makeitdouble wrote:
           | The M1 Air display being 2560x1600, it isn't that high of a
           | bar to cross.
           | 
           | Surface Pro are 2880x1920, Asus' pz13 series will be in the
           | same ballpark. Getting Linux on them will be a bit more of a
           | PITA, but you get the touchscreen and form factor to balance.
           | Build quality will be basically on par with Apple, battery
           | life should be taking a more serious hit (linux + smaller
           | battery from the start)
        
         | danans wrote:
         | A Lenovo Chromebook Plus 14 has a M2 equivalent ARM CPU/GPU
         | (Mediatek Kompanio Ultra/Mali Immortalis G925), and comes with
         | an arm64 Linux VM (Debian Bookworm) ready to go out of the box
         | that supports most regular Linux apps built for ARM (including
         | VSCode, Cursor, Claude code, etc). I use it for my software
         | development daily driver. Battery life is amazing as you'd
         | expect.
         | 
         | I've even run local LLMs and have gotten 30 tok/sec with
         | smaller Gemma models (had to install mesa vulkan drivers from
         | debian-backports for GPU support in the VM).
         | 
         | If ChromeOS's Linux VM doesn't suit you, you can replace
         | ChromeOS with Linux with a bit of work:
         | 
         | https://askubuntu.com/questions/1506894/how-to-install-ubunt...
         | 
         | Another Chromebook with the same setup is the Acer Chromebook
         | Plus Spin 514.
        
           | lukan wrote:
           | "If ChromeOS's Linux VM doesn't suit you, you can replace
           | ChromeOS with Linux with a bit of work:"
           | 
           | "Installing ubuntu on arm laptops is usually not easy, and
           | the GPU drivers are unavailable in most cases (so, the
           | performance is not great unless you use XFCE/LXDE/LxQt)"
           | 
           | I do like to use the GPU, though.
        
             | danans wrote:
             | The built-in Linux VM supports the GPU (you can enable it
             | in chrome:flags), and Linux GUI apps work fine.
        
             | ofalkaed wrote:
             | ChromeOS with the Linux VM is a surprisingly nice setup, I
             | bought a Thinkpad Duet 3 so I could use Linux apps on a
             | tablet and it seriously has me considering getting a
             | Chromebook for my next laptop. Everything integrates so
             | seamlessly and effortlessly that it does not even seem like
             | a VM other than having to start up the VM. The Chrome
             | keyboard has also really grown on me, even with the small
             | and very cheap keyboard of the Duet 3. Battery life and
             | performance is amazing and touch works completely as
             | expected. Not sure if I can actually make the leap and give
             | up Linux after 20 years of nothing but, but I am
             | considering it.
        
       | giancarlostoro wrote:
       | Whenever Microsoft makes me make an account and I cannot bypass
       | it I just make an throwaway with not so pleasant words in the
       | email. Followed by installing EndeavourOS.
        
         | mystifyingpoi wrote:
         | I really hope this still works forever. Unfortunately I
         | suspect, that one day they'll require a phone verification or
         | similar, like many services do nowadays.
        
       | jjice wrote:
       | Tossing Linux on used enterprise laptops is maybe the best bang
       | for your buck machine you can get. They're often time a great
       | value and within three years old. Used multiple Thinkpads and
       | Dells over the years that were fantastic and gotten sub $400.
       | 
       | Things I learned to look out for:
       | 
       | - Locked BIOS
       | 
       | - Look into the manufacturer's repairability reputation. I
       | replaced the entire keyboard on my ThinkPad X1 Carbon and it was
       | perfectly fine. It was a pain to get to, but no problems. On a
       | Dell Latitude, it refused to charge my non-OEM battery
       | replacement. My fault - I should've done some research.
       | 
       | In my experience, Dell and Lenovo have excellent Linux hardware
       | support. I don't know about other manufacturers, but I hope that
       | that's also the case now too.
        
         | Avamander wrote:
         | > Things I learned to look out for:
         | 
         | Don't buy any recent Intels. Some Intel ThinkPads have
         | accelerometers built-in just to throttle your PC to oblivion
         | when it moves. Basically unusable in any moving vehicle such as
         | a train. It's basically anti-portability baked-in.
         | 
         | When it doesn't throttle, it just has abysmal battery life
         | compared to AMD Ryzen ThinkPads of the same generation. Both
         | lose horribly to Apple's ARM chips though.
         | 
         | They also tend to have soldered WiFi modules, making it
         | impossible to upgrade later when newer and better WiFi
         | iterations come out. If that had been the case with a few of
         | the older models I still have, they would be unusable at this
         | point.
         | 
         | There are plenty of firmware bugs as well. For example plenty
         | of Lenovo (especially Intel as far as I've seen) models have
         | stuttery and freezing touchpads. Though the touchpads tend to
         | be horrible anyways.
         | 
         | I'd say the older (5+ years old) generations might have had
         | slightly better driver support or they're finally fixed at this
         | point. But there's _nothing_ I 'd spend my money on if I can
         | just as well install Asahi on an M-series laptop.
        
           | eptcyka wrote:
           | M1 and M2. But those are in an entirely different price
           | bracket. I'd go so far as to say those are not comparable.
        
             | doublepg23 wrote:
             | You can buy refurb M1s for $379 at Walmart.
        
               | bigyabai wrote:
               | Has a proprietary bootloader that Apple can lock in an
               | OTA update. Also doesn't support Linux as well as Intel
               | or AMD chipsets, unfortunately.
        
               | BolexNOLA wrote:
               | Last I heard asahi ran pretty well on M1/M2. Is that not
               | the case?
        
               | SirHumphrey wrote:
               | It runs well but battery life is quite a bit worse than
               | on macos.
        
               | throawayonthe wrote:
               | i don't think either of those is really true?
               | 
               | https://asahilinux.org/docs/platform/open-os-interop/
        
               | bigyabai wrote:
               | Literally the first step of the boot overview depends on
               | a proprietary and irreplaceable Apple-controlled blob:
               | iBoot2 loads the custom kernel, which is a build of m1n1
               | 
               | Apple decides whether or not m1n1 ever loads.
        
               | eptcyka wrote:
               | M1 mac minis or macbooks?
        
               | geoffpado wrote:
               | MacBook Air, though the $379 price does seem to be a
               | Black Friday deal: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Restored-
               | Apple-MacBook-Air-13-Lap...
        
           | gear54rus wrote:
           | > Some Intel ThinkPads have accelerometers built-in just to
           | throttle your PC to oblivion when it moves
           | 
           | Wtf? That sounds crazy, any sources?
        
             | ajsnigrutin wrote:
             | They don't want you to burn your testicles when keeping it
             | in your lap.
             | 
             | https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/pubs/x1e_p1_gen5/html/ht
             | m...
             | 
             | > The Cool and Quiet on lap feature helps cool down your
             | computer when it becomes hot. Any extended contact with
             | your body, even through clothing, could cause discomfort.
             | If you prefer using your computer on the lap, it is
             | recommended that you enable the Cool and Quiet on lap
             | feature in UEFI BIOS:
             | 
             | (it can be disabled on this laptop)
             | 
             | more: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1416567/disable-lap-
             | mode-on-...
        
               | VBprogrammer wrote:
               | Honestly, I wasn't to say this is ridiculous but I've got
               | a i7 13" laptop which I bought to do practically
               | everything (personal coding projects, a bit of gaming,
               | video editing, 3d modeling etc). I do find the heat of it
               | is quite uncomfortable after a short period of time on my
               | lap. I was thinking about getting a M series MacBook for
               | messing around on the couch and building a desktop for
               | many of those other tasks.
               | 
               | My work MacBook Pro on the other hand could do with the
               | opposite some times. Burn a bit of battery to heat up the
               | aluminium case please!
        
             | swinglock wrote:
             | This used to be a feature to protect spinning hard drives.
             | Why this would exist today and why it would throttle
             | anything is bizarre.
        
           | bitwize wrote:
           | ThinkPads used to have accelerometers to protect the hard
           | drives, so if you dropped the machine or treated it roughly,
           | it could park the drive, protecting it from data loss.
           | 
           | People used to write Linux utilities that read these
           | accelerometers, allowing for example to switch virtual
           | desktops by physically smacking the machine on either side.
        
             | xeonmc wrote:
             | That's horrifying.
        
               | throawayonthe wrote:
               | i think these also existed for macs with HDDs, i recall
               | seeing some very fun demos on youtube
        
               | wanderer2323 wrote:
               | Look, my setup works for me.
        
               | dcminter wrote:
               | ISWYDT https://xkcd.com/1172/
        
               | calvinmorrison wrote:
               | HDAPs
               | 
               | Hard drive active protection system parked the heads in
               | Ms, fast enough to handle a hard drop off a desk
        
           | ofalkaed wrote:
           | In my experience Intel and AMD Thinkpads of that era are
           | about the same for battery life but Intel always needs some
           | kernel parameters set. Where I notice the biggest difference
           | is Intel's integrated graphics gets you better battery life
           | over anything AMD if your GPU needs are modest enough to be
           | handled by Intel's integrated graphics
        
           | 60Vhipx7b4JL wrote:
           | Maybe what you are noticing is the "laptop on lap" detection?
           | Check the bios, there was a "cool when on lap detected" mode
           | on mine. Turn that off and re-test.
        
           | teo_zero wrote:
           | > there's nothing I'd spend my money on if I can just as well
           | install Asahi on an M-series laptop.
           | 
           | But such laptops don't work 100% with Asahi. Speakers and
           | mic, external displays, fingerprint reader, suspend are the
           | sore points I've read about, and shorter battery life
           | compared to when they run Apple's SO.
        
         | karczex wrote:
         | I'm using Linux on some dell precision and camera just don't
         | work. It's possible to install some custom kernel to make it
         | work, but the pain of maintaining it by myself in comparison to
         | IT department supported setup is a no go.
        
         | Teknomadix wrote:
         | My daily driver for several years now has been an AMD Ryzen 7
         | powered ThinkPad t495. $120 used. After upgrading the RAM to
         | 64gb it felt very snappy and usable. I run NixOS / Hyprland
         | with rofi/waybar. When an accident happened and the first t495
         | was damaged, I bought a second for $80, swapped the parts and
         | was back in business. I use it for coding, web research, and a
         | bit of CAD design via FreeCAD. Very happy with the hardware!
        
           | skydhash wrote:
           | I have a MBA M1 and it is everything you would wish in an
           | hardware feature wise (except the keyboard as I like lot of
           | travel). But the OS is abysmal, unless you like to use your
           | device with only apps. Anything else out of the straight path
           | is a pain. And the last years, it seems that the allowed path
           | is closer to mobile OS than a computer to do work.
           | 
           | So, my daily driver is an oldish dell latitude (8th gen
           | intel) running openbsd. Not for the faint of heart, but for a
           | tinkerer, it's a dream.
        
             | kroaton wrote:
             | You can install Linux on an M1/M2. It's not perfect, but it
             | does work pretty well.
        
           | skaragianis wrote:
           | Possibly 40gb, but not 64gb. The T495 has 8gb soldered and
           | one DDR4 slot. Concur great hardware, particularly the
           | keyboard.
        
         | as1mov wrote:
         | +1
         | 
         | This is my go to way of buying a new laptop. I've gone through
         | 2 machines in the last 8 years (Dell 7270 and 7330). Both
         | bought for <$400. Linux works ootb, though I haven't tried any
         | of the more obscure distros.
         | 
         | Though now manufacturers are doubling down on soldered
         | components, so buying a cheap machine and upgrading the
         | components yourself is not really possible :(
        
           | jll29 wrote:
           | Yep, same experience here, very good results with DELL
           | Latitude E7240, E7260 and similar. Very rugged and Linux
           | works like a breeze - on eBay from $179 (just checked again).
           | 
           | One is well advised to upgrade them to 16 GB RAM and put in a
           | 1 TB SSD, and possibly a new battery. My better half wanted
           | one of those again after I gifted her a brand new MacBook
           | Air, so used she got to the DELL and Ubuntu running on it.
        
         | dcminter wrote:
         | I swapped the keyboard on my wife's X1 and man, they are so
         | fiddly to get to these days. It used to be a 2 minute job but I
         | think this took me nearly 2 hours! I had to remove practically
         | everything to get to it.
         | 
         | Still happy with the result and I agree that 2nd hand business
         | machines give great bang-for-buck. I adore my beater Dell
         | Latitude for example.
        
         | bArray wrote:
         | Can back this. Many years ago I purchased a Dell Latitude from
         | eBay. After messing around with a 3D printer, there was a short
         | of mains voltage onto the USB line, frying the laptop and
         | tripping the house electrics. I contacted Dell asking for a
         | schematic of the PCBs thinking that I had blown some
         | components, but they informed me that the laptop was still
         | under warranty thanks to the original business purchaser (by
         | just a few weeks).
         | 
         | They shipped a box and allowed me to swap out a hard drive for
         | a spare (I had study data on there), I then used the box to
         | ship the laptop to them. A few weeks later the laptop gets
         | shipped back with a parts replacement list, which was
         | essentially every single PCB in the laptop and I asked them to
         | replace the keyboard too because one key was sticking. Brand
         | new parts in a slightly cracked chassis.
         | 
         | If Dell still has customer service like that, it's double
         | thumbs up from me.
         | 
         | I'm currently using a Lenovo laptop which has been solid so
         | far. I do want my next laptop to be open to repairability (even
         | if I have to create it myself).
        
           | ssl-3 wrote:
           | Dell customer service is whatever someone wants to pay for.
           | 
           | I bought a new Dell laptop 20-ish years ago along with
           | whatever the super-duper coverage was called at that time
           | (Complete Care, maybe?). IIRC, it only excluded deliberate
           | damage (and "hammer marks" was used as an example).
           | 
           | But they had no trouble sending me parts. Power brick soaked
           | in a flood? No big deal; a new one is on the way. Dropped a
           | screwdriver on the screen at work? They sent a whole person
           | over to replace it.
           | 
           | It was very expensive coverage -- it cost more by itself than
           | the used/refurb laptops we're discussing. It was sold
           | separately. It did not, by my estimation around that time,
           | ultimately pay for itself.
           | 
           | But if you score it for "free" with a used machine, then
           | sure! Bargain!
           | 
           | (A person can check the warranty/service status of an
           | unmolested Dell machine here:
           | https://www.dell.com/support/contractservices/en-us )
        
           | nullbyte808 wrote:
           | I really don't care for repairability as I average maybe 2
           | years before getting a new laptop.
        
             | thisisabore wrote:
             | In terms of strain on natural resources, that's insane.
        
               | bbarnett wrote:
               | Only if they throw it away. If someone else uses it,
               | what's the issue?
               | 
               | Or do you not want people of less means, having used
               | laptops?
        
         | defanor wrote:
         | > In my experience, Dell and Lenovo have excellent Linux
         | hardware support.
         | 
         | I have tried just one cheap Dell laptop, Vostro 3515, which
         | works mostly fine with Linux (it came with Ubuntu, I have
         | installed Debian), but the touchpad becomes unreponsive
         | sometimes (probably after a sleep), and at some point it
         | refused to charge, which required an UEFI firmware update to
         | fix, which in turn required Windows (I had to use Windows PE)
         | to install, as the direct update (from the UEFI itself) was
         | failing, and there is no Linux option.
         | 
         | Could have been worse, but now considering a Lenovo ThinkPad as
         | a future replacement.
        
         | storus wrote:
         | With the recent Intel layoffs many Linux drivers are no longer
         | maintained and as a consequence some older laptops don't boot
         | anymore.
        
           | worthless-trash wrote:
           | Did upstream disable hardware.. I didnt see the memo for
           | disabling anything boot related.
           | 
           | Can you tell me what you found breaking as I will have to
           | deal with that.
        
       | gchamonlive wrote:
       | If you want portability on something premium, I can't recommend
       | enough the Lenovo Yoga Slim 7. Specwise I've got the one with the
       | Core ultra 5 125h. It also has an option with the 155h, but it
       | battery and thermals can take a hit that I don't think it's worth
       | it. It's got 16gb spread across 8x2gb modules and 512gb of ssd,
       | both soldered, both extremely fast.
       | 
       | Build quality that rivals MacBooks, but with superior keyboard,
       | very nice battery life and an oled screen on top of it.
       | 
       | The problem I had with the oled screen is that I thought it
       | oversaturate reds out of the box on Linux, which I corrected
       | using hyprshade:
       | https://github.com/gchamon/archie/blob/main/hypr/shaders/vib....
       | I am looking for a better solution because the filters get picked
       | on screenshots and washes out the colours. I need to find an ICE
       | profile or export one from Windows.
       | 
       | The camera also behaves a bit weirdly. It has noticeable quality
       | difference when using chromium and other browsers, the latter
       | with perceptible quality degradation.
       | 
       | Other than that, a very good mobile linux driver, snappy, cool,
       | quiet, charges fast and a joy to use.
        
         | aruggirello wrote:
         | > it oversaturate reds out of the box on Linux, which I
         | corrected using hyprshade
         | 
         | Another option would be Redshift, which has a nice widget
         | (Redshift Control plasmoid) for KDE Plasma. It doesn't affect
         | grabbed screenshots or stuff like simplescreenrecorder, BTW
        
           | gchamonlive wrote:
           | Will give it a try, thanks!
        
         | user_7832 wrote:
         | Do you know what the oled screen resolution is on your device?
         | One of my family members has what I believe is the same laptop,
         | and while I appreciate the build quality, the OLED clearly
         | isn't RGB (in its subpixel arrangement - or some other such
         | major aspect), because the 1080p screen looks so bad for text I
         | initially thought it was broken.
        
           | Nab443 wrote:
           | Oled pc screens have a terrible reputation for text. Some
           | more than others, but it seems it's better to stick to lcd if
           | you happen to read or write a lot.
        
           | gchamonlive wrote:
           | 1920x1200
           | 
           | It's awesome for text though. The only issue I found was the
           | overblown reds.
        
         | vachina wrote:
         | 16gigs soldered seems like obsolete on arrival for a windows
         | PC.
         | 
         | I briefly owned a Slim 7 32gigs but sold it because it felt too
         | heavy for a 14incher. Got an M1 instead.
        
           | gchamonlive wrote:
           | Windows itself is obsolete. My yoga is pretty slick and
           | light.
        
         | cryzinger wrote:
         | I have an old Yoga that I've considered throwing Linux onto...
         | are there any particular distros you've used that play nice
         | with the touchscreen?
        
           | fwipsy wrote:
           | Default Ubuntu seems pretty touch-friendly these days with
           | large icons etc.
        
           | gchamonlive wrote:
           | The one I have doesn't have a touchscreen and I don't have
           | any workflow that would benefit from it, so I can't help you
           | there, sorry
        
       | rcarmo wrote:
       | If you have an old Intel MacBook Air, they work beautifully with
       | Linux as well: https://taoofmac.com/space/blog/2025/11/05/2200
        
         | jebarker wrote:
         | I did this with the 11", which was one of the greatest sized
         | laptops for travel IMO, just had to replace the explody looking
         | battery!
        
           | incanus77 wrote:
           | Same, I have a 2013. It's such a good size.
        
           | w0m wrote:
           | I'm down to ~10m of battery life on my i7 11" - any pointers
           | on battery replacement? Laptop worked great otherwwise
           | (retired it last year due to battery life)
        
             | bxparks wrote:
             | I tried eBay like 4 times. But they were all fake or
             | defective. At least one of them was dead on arrival.
             | 
             | I finally bought one from iFixit.com. Far more expensive
             | than eBay, but the battery actually worked great for about
             | a year. Then about a month after the 1-year warranty
             | expired, it degraded noticeably (maybe to 80%) with only
             | about 100-200 charge cycles. Even iFixIt cannot source a
             | battery as good as the original Apple.
             | 
             | Right now, it's at 65% capacity after 584 charge cycles,
             | after 4.5 years of service. I will probably go back to
             | iFixIt. At least I'll get one year of full capacity from
             | them, instead of the fake or DOA ones from eBay.
        
           | jll29 wrote:
           | 11" is a great size - especiall if one has to work on a plane
           | occasionally (economy class - not your own jet).
        
           | haunter wrote:
           | This is what I want to do as well but the 8GB RAM version was
           | CTO, eveywhere I look people are only selling the 4GB models
        
         | bxparks wrote:
         | The last time I tried this in 2022, I encountered a bunch of
         | rough edges. I tried Ubuntu or Mint on a MBA 11 (2013 or 2015
         | models). Maybe Linux has gotten better since then?
         | 
         | For example, the fan did not work out of the box. I had to
         | install something called 'macfanctld'.
         | 
         | Sleep did not work, it would wake up as soon as it went to
         | sleep. I had to install something called a 'suspend-
         | fix.service' hack.
         | 
         | Brightness control was flaky. It would always wake up at the
         | lowest brightness setting. Disabling auto-dimming caused it to
         | wake up at the highest brightness.
        
       | marcodiego wrote:
       | > install Windows 11. This came with the laptop. And the
       | installation makes installing Linux feel easy: I had to do so
       | many weird tricks to avoid having to create an account with
       | Microsoft during the installation.
       | 
       | The way secure boot evolved is disgusting. Specially because, at
       | the time it was becoming popular, people we're warned that was
       | more a tool of control than for security. Having to install a
       | proprietary OS to install another should be forbidden.
        
         | mystifyingpoi wrote:
         | But what happened doesn't make sense even. Why would upgrading
         | the BIOS suddenly restore the option to toggle Secure Boot? If
         | the previous owner (assuming, some company) disabled this, why
         | would it be so trivial (comparatively) to work around it?
        
           | makeitdouble wrote:
           | If the company fully managed the previous windows install,
           | they'd have control on the upgrades to the BIOS as well and
           | could just block them. These restrictions disappear with
           | standard windows install.
        
           | jeroenhd wrote:
           | I've seen laptops stuck in weird state. Most likely, Fujitsu
           | didn't bother to test turning off secure boot once they
           | received the BIOS they bought, and fixed the toggle in a
           | firmware update.
           | 
           | Linux boots fine using standard secure boot, so if it refused
           | it's either NixOS using an unsigned bootloader (which is
           | surprising to me) or secure boot just being bugged to hell.
           | 
           | Another option is that NixOS uses secure boot but uses a
           | signature that's _too_ recent: one of the secure boot CAs is
           | expiring soon, and an old BIOS may not carry the new key if
           | NixOS opts to sign their bootloader with the latest key. This
           | issue doesn 't just affect Linux, certain Windows images
           | won't boot on older devices either if this mismatch happens.
           | 
           | My bet is on NVRAM getting into a weird state or a buggy
           | BIOS. That's the most obvious thing that would get fixed by
           | updating the BIOS.
        
       | varispeed wrote:
       | In my opinion, touching anything made by Fujitsu is not ethical.
       | 
       | See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Post_Office_scandal
        
         | michaelg7x wrote:
         | This was my first thought as well.
        
         | 2b3a51 wrote:
         | The OA was describing the use of a _refurbished_ laptop made by
         | Fujitsu Japan (so 50% owned by Lenovo since 2017). No profit
         | goes to Fujitsu UK (a subsidiary). And the Horizon system has a
         | complex history [1].
         | 
         | But still, perhaps no, simply in solidarity.
         | 
         | [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon_accounting_system
        
         | forinti wrote:
         | Yes, Fujitsu did some nasty things, but half the world would
         | have reasons not to do business with the UK.
         | 
         | Plus, the Post Office Scandal had a lot of input from the PO
         | itself and the British legal system.
         | 
         | It was a very British failure overall.
        
         | rwyinuse wrote:
         | I would say buying used Fujitsu from a third party seller is
         | still better than letting it become e-waste. It's not like
         | Fujitsu is getting any of that money.
        
       | UncleSlacky wrote:
       | TL;DR: When in doubt, update the BIOS before doing anything else.
        
         | qrobit wrote:
         | Unless there is some vulnerability in the current version that
         | you want to take advantage of. See e.g. mediatek exploit to
         | unlock bootloaders without authorization by OEM or hacking PS4.
        
       | internet2000 wrote:
       | > But the thing that got me, in all honesty, was the brand.
       | "Fujitsu laptop" sounds like colour in a William Gibson novel:
       | "crawling into the avionics bay, Case took out a battered Fujitsu
       | refurb, and stuck a JTAG port in the flight computer--".
       | 
       | It's kind of hard to take this opinion seriously after that.
        
         | Ezhik wrote:
         | This website is called Hacker News.
        
         | ireflect wrote:
         | Suit yourself. I think a little whimsy is refreshing.
        
         | bitwize wrote:
         | I actually find this rather interesting.
         | 
         | Gibson knew dick about computers in 1984, which makes his early
         | cyberpunk works more interesting because so much of the
         | technical stuff is pure imagination and guesswork. He peppered
         | his 1980s prose with Japanese-sounding brand names because he
         | assumed that the Japanese would dominate computing the way they
         | dominated electronics for things people like William Gibson do
         | --things like listening to music. And it didn't quite work out
         | that way, because Japanese computer manufacturers tailored
         | their output to peculiar Japanese needs (specifically, needing
         | high resolution displays and lots of memory in order to draw
         | kanji well and needing Japanese language support in the OS)
         | rather than hewing to emerging industry standards. This kept
         | prices of NEC, Epson, and Sharp gear high, and allowed American
         | manufacturers like IBM, Dell, HP, and especially Apple to get a
         | significant foothold in the emerging industry worldwide.
         | Toshiba emerged as an early leader in laptops, but laptops
         | wouldn't really find their market niche until the mid-90s or
         | so. So these days, you go to like Den-Den Town in Osaka, and
         | you will find Dells and HPs for sale, and of course all the
         | pretty Japanese girls are all about their Apple gear, just like
         | here. Even so, Japanese buyers tend to prefer Japanese brands,
         | followed by other Asian brands, and Western brands (except for
         | Apple) third. So I can totally see a Japanese executive rocking
         | a Fujitsu laptop, but I haven't seen Westerners in possession
         | of one.
        
         | wuhhh wrote:
         | I came here to quote that section for the opposite reason, what
         | a lovely, romantic reason to be drawn to a laptop; made me
         | smile :)
        
       | sunneyx wrote:
       | It's kinda old though
        
         | the_plus_one wrote:
         | Is that necessarily a bad thing? I have older laptops than the
         | U729 that still see some use. If you're not locally compiling a
         | big codebase, running some AI/LLM thing, playing GPU-intensive
         | games, etc., you really don't need much.
        
       | chem83 wrote:
       | For something portable with a dGPU, I recommend the Asus ProArt
       | px13. Works very well with Linux, including NixOS with the right
       | config, with the community asusctl and supergfxctl. AMD, OLED
       | screen, nVidia 4070 (4060 in the US, maybe we'll get 50xx next
       | year). Downsides: the keyboard is not amazing, it comes with
       | MediaTek WiFi, but is replaceable, and the SSD is 2230, which
       | limits capacity. I haven't been able to fine-tune touchpad
       | sensitivity in Wayland and I do get some screen flickering
       | despite fiddling with some boot params and being on 6.17.x. Fewer
       | constraints if you're willing to go 14-inch with the Zephyrus.
        
       | javaunsafe2019 wrote:
       | I also went this route but was disappointed by: - bad speakers -
       | poor battery life - inferior screen quality
       | 
       | Nowadays where you can get a MacBook Air 16gb m2 for around
       | 600EUR this would be my pick if I'd have to find a new machine
       | for travel and casual use.
        
       | goranmoomin wrote:
       | This article just pushed me over to retry Linux on my laptop, and
       | I've been spending the last 2 hours on a Linux desktop. I would
       | love to use it as my main driver (will try the next week), but it
       | still feels like a thousand paper cuts and realize why I was
       | stuck on macOS for the last 10 years. Ugh :(
        
         | bartvk wrote:
         | What kind of hardware did you install it on? And what hardware
         | wasn't supported? Or was it the software that caused the
         | papercuts?
        
         | bornfreddy wrote:
         | Curious what the cuts are? I'm forced to use MBP at $JOB and it
         | sucks compared to Linux at home. Maybe I'm just used to Linux,
         | don't know? But I love the fact that I can configure it the way
         | I like, especially all the keyboard shortcuts. On MacOS this
         | has proven to be difficult.
        
       | lpcvoid wrote:
       | Lenovo Z13 Gen 2 with 64GB RAM and AMD 7840u is what I daily
       | drive. It's 13.3 Inch, premium build with glas and aluminum. It's
       | my favorite laptop by a wide margin, and runs Linux perfectly.
       | Unfortunately Lenovo stopped producing the Z13/Z16, no idea what
       | I will do afterwards.
        
         | kombine wrote:
         | I run T14s Gen 3 AMD, it's a perfect laptop and it got an
         | update this year.
        
       | nullbyte808 wrote:
       | Dear god its ugly.
        
       | killerstorm wrote:
       | ~12 years ago I installed Linux on Fujitsu UH572.
       | 
       | As an "ultrabook" it came with 16GB of fast SSD which could be
       | used as a cache via some Windows-specific Intel feature, while
       | main storage was a slower spinning disk.
       | 
       | As Linux did not support cache feature, I thought I can just
       | format it as ext4 and use as a storage for things which can
       | benefit from more iops, e.g. running DB tests. And as SSD
       | technology was still rather new at that time, I started with
       | running some IO benchmarks.
       | 
       | Well, it survived formatting into ext4 and few minutes of that IO
       | benchmark, then it became permanently unresponsive.
       | 
       | My guess is that wear-leveling algorithm was designed
       | specifically for the FS originally had (some version of FAT?),
       | and different FS caused it to corrupt some internal data
       | structure, so SSD's controller firmware went into panic on each
       | boot.
       | 
       | Unfortunately, this added few minutes delay to boot as Linux
       | tried to communicate with unresponsive SSD controller, but
       | otherwise laptop worked fine...
        
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